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Support Liara T'Soni for ME3 - Squadmate and LI

Débuté par Nozybidaj , févr. 18 2010 08:42

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scmadsen
Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:13

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I did some research and Doctor Chakwas can die if you screw up badly enough.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:15

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scmadsen wrote...

I did some research and Doctor Chakwas can die if you screw up badly enough.

If either do not send escort or send disloyal escort, yes.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:29

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General Stubbs wrote...
That cannot be a case of bad
animation, you either speak a specific way or you don't. That is also
why I think BioWare meant for Liara's animations to be the way they are
and they are not a case of bad animation.


But the facial
animation has 'nothing' to do with the voice actress' performance.  The
audio is recorded and then sent off to one of their artists who poses
the joints of the face to match the timing of the voice clip.  It
doesn't matter if she has specific inflections in her voice when she
speaks because that isn't what drives the animation, it's the artist
manipulating the facial skeletal rig who has to put all the emotion and
subtleties into the face, and by default, facial rigs are completely
neutral with no emotion.

I'm not saying one way or the other if
it's bad animation or something we're reading too far into or if
BioWare just made it that way intentionally (or had to cut the scene
apart due to the comic), I'm just saying that bad animation is one of
several possibilities that we're discussing.

#9179
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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:33

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I posted about my loathing for the Prima Guide before and how it totally ignores every import decision, interaction, and mission except for four tiny text boxes. But anyway, not sure how many people saw this or not yet, they have a personality quiz on the website and question #4 seems to refer to our favorite asari.

http://www.primagame...-quiz/quiz.html

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:41

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Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...
That cannot be a case of bad
animation, you either speak a specific way or you don't. That is also
why I think BioWare meant for Liara's animations to be the way they are
and they are not a case of bad animation.


But the facial
animation has 'nothing' to do with the voice actress' performance.  The
audio is recorded and then sent off to one of their artists who poses
the joints of the face to match the timing of the voice clip.  It
doesn't matter if she has specific inflections in her voice when she
speaks because that isn't what drives the animation, it's the artist
manipulating the facial skeletal rig who has to put all the emotion and
subtleties into the face, and by default, facial rigs are completely
neutral with no emotion.

I'm not saying one way or the other if
it's bad animation or something we're reading too far into or if
BioWare just made it that way intentionally (or had to cut the scene
apart due to the comic), I'm just saying that bad animation is one of
several possibilities that we're discussing.

What I meant was, that it seems kind of hard for the emotions in Liara's voice and her facial movements and body language to be a coincidence or for her voice to be full of emotion, but her animations to be because of bad animation.
I am just of the opinion that since her voice was full of emotion, why wouldn't they create her facial movements and body language purposely as well?

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:43

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

I just wanted to say before I leave....that all of you should know I am just a "Jokester" not a Troll and I won't do it again.

I'm sorry----LesEnfantsTerrible--------scmadse--------General Stubbs---------morrie23--------JPfanner------JaylaClark------Unata-----justinnstuff------bjdbwea---------Mighty_BOB_cnc -------HomicidialFrog

I am posting this because you all deserve an apology.....

c-ya and good night

No harm done, I know you weren't trolling. :)
Good night.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:49

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

I just wanted to say before I leave....that all of you should know I am just a "Jokester" not a Troll and I won't do it again.

I'm sorry----LesEnfantsTerrible--------scmadse--------General Stubbs---------morrie23--------JPfanner------JaylaClark------Unata-----justinnstuff------bjdbwea---------Mighty_BOB_cnc -------HomicidialFrog

I am posting this because you all deserve an apology.....

c-ya and good night


Don't sweat it ^_^

Have a good night!

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:49

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

I just wanted to say before I leave....that all of you should know I am just a "Jokester" not a Troll and I won't do it again.

I'm sorry----LesEnfantsTerrible--------scmadse--------General Stubbs---------morrie23--------JPfanner------JaylaClark------Unata-----justinnstuff------bjdbwea---------Mighty_BOB_cnc -------HomicidialFrog

I am posting this because you all deserve an apology.....

c-ya and good night


Just noticed I was included.

Apology accepted, Gamer, and come back anytime you want to post about the BBG :D.

#9184
scmadsen
Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:53

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Seeing as Liara can't die, and Shepard can die again at the end of ME2. How likely is it, that we could play as Liara in ME3? I mean, are they going to not allow an import of a dead Shepard? Are they going to make Shepard just be alive, again? Another two years and four billion to build another Shepard?

Modifié par scmadsen, 26 mars 2010 - 03:54 .

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:55

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Wow, I filled my sig space exactly. I got lucky picking the dimensions on this last sig I made.

@schmad - The devs said you can't import a save where Shepard dies.

Modifié par justinnstuff, 26 mars 2010 - 04:00 .

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 03:58

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JPfanner wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...
I kind of think it is a combination of all four, they had to edit the actual scene for the comic and the DLC (an expansion would follow most likely if there really will be one). That is all because of EA and their marketing guys.

And yes Liara had to be saved for ME3.
I am in agreement with everyone, the ME2 storyline sucked ass, but because they decided to go the suicide route, Liara had to stay on Illium for the duration of the main story. If she had been able to come, she could have died in the crappy storyline and not been around for ME3 (or had a drastically reduced part).

I think everyone that posts or even reads this thread is optimistic.  Even if not everyone is quite as expressive about it as other people.  Otherwise, I'm sure they could easily find something more constructive to do with their time. 
I just really want Bioware to say something; we all loved Liara, everyone seems to like ME1, all of us bought ME2, most of either have the comics or plan to get the compilation or at least follow them.  I don't think that it is too unreasonable to want to see some of that goodwill reciprocated in some way after two months.

Yeah, it can make you wonder with BioWare not saying anything.
But I always try to remember it is probably because of the legalities of the whole comic book/DLC situation.

I try to use another case (tens of billions of dollars involved) of people not being informed to remind the that BioWare is probably in that situation.
In this case I am referring to, basically, the lawyers, commitee members, and other parties involved cannot tell the shareholders anything at all about what is going on (although one of the lawyers may have just screwed some people around and played with the price of the stock by letting some information slip that was taken out of context), I like to think it is kind of the same situation.
BioWare cannot tell us anything because they are legally bound not to, makes no sense to us, but it makes perfect sense to their legal department (which got their information from marketing).
Also, anything devs say in interviews has been reviewed and cut down by their marketing department, then their lawyers, so we always get the bare minimum of the information.
Makes me feel better to think about it like that.

We do indeed love The Beautiful Blue Goddess, it is good to be optimistic (pessimism makes everyone depressed), I still assume we will not get everything we want in the DLC (that can be unrealistic to think so), but I am confident we will get most of what we want.

Modifié par General Stubbs, 26 mars 2010 - 04:01 .

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 04:09

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 Ughghg I can't believe it's so late already.
Oh well, Liara pic before I go to bed.
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:wub::wub::wub:

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 04:18

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Thanks for that Liara picture Justin (she is so cute), I'm gonna head off to bed as well.

Good night fellow Liara lovers.
Imma go dream about The Beautiful Blue Goddess. :D:wub:<3:wub:

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 04:21

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General Stubbs wrote...

Thanks for that Liara picture Justin (she is so cute), I'm gonna head off to bed as well.

Good night fellow Liara lovers.
Imma go dream about The Beautiful Blue Goddess. :D:wub:<3:wub:


G'night General!

I should go, get my fill of Liara pics on DA, and turn in myself.  (Just so I can get a decent dream about her myself for a change.  Last one I had was last week, and we were changing the tires on the Mako :mellow:.)

#9190
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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 04:34

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JaylaClark wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

Thanks for that Liara picture Justin (she is so cute), I'm gonna head off to bed as well.

Good night fellow Liara lovers.
Imma go dream about The Beautiful Blue Goddess. :D:wub:<3:wub:


G'night General!

I should go, get my fill of Liara pics on DA, and turn in myself.  (Just so I can get a decent dream about her myself for a change.  Last one I had was last week, and we were changing the tires on the Mako :mellow:.)


Well that's a odd thing to dream about with Liara, I can see if you were giving the Mako a wash, then wash each other Image IPBImage IPB

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 04:57

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Unata wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

Thanks for that Liara picture Justin (she is so cute), I'm gonna head off to bed as well.

Good night fellow Liara lovers.
Imma go dream about The Beautiful Blue Goddess. :D:wub:<3:wub:


G'night General!

I should go, get my fill of Liara pics on DA, and turn in myself.  (Just so I can get a decent dream about her myself for a change.  Last one I had was last week, and we were changing the tires on the Mako :mellow:.)


Well that's a odd thing to dream about with Liara, I can see if you were giving the Mako a wash, then wash each other Image IPBImage IPB


... thank you, Unata, you've made my night :P

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 05:13

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Ok, I'm at the end here and Sovereign just popped into Citadel space with all his Geth ships and it struck me as funny, first off I imagined the look on folks faces seeing that mass-o-badnessImage IPB, then it occurrs to me that alone would make me believe Shepard.Image IPB
The Council has to know the truth and is simply covering it all up so not to cause galatic panic, they can't possibly be that stupid.

But, then again it is a game, I suppose since they have interstellar travel and all them other advanced things, common sense went out the window.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 05:34

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What's a Reaper? There are no Reapers, there's never been any Reapers. You're just crazy.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 05:37

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scmadsen wrote...

What's a Reaper? There are no Reapers, there's never been any Reapers. You're just crazy.


Before I finally leave for the night, first off :D:lol::D, and secondly... I wonder if there's a topic for the Council's denial of the Reaper threat?  Because it's pretty flimsy, their justification.  I think they're verbally rationalizing it because mentally they know that there's no point in acknowledging it, because they can't do squat about it.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 05:39

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Just putting it up because ...

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Hope that's okay.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 05:44

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JaylaClark wrote...

scmadsen wrote...

What's a Reaper? There are no Reapers, there's never been any Reapers. You're just crazy.


Before I finally leave for the night, first off :D:lol::D, and secondly... I wonder if there's a topic for the Council's denial of the Reaper threat?  Because it's pretty flimsy, their justification.  I think they're verbally rationalizing it because mentally they know that there's no point in acknowledging it, because they can't do squat about it.


Hell why not, everything else under the stars is on the forums Image IPB and your right, they can't do squat, but I am going out on a limb here and assume Shepard can and will do something about it Image IPB

btw, I love this emoticon --> Image IPB

Finished my Renegade, well least the backdrop was red this time Image IPB

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 05:46

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Now I have the wonderful task of sorting through all my Liara screenshots for those hidden looks of hers Image IPB

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:21

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I know this is a bit of an odd request, but does anyone know where I can find an OBJ of Liara, maybe with textures? I know there are ways to rip models from games with programs. Never tried myself though.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:26

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Shadowcat101 wrote...

I know this is a bit of an odd request, but does anyone know where I can find an OBJ of Liara, maybe with textures? I know there are ways to rip models from games with programs. Never tried myself though.


Hate to ask, what's a OBJ? is that a file extension?

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:33

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JamieCOTC wrote...

Just putting it up because ...
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Hope that's okay.


Great pic, I hope that we get a warm, passionate smooch at some point in Liara's DLC. Hell, I'd be happy with a warm embrace, just as long as we can comfort Liara and help her feel happy again.

Liara.:wub:
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