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[morrie23]

Peter Klasson wrote...

Didn't know that it was the Shadow
Broker who found Shepards body and Liara stole it from SB, cause SB was
going to give/sell it to Collectors.

Yup, if it weren't for Liara, Shep would now be part of the human Reapers left pinkie.

Modifié par morrie23, 26 mars 2010 - 11:43 .

[Asheer_Khan]

Funny that i never asked Timmy about Lili even if i have such option... but my Force senses told me that i might not like what he will tell me so i skipped that part .

And when he ask me if my Shep quit past relationship my reply was "Not your damn business"... apparently another indication that Timmy was planning to cut Shep out of her past life but that attempt end whit pretty nice fireworks in Galactic Core:O:O when i blown up  that base in 1000000000 tiny pieces:lol:.

And if he will try to threat Lili again... Reapers will be last thing whit he could be worried:devil:

[morrie23]

Indeed Les, we're definitely being kept in the dark in the game. TIMs modus operandi is manipulation, he does it to Shep in game. I expect something to be in the comic that explains the relationship between TIM/Cerberus and Liara. I believe it will be pretty much: 'SB is now after you Liara, we can protect you, work for us against the SB and let Shep get on with his job when he returns. Or you'll never see Shep again because you'll be dead.'



TIM probably lies to Shep about Liara to keep him isolated and ensure he does as he's told.

[Asheer_Khan]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

If that is the case, then how difficult must it be for Liara to hold back her emotions and love for Shepard when she first sees Shep again, after being told by TIM not to fraternize with Shepard anymore?

Liara's there, the person she's sacrificed so much for and loves more than anything in the world, and she's forced to act distant from said person. It must be killing her. Poor Liara.

That's why we NEEEEEEED!!!! to comfort her and make sure that everything is fine here :wub:.
She done what done must be to bring Shepard back and fot that i can never ever hate Lili:wub:<3:wub:.

[Asheer_Khan]

Hey Timmy Guess who comes for dinner :devil:




And here Lili  in Happy days .

[Noxis6]

morrie23 wrote...

Indeed Les, we're definitely being kept in the dark in the game. TIMs modus operandi is manipulation, he does it to Shep in game. I expect something to be in the comic that explains the relationship between TIM/Cerberus and Liara. I believe it will be pretty much: 'SB is now after you Liara, we can protect you, work for us against the SB and let Shep get on with his job when he returns. Or you'll never see Shep again because you'll be dead.'

TIM probably lies to Shep about Liara to keep him isolated and ensure he does as he's told.

Well in any case there has to be someone holding a protective hand over Liara because at the end of the comic she is in kind of a bad situation Cerberus will not ask two times politely to give them the body and you can pretty much sure about the fact that the Shadow Broker will come after her because she ruined his once in a lifetime deal.
I guess that will put other faction on her trail to should the SB put a bounty out,if we are realistic without a protector in the background she should be dead by now.
TIM of course would make the most sense,hes quite able to do that,as seen he was able to keep Mirandas sister safe from her father for a long time and Mirandas father seems to be either a very powerful corporate figure or criminal.
The only question is what he gains from protecting Liara and setting her up on Illium,I put some thoughts into it and irc TIM says he has his problems in contending with the SB in the Terminus systems so you could assume he uses Liara to gain a better foothold,who would ever suspect an alien working for a pro human organisation.
Of course a yet unnamed third faction could also be stuck somewhere in the mess though I'm not a fan of that

[morrie23]

Well said Noxis. It makes some sense that TIM would us Liara as a tool to gain more info on the SB, she has a reason to hate the SB and as it is said in game, people respect her so she could get the job done.

Busy Friday justin? I believe today will be a POETS day for me (P*ss Off Early, Tomorrow's Saturday).

Modifié par morrie23, 26 mars 2010 - 01:19 .

[Unata]

Good Morning fellow Liara fans!
Couple pics from my (yet another) ME1 playthrough.

Liara when she thought Shepard was squished


Liara when she saw Shepard wasn't squished (even Wrex looks happy)


While I was going through all *blush* 89 screenshots just from lastnights playthrough session, Liara was in the Colossus armor, this song kept creeping into my mind

[Unata]

Noxis6 wrote...

morrie23 wrote...

Indeed Les, we're definitely being kept in the dark in the game. TIMs modus operandi is manipulation, he does it to Shep in game. I expect something to be in the comic that explains the relationship between TIM/Cerberus and Liara. I believe it will be pretty much: 'SB is now after you Liara, we can protect you, work for us against the SB and let Shep get on with his job when he returns. Or you'll never see Shep again because you'll be dead.'

TIM probably lies to Shep about Liara to keep him isolated and ensure he does as he's told.

Well in any case there has to be someone holding a protective hand over Liara because at the end of the comic she is in kind of a bad situation Cerberus will not ask two times politely to give them the body and you can pretty much sure about the fact that the Shadow Broker will come after her because she ruined his once in a lifetime deal.
I guess that will put other faction on her trail to should the SB put a bounty out,if we are realistic without a protector in the background she should be dead by now.
TIM of course would make the most sense,hes quite able to do that,as seen he was able to keep Mirandas sister safe from her father for a long time and Mirandas father seems to be either a very powerful corporate figure or criminal.
The only question is what he gains from protecting Liara and setting her up on Illium,I put some thoughts into it and irc TIM says he has his problems in contending with the SB in the Terminus systems so you could assume he uses Liara to gain a better foothold,who would ever suspect an alien working for a pro human organisation.
Of course a yet unnamed third faction could also be stuck somewhere in the mess though I'm not a fan of that

On this strain of thought could this 3rd faction you speak of be the Council? granded they haven't been to bright in the past but, they are conservative or have been shown to be, I'm still of the opinion they are ALOT more well aware of things then they let on, you can't run a galaxy wide governing body being idiots for a couple millenia, atleast I have hopes they are more aware, after all it was the Asari that started it, and they aren't stupid.

[jlb524]

Awwww...I love those pics Unata!!

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

Oof. 7:20AM. I think I'll go to sleep for the night now... (He says as the sun is already above the eastern horizon.)



I have discovered that I still don't like drawing characters. I'll put up with it for Lili, Garrus, and FemSheppie though.

[Noxis6]

General Stubbs wrote...

I guess the  problems with Cerberus protecting Liara would be three things.
One, they apparently aren't doing that great of job if they are, because the Observer was Liara secretary.
Two, everyone knows who Liara is on Illium, no matter whow powerful your organization is, it would be almost impossible to protect her against everyone.
Lastly, compared the the SB's empire, TIM and Cerberus are little schoolchildren. It would be like trying to take every Mafia in the world down with just one police force from a small city.
No one has ever been able to even get close to taking down the SB, so how is TIM suddenly able to after just several decades and barely any operatives compared to other spec-op organizations?

Well noone says the protection is perfect and you can apply this to every other faction you can make up to protect her.
That everyone knows Liara on Illium can we be so sure thats how she started out,just because she is Benezias daughter,Illium may be a Asari dominated world but its not part of council space so how it would depend how much they care about council politics there.
Personally I see Illium as kind of a crossover between a tourist trap and Noveria.
Hm well if the SB dwarfs TIM then Liara should be nothing compared to him,how should she be able to do it after just two years,frankly her line about having the SB on the run gets more and more ridiculess the more you think about it.
Also imo TIM and SB are pretty much even I think since in this game its not about having the biggest army but the most ressourcefull one

On the council as sad as it sounds but I think they are for all intents and purposes idiots in the game,besides why would they employ someone of a "lesser" race like Feron if they could send a spectre given they would think it is important

Modifié par Noxis6, 26 mars 2010 - 02:29 .

[jlb524]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Don't know if this has been discussed but they've added text to the #4 cover.  www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-520/Mass-Effect-Redemption-4

"To find a hero... another must be lost."

I think this confirms my theory...

There's only two main characters in the comic... Liara and Feron.

In no way shape or form could Feron be considered a hero...

So Liara is lost ...

And the Liara in ME2 is a clone/robot!

Thanks for that!  I think Liara becoming 'lost' is more symbolic than her dying and having a clone/robot take her place

[Unata]

Noxis6 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I guess the  problems with Cerberus protecting Liara would be three things.
One, they apparently aren't doing that great of job if they are, because the Observer was Liara secretary.
Two, everyone knows who Liara is on Illium, no matter whow powerful your organization is, it would be almost impossible to protect her against everyone.
Lastly, compared the the SB's empire, TIM and Cerberus are little schoolchildren. It would be like trying to take every Mafia in the world down with just one police force from a small city.
No one has ever been able to even get close to taking down the SB, so how is TIM suddenly able to after just several decades and barely any operatives compared to other spec-op organizations?

Well noone says the protection is perfect and you can apply this to every other faction you can make up to protect her.
That everyone knows Liara on Illium can we be so sure thats how she started out,just because she is Benezias daughter,Illium may be a Asari dominated world but its not part of council space so how it would depend how much they care about council politics there.
Personally I see Illium as kind of a crossover between a tourist trap and Noveria.
Hm well if the SB dwarfs TIM then Liara should be nothing compared to him,how should she be able to do it after just two years,frankly her line about having the SB on the run gets more and more ridiculess the more you think about it.
Also imo TIM and SB are pretty much even I think since in this game its not about having the biggest army but the most ressourcefull one

On the council as sad as it sounds but I think they are for all intents and purposes idiots in the game,besides why would they employ someone of a "lesser" race like Feron if they could send a spectre given they would think it is important

heh don't let the Drell supporters hear you say that, Honestly though, why wouldn't they have Feron on the payroll? they are as sneaky as Salarians are suppose to be but tougher, Spectres are to open or visual as it were, Feron is/was as told in the comic working for SB or has taken jobs from SB that is, why can't the Council have a Drell in their covert ops section? planted to keep tabs on SB.

[Unata]

jlb524 wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

Don't know if this has been discussed but they've added text to the #4 cover.  www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-520/Mass-Effect-Redemption-4

"To find a hero... another must be lost."

I think this confirms my theory...

There's only two main characters in the comic... Liara and Feron.

In no way shape or form could Feron be considered a hero...

So Liara is lost ...

And the Liara in ME2 is a clone/robot!

Thanks for that!  I think Liara becoming 'lost' is more symbolic than her dying and having a clone/robot take her place

Bioware is to transparent to me on that, I believe they mean Feron, Liara says he saved her life, that is "Heroic" to some and if he is lost then my worries about him messing with Liara are calmed

[Unata]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Thanks for those screenshots, Unata! I do love your Liara ones!

I love the look of joy and relief on Liara's face when she sees that Shepard hasn't been killed. It's so heartwarming!

BW should patch that ending scene. If Liara is your LI, then you get an extended version in which Shep rushes over to her and gives her a big kiss.

I agree on the extended version, thank the Goddess we have good imaginations