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[elitextrem3]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I do think that there may be tiered endings to the Liara romance, with the best and happiest of those if you obviously remained faithful and loyal to Liara throughout the entire trilogy. You'll then get slightly worser endings with her depending on if you cheated in ME2 or not, or if you possibly started a new romance with Liara in ME3, if you're a non-import.

Can't wait to see what the very best ending and epilogue to the Liara romance will be. You could even choose it through dialogue choices with Liara in-game about future plans. Tell Liara you want to settle down after the Reaper threat has been eradicated, and it'll end with you and Liara as bondmates with little ShepAsari children. Tell her you still want to right a few wrongs, and it'll show Shepard and Liara continuing to fight the good fight, possibly with the pair of them as Spectres. I'm very excited!

I hope you're right but after seeing how things ended with Morrigan in DA: O, I can't help but being a little worried. Unless of course they fix that with another expansion or something. If all romances in ME3 end in happiness and love then so be it, I'm more than happy with it but at the same time it will be a little unrealistic.

I want at least some drama and some hard choices alone the way, that will really make us think hard about what to do next. Well, who am I kidding if I have to sacrifice the entire crew just for Liara I will. I'll do anything for the Beautiful Blue Goddess.

Modifié par elitextrem3, 26 mars 2010 - 04:17 .

[scmadsen]

The Collectors are after Shepard all throughout ME2, we also have to assume that the Shadow Broker knows Liara is important to Shepard, thus it stands to reason, the one way to insure you find Shepard is by keeping Liara around, waiting for Shepard to show up. That explains the Observer, because then the Shadow Broker can tell the Collectors where Shepard is.

Not even the Shadow Broker, could get to the station Shepard is being rebuilt on. If that was the case, the Collectors would of showed up and bug-stunned everyone and taken Shepard. We never was told who Willson was working for, it could of been nearly anyone. It seems that most likely it was the Shadow Broker, and Willson was going to take Shepard someplace and be picked up. Willson sounds like he slowly became jealous and greedy, only perhaps going to the Shadow Broker at the very end. So the only other way the Shadow Broker would of had to find Shepard till that point, would of been thru Liara.

The Shadow Broker screwed over the Collectors, not the kind of people you want to have pissed off at you, no matter who you are. So letting Liara stay alive and undermine him/her/it seems like a good idea when you put it in context. The Shadow Broker has to figure that once debts are paid to the Collectors, then Liara can be taken out. Any damage done could then be repaired.

Modifié par scmadsen, 26 mars 2010 - 04:11 .

[JPfanner]

screwoffreg wrote...

Could Feron be a Council SPECTRE? That would seem ridiculous considering the Council doesn't seem to know or care about Shepard's death situation.

I am still betting on Cerberus, which would hardly be a shocking surprise. Having a spy to watch Liara would make sense.

I think we have all explored every possible hypothesis about what could be happening with the "SHOCK SURPRISE" so unless it is something out of left field like Liara is really Shiala in disguise it hopefully won't be too earthshattering.

I seriously doubt he's a Spectre, in ME1 and even in the novel Revelations it is pretty well established that is considered a stepping stone or limited to Council races (asari, salarian, turian).
I personally lean towards him being a Council agent myself.  He would have no redeeming personal qualities if he willingly worked for Cerberus given their reputation towards aliens and agenda.

[Marcin K]

elitextrem3 wrote...

Hi guys, I wanted to ask you all a question. The other say there was a thread around asking for a happy ending for all the love interest in both games. I personally want some differences in how things play out and I will like a couple of maybe bitter sweet endings.
 
So how do you guys think the Liara romance storyline will play out? Will it end in a happy note, will Bioware give us a choice or will they pull out some crazy **** and end things in a sad way. I personally want the Liara romance to end in a happy note. Maybe getting married or having kids, maybe she and Sheppard just cuddling together I don’t know. Yet at the same time the Liara romance as well as the Jack and Tali romance could very well end in a sad way. There are a lot of ways that Bioware could handle those romances.
 
Since Liara is my favorite character, a sad ending will completely depressed me. It already happened to me with DA: O. Morrigan was my favorite character and when she left my PC at the end I was stunned and shocked. I probably spent that entire day, just trying to figure out what the hell happened and I must have replayed the scene in the castle like 10 times just trying to get another outcome. It was a horrible day all around.
 
So how do you guys think the romance with the Beautiful Blue Goddess will be handled by Bioware? Will it have a happy ending or will it have sad ending.

it has to be happy one
and  a pic as a bonus:

Modifié par Marcin R, 26 mars 2010 - 04:16 .

[JPfanner]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Yeah, they probably are referring to Feron, though the choice of the term "hero" is puzzling somewhat. So far, he's been completely untrustworthy and is a bit of a flat character. It's odd to call him a "hero".

I do like him though, he's such a goof! I hope we get the chance to rescue him, Shepard owes him one for helping Liara save your life.

I think it does refer to Feron too.  You have to kind of take everything in the comics within the context of the comics.  So Liara and Feron are the two heroes we've been following, with Liara's motives and character being obvious, and Feron being all obscured and seeming to work some angle all the time.  If he sacrifices himself so that Liara can get away with Shepard's body and the Shadow Broker's data then that is definitely heroic.  That's also another reason I have trouble thinking he works for Cerberus.  There's nothing heroic or redeeming about them at all.

[bjdbwea]

You probably know that Liara stands in her office, staring out of the window before you first meet her. But did you know she shakes her head in a constant manner, looking quite sad in the process?

Modifié par bjdbwea, 26 mars 2010 - 04:23 .

[JamieCOTC]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Don't know if this has been discussed but they've added text to the #4 cover.  www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-520/Mass-Effect-Redemption-4

"To find a hero... another must be lost."

I think this confirms my theory...

There's only two main characters in the comic... Liara and Feron.

In no way shape or form could Feron be considered a hero...

So Liara is lost ...

And the Liara in ME2 is a clone/robot!

I don't know.  Never underestimate the ability for a comic company to stretch the meaning of a word or image.  In a lot of ways they never have fully shaken their bait and switch pulp roots.  You know, like pulp novels from the 50s w/ the girl being chased by a robot on the cover and there isn’t even a girl or robot in the entire book.  They may not be as bad as all that these days, but I suspect if someone dies or is captured it will be Feron and he is the “hero”.  So even if Feron is doing the right thing for the wrong reason that makes him an anti-hero, but still a hero (at least in the eyes of a comic compnay trying to sell books, anyway).  Also, the word “lost” has meaning meanings.  So Liara could have "lost" her way ... which she has. 

[JPfanner]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Considering that he has also worked for the Shadow Broker, I don't think Feron really cares about the morals of the people or organisations he works for, just that he gets paid. I think Feron working for Cerberus is the greatest likelihood. TIM wouldn't be against hiring him either, considering that he's not really anti-alien but pro-human, and has no qualms about using aliens as tools to further his goals.

There's a reason why TIM decided to seek out Liara and manipulate her into working with Cerberus. He sees her as a useful asset in recovering Shepard's body.

Sure, but undercover vice cops also seem to be drug dealers.  The Council has been ruling a multi-species galactic government for almost 3 millenia.  I just have a hard time thinking that they wouldn't have undercover agents within organizations like the Shadow Brokers.
We'll find out for sure what is going on (hopefully) here in a bit though.

[Noxis6]

scmadsen wrote...

The Collectors are after Shepard all throughout ME2, we also have to assume that the Shadow Broker knows Liara is important to Shepard, thus it stands to reason, the one way to insure you find Shepard is by keeping Liara around, waiting for Shepard to show up. That explains the Observer, because then the Shadow Broker can tell the Collectors where Shepard is.

Not even the Shadow Broker, could get to the station Shepard is being rebuilt on. If that was the case, the Collectors would of showed up and bug-stunned everyone and taken Shepard. We never was told who Willson was working for, it could of been nearly anyone. It seems that most likely it was the Shadow Broker, and Willson was going to take Shepard someplace and be picked up. Willson sounds like he slowly became jealous and greedy, only perhaps going to the Shadow Broker at the very end. So the only other way the Shadow Broker would of had to find Shepard till that point, would of been thru Liara.

The Shadow Broker screwed over the Collectors, not the kind of people you want to have pissed off at you, no matter who you are. So letting Liara stay alive and undermine him/her/it seems like a good idea when you put it in context. The Shadow Broker has to figure that once debts are paid to the Collectors, then Liara can be taken out. Any damage done could then be repaired.

Actually the Shadow Broker doesnt need to keep an eye on Liara to get to Shepard he has enough agents on Omega and the Citadell,but again we are left in the dark if the SB still has any interest in Shepard at all.
Though I agree he could have bribed Wilson to get Shepard or his/her corpse for that matter back,that also a part thats never really explained.

[bjdbwea]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Huh, didn't know this. How do you get a clear shot of her, though? I can only see her from a distance, and you can't look at her through the sniper rifle's scope.

You can use cheats to go anywhere. I did wonder why the developers implemented that behaviour of hers even though you normally can't see it. Maybe another small left-over from the real scene?

[scmadsen]

The Shadow Broker has no way of knowing where Shepard will go. Omega isn't really a place worth going. The only real reason to go there, is for Mordin. How would the Shadow Broker know we even need him. As for the Citadel, well it's a big enough place, if Shepard really wanted to, could be in and out without anyone but the Council knowing. Specters can do that kind of thing. And unless the Shadow Broker is a Keeper, who would know.

I really feel Liara is the one sure bet, even more so, if Liara is the LI. Besides, Liara is pretty much the canon love interest.

Modifié par scmadsen, 26 mars 2010 - 04:54 .

[Noxis6]

scmadsen wrote...

The Shadow Broker has no way of knowing where Shepard will go. Omega isn't really a place worth going. The only real reason to go there, is for Mordin. How would the Shadow Broker know we even need him. As for the Citadel, well it's a big enough place, if Shepard really wanted to, could be in and out without anyone but the Council knowing. Specters can do that kind of thing. And unless the Shadow Broker is a Keeper, who would know.

I really feel Liara is the one sure bet, even more so, if Liara is the LI.

Well unless Wilson should really proof to be on the SBs payroll,I doubt he knows Shepard is even alive even the Shadow Broker would hardly believe that it is possible to reanimate a corpse in such a worse condition.
Its just Omega is propably the first place Shepard goes so this is the time the SB should take note and try to make his move,but it never happens thats again the problem with the whole thing the game gives you nothing the SBs agents never try to capture Shepard.
As for the Citadell I'm pretty sure the SBs network covers the whole thing I wouldnt be suprised if he had informants in C-sec or programs to monitor the stations data network

[scmadsen]

My random thought of the day about Liara:

I listened to the end credits song from ME1 again, and to me it really sounds like Shepard thinking about Liara. It makes me wonder if they had planned everything all along, having to do with her and her change in ME2. I mean, it fits almost perfectly. It also works in reverse, as Liara needs Shepard just as much.

Modifié par scmadsen, 26 mars 2010 - 05:05 .

[scmadsen]

It really isn't fair that we can not just take Liara in our arms and hug her tight, let her know we couldn't let her go either, and then whisper that everything will be alright.

[Unata]

yorkj86 wrote...

I'd like to see a screenshot of Liara looking out her window. Doing a quick search for a way to toggle flycam, I found nothing.

Loading a save file where I hadn't yet talked to Liara, I walked around the main floor of the area to try to see Liara standing at her window.  I found a good spot for visibility and she wasn't at the window.

This is the very first time you come to Illium, not speaking to anyone yet, Liara is at the window



The animation is almost as if she is talking to someone but I could see no one else around her

[jlb524]

Unata wrote...


The animation is almost as if she is talking to someone but I could see no one else around her

Liara's talking to that human she was threatening when you walk in, I believe.   He's just a holo, so I guess it's hard to see him from that viewpoint.

[Unata]

here's a better shot of it.

[bjdbwea]

The holo is not there at that moment. As I said, she stands there, looking out of the window, sometimes shaking her head.

PC cheats can be found here. Have a look if you want, but unfortunately there's nothing more to find out.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 26 mars 2010 - 05:38 .