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Support Liara T'Soni for ME3 - Squadmate and LI

Débuté par Nozybidaj , févr. 18 2010 08:42

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 05:46

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Looks quite sad, seeing her standing there, desperately awaiting the return of the person she loves.



Could you imagine how Liara's heart starts thumping when she sees Shepard walk around the corner for the first time?



Oh Goddess! Shepard, you're back. I've missed you so much, and I love you. But do you still love me? Do you hate me? What am I going to say to you?

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 05:52

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Hi all--------I'm still trying to change my Brakes in the rain.....figured I'd stop by and post this..Image IPB

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:02

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bjdbwea wrote...

The holo is not there at that moment. As I said, she stands there, looking out of the window, sometimes shaking her head.

PC cheats can be found here. Have a look if you want, but unfortunately there's nothing more to find out.

The hologram isn't an NPC though so it doesn't have to exist on the level like you have with being able to see TIM on the cave wall at the baby reaper, or the M-44 in that one Hammerhead mission.  It's just a scripted video effect that plays when you open that door, Liara says her stuff, and then it disappears.  I think she's just standing there in a holding pattern waiting to interact with it when you open the door.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:02

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You know, I wonder to myself if Bioware really knows just how volatile a position they've put themselves in if the ending(s) for ME are not "Happy or Satisfactory" for most players?



I can imagine seeing the news if ending(s) are not-so-happy/satisfactory.



NEWS FLASH!

Bioware, the makers of video games has been vaporized! (news at 11)



or

NEWS FLASH!

Masses march on Bioware with sythes, sickles and pitchforks!

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:05

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@Unata......

I know thats what I'm so worried about, I hope that doesn't happen

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:16

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JPfanner wrote...

The hologram isn't an NPC though so it doesn't have to exist on the level like you have with being able to see TIM on the cave wall at the baby reaper, or the M-44 in that one Hammerhead mission.  It's just a scripted video effect that plays when you open that door, Liara says her stuff, and then it disappears.  I think she's just standing there in a holding pattern waiting to interact with it when you open the door.


That's what I've suspected. Liara's placement at the window is so that it triggers the cutscene when you first enter her office.

Still, no harm in imagining that Liara is waiting for Shepard's return, depserately pining for the moment when she can see her lover again. :happy:

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:21

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Still doesn't explain why the developers attached that additional animation though. Not that it would matter.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:21

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Oh definitely, it is a very sweet thing to imagine her looking out that window with as much anticipation to see Shepard as Shepard has to see her. Maybe hoping to catch a glimpse of them as they come from the spaceport. Stuff like that is the only thing keeping me going, even if it isn't "real".

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:30

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

Hi all--------I'm still trying to change my Brakes in the rain.....figured I'd stop by and post this..Image IPB


Haha, I like it :D

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:31

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We can then imagine that Nyxeris patches that hologram through to Liara's office as she's waiting and, eager to finish the discussion so that she doesn't miss Shepard, Liara gets irritated and ends up threatening the man to get him to go away. Unbeknowst the her, Shepard has already entered the room and is standing right behind her.



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Shepard!

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:35

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@LesEnfantsTerribles......good picture....she looks surprised
 
@justinstuff......thanks

[Edit]-------all who what to see some funny pics I uploaded here it is:: HERE

Modifié par GamerFSS86, 26 mars 2010 - 06:37 .

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:39

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I'm trying to figure out if Liara's skin-color actually changed between ME1 and ME2, or if it's just the lighting in her office. In ME1, her skin color was a rich blue. Now it's a light, powder blue.

It's kind of important - this is for a commissioned picture.

Modifié par yorkj86, 26 mars 2010 - 06:40 .

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:46

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I wouldn't be surprised if Nyxeris knew Shepard was just about there and patched an irate customer call through intentionally. She most definitely intentionally didn't page/intercom Liara about Shepard walking through that door and she had to know Liara was in the middle of dealing with some deadbeat.

I actually thought it was cool that Liara dealt with Nyxeris herself instead of being all hysterical and needing Shepard to dash back and save her from her evil secretary. Liara most definitely likes to cuddle, but she doesn't need coddling.

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JPfanner wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if Nyxeris knew Shepard was just about there and patched an irate customer call through intentionally. She most definitely intentionally didn't page/intercom Liara about Shepard walking through that door and she had to know Liara was in the middle of dealing with some deadbeat.
I actually thought it was cool that Liara dealt with Nyxeris herself instead of being all hysterical and needing Shepard to dash back and save her from her evil secretary. Liara most definitely likes to cuddle, but she doesn't need coddling.


Yup. I thought it was lame in ME1 when you're romancing her as maleshep how he kept trying to say "I'll take care of you." She just kept reminding him she wasn't looking for that, but more for companionship. Liara definitely holds her own.:wub:

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yorkj86 wrote...

I'm trying to figure out if Liara's skin-color actually changed between ME1 and ME2, or if it's just the lighting in her office. In ME1, her skin color was a rich blue. Now it's a light, powder blue.

It's kind of important - this is for a commissioned picture.


I think it's the light from the normandy on ME1 was a little blue and the light of Ilium is kinda white-ish color, that could make a huge impact on an image.....I don't think her skin changed but I could be wrong

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yorkj86 wrote...

I'm trying to figure out if Liara's skin-color actually changed between ME1 and ME2, or if it's just the lighting in her office. In ME1, her skin color was a rich blue. Now it's a light, powder blue.

It's kind of important - this is for a commissioned picture.


It's definitely somewhat lighter, but the lighting when Liara is seated at her desk makes her skintone look even more lighter than when she's standing up.

Look at the difference between her colour in the pic I posted, and my avatar. They've also dulled her vibrant blue eyes to a duller grey. It's sad, but I can't help but think it's intentional due to all of her emotional torment and stress she's suffered.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:52

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

I'm trying to figure out if Liara's skin-color actually changed between ME1 and ME2, or if it's just the lighting in her office. In ME1, her skin color was a rich blue. Now it's a light, powder blue.

It's kind of important - this is for a commissioned picture.


It's definitely somewhat lighter, but the lighting when Liara is seated at her desk makes her skintone look even more lighter than when she's standing up.

Look at the difference between her colour in the pic I posted, and my avatar. They've also dulled her vibrant blue eyes to a duller grey. It's sad, but I can't help but think it's intentional due to all of her emotional torment and stress she's suffered.


I think it was done from an artistic viewpoint to portray that very idea. I just hope our happy ending brings her back to normal.

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:wub::wub::wub:

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 06:56

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yorkj86 wrote...



I'm trying to figure out if Liara's skin-color actually changed between ME1 and ME2, or if it's just the lighting in her office. In ME1, her skin color was a rich blue. Now it's a light, powder blue.



It's kind of important - this is for a commissioned picture.


I think it is the lighting myself, it was really weird when I was using the editor to change my skin tone to asari blue. I was getting blue, grey, or chalky peach depending on where I stood in her office.

I was going to try and use that Texmod thingy to capture her face texture and then compare them but haven't gotten around to doing that yet as I am a procrastinator.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 07:04

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Yeah, if you have ever seen someone that has felt as much guilt as Liara has and as many negative emotions as she has, they look unhealthy. Like I said, the whole scene seems to rely on the player thinking about it, you have to have your full attention on Liara (we always do, lol) to be able to see what BioWare's intentions were for the reunion (as the comic screwed things up for an emotional reunion. Go Beautiful Blue Goddess DLC!).
I would assume massive stress might effect the Asari differently (our hair goes grey and white) and might dull their skin tone. It makes me even more sad that Liara has gone through so much hell that she isn't her beautiful blue colour anymore.
Maybe a bit of it is the lighting, but the beautiful blue she was in ME1 is completely different from her colour in ME2, so I can't help think that some of it might have been done purposely.

I am sure that she will be able to go back her original beautiful blue once Shepard comforts her.
She just needs to get rid of the stress, I am sure it will talk a while to help her throughout the DLC. She needs to know that Shepard loves her no matter what she had to do and she is not judging her and loves her with all her heart.
I love the Lovely Liara so much!!! :wub::wub::wub:<3<3<3:wub::wub::wub:

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 07:11

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well when Liara stood up in ME2 when she was telling you how she gave Shep body over to TIM she was a beautiful Blue again if I remember correctly....someone has already posted the pic I'm talkin about in here...I go find it

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 07:13

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here it is.........LesEnfantsTerribles posted this earlier

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 07:14

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I've actually disabled DoF effects for now, that seems to be the only way to get rid of the odd lighting and especially the horrible shadows in some areas. Disadvantage being that the game doesn't look as good in other parts. Oh well... Anyway, her blue is still lighter than in ME 1, but doesn't look as grey anymore.

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 07:19

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But Still Liara has Captured my heart......
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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 07:28

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The one that is most saddening is definitely Liara's eyes. Her pupils are smaller, and her previous vibrant blue is now a duller grey. It's heartbreaking, and really drives home how much she's suffered in the two years Shep's been gone.

Modifié par LesEnfantsTerribles, 26 mars 2010 - 07:28 .

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Posté 26 mars 2010 - 07:29

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

But Still Liara has Captured my heart......
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and that is one of the reasons we should and will stay optimistic!:)
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