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[IndigoWolfe]

One thing I would also like to see in Mass 3; Liara Romance Achievement! 



Version 1.0, I'm not entirely satisfied.

The only way to get this achievement would be romance Liara in Mass Effect 1 and remain loyal through all three games.

Although, it's more likely that if there were a Paramour Loyalty achievement, there would only be one that was unlocked by any of the original three. But I can dream, right?

I'm on the fence on what it would be called, although I'm leaning towards "Singularity". Just not something like "Across The Stars", 'way too gushy.

[Driveninhifi]

yorkj86 wrote...

I really don't think about it too much.  I blame the awkwardness of the reunion on Bioware's writers.  Their writers forced their own hands in tying ME2 in to a comic series, and in having originally planned the beginning of the game differently.  Finally, their writers were willing to do whatever was necessary to the characters of Ashley, Kaiden and Liara to keep them out of ME2, even if it meant a total rewrite or making their characters out to be complete jerks.

Right, but now her motivations make no sense. If she's doing it for Shepard, then Shepard's return must have a huge impact on that. Which the game completely ignores.

[screwoffreg]

Miranda rebuilt Shepard, I guess. That counts for something.

[Unata]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

One thing I would also like to see in Mass 3; Liara Romance Achievement! 



Version 1.0, I'm not entirely satisfied.

The only way to get this achievement would be romance Liara in Mass Effect 1 and remain loyal through all three games.

Although, it's more likely that if there were a Paramour Loyalty achievement, there would only be one that was unlocked by any of the original three. But I can dream, right?

I'm on the fence on what it would be called, although I'm leaning towards "Singularity". Just not something like "Across The Stars", 'way too gushy.

All or nothing

[Unata]

screwoffreg wrote...

Miranda rebuilt Shepard, I guess. That counts for something.

Well truthfully Wilson did, Miranda supervised

[IndigoWolfe]

Oh yeah, and one of my favorites.

[JaylaClark]

justinnstuff wrote...

Unata wrote...

I wonder if they are letting the cat out of the bag a bit with the comment on that comic preview page


"Liara T'Soni's search for Commander Shepard's abductors comes to an end, but what other shocking discoveries will she make when she finds them? The comics debut of modern sci-fi's greatest epic holds surprises right up to the very end!
With far-reaching repercussions for the Mass Effect saga, this tale of friendship and loyalty in the darkest corners of the galaxy closes with an issue sure to thrill fans new and old!"

*sigh* makes yer heart pitter patter some eh?

Sure does 

This, plus york's picture, is what it's all about.  (I'm not just talking about our favorite emoticon for our LiLi :wub:... though that is also what it's all about. <long beat> .)

But this is what I love about the way that Liara has been portrayed (no sarcasm, just separating what I love from what I don't for a second).  They've decided to make canon (as far as the word can be applied to the franchise) the fact that ... LiLi loves Shepard, stronger than a sister, and goes out of her way to help her even after she's gone.  This, when they don't even have a canon gender, though my friend tells me that at least one novel and somewhere in Redemption they call Shepard 'him', but if so it's got to be bad editing ...  (*looks around to see if that Fenix guy from last night is quietly lurking to start the debate about how Sheploo is 'canon' as opposed to 'default'*)

That's what makes me think that either a) the reunion scene was an accidental oversight -- that kiss being an attempt to tell with gestures what they couldn't tell with words, maybe, because Ali was off recording for FF XIII? though if so, it sadly reeks of fail; or that Casey and Mac realized after the fact how badly it was going to play, and made sure to make our LiLi look so much more devoted in the comic book, as well as potentially in DLC or the expansion.

I think there is one problem with their portrayal, come to think of it -- they are trying to force a star-crossed-lovers angle on us that don't particularly want it, so they had to do a much better job than they did to flesh out the situation, and convince us that it made any sense.  I think we're still waiting on that, and we can't possibly be totally satisfied by the finale of Redemption, there's not enough time and space.

As an aside, by the way ... I think I figured out pretty clearly why Liara can be the most powerful character in the game... she's the only character I've seen who can max out every skill except one, and biotic powers are pretty fearsome at the higher levels.  (I too have had situations where she's cleared the room, called 'Clear!', and made the squad coffee before anyone else unholstered their assault rifles.)

[tamperous]

justinnstuff wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Les is probably gonna go rip them a new one 

Hahaha, nah Justin.

I can actually see what people dislike about the comics. I know they're not perfect. And some of the character images are a little odd to say the least. Particularly Aria's expression when she's looking down at Liara. Just looks creepy!

Yeah. I don't know if the hired drawing artist knows much about the characters. There are a lot of scenes in the comic that are like that.

The artist is South American, most of his work for Dark Horse seems to have been Star Wars related stuff. The art isn't terrible but its very inconsistent, like he's rushing his work. Lack of familiarity with the characters and the style of the universe would contribute to needing to rush. 

Back in December on the CBR website there was an interview with him where he shows his process of drawing.  THe art is not the best comic book art you'll see but its what you'd expect for a pilot project to test a licensed properties sales potential. It's been the coloring has been bad compared to both ME1's shiny future and ME2's bright neon and deep shadows in game.

[Unata]

JaylaClark wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Unata wrote...

*snip*
With far-reaching repercussions for the Mass Effect saga, this tale of friendship and loyalty in the darkest corners of the galaxy closes with an issue sure to thrill fans new and old!"

*sigh* makes yer heart pitter patter some eh?

Sure does 

This, plus york's picture, is what it's all about.  (I'm not just talking about our favorite emoticon for our LiLi :wub:... though that is also what it's all about. .)

*snip*

As an aside, by the way ... I think I figured out pretty clearly why Liara can be the most powerful character in the game... she's the only character I've seen who can max out every skill except one, and biotic powers are pretty fearsome at the higher levels.  (I too have had situations where she's cleared the room, called 'Clear!', and made the squad coffee before anyone else unholstered their assault rifles.)

LOL She is I tell you, she'd give Samara, Morinth, Jack a run for their money, hell she could probably take all 3 on (ok maybe a little exaggeration) but she is one tough and beautiful blue woman

[bjdbwea]

justinnstuff wrote...

I don't think they got much more than Liara in ME2. All of the original LI's got sidelined. You see Ash/Kaidan on Horizon and you get an email. That's it.

I was talking more about the ME 2 companions, but as said before, it doesn't make sense to go into details about them in this thread. That said, I like Ashley very much too, and while her behaviour in ME 2 is unrealistic (lazy writing again), at least her part is more satisfying. Even the fact that you don't see her again, is better than being able to sit in Liara's office with nothing to say. But... on the other hand, we can get more screenshots. It's something at least, I guess.

Edit: And you can talk to Joker about Ash and Kaidan. That's nice too.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 26 mars 2010 - 10:51 .

[Unata]

justinnstuff wrote...

 No problem, I have a blast with photo editing for some reason, it's becoming a hobby 

Is there a way to browse your stuff?

[JaylaClark]

justinnstuff wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

I think there is one problem with their portrayal, come to think of it -- they are trying to force a star-crossed-lovers angle on us that don't particularly want it, so they had to do a much better job than they did to flesh out the situation, and convince us that it made any sense.  I think we're still waiting on that, and we can't possibly be totally satisfied by the finale of Redemption, there's not enough time and space.

Yeah, I think that's how it's going to work out. One issue to go, but the story is far from over. We've got some future DLC on the way, and I think that will be the turning point. If not, we have to wait clear until ME3 for some real closure. I just want a decent acknowledgement of the relationship in the upcoming DLC. I really want to take out the SB.

We're due that much, at least.  I still think it's not either or for us, we should get DLC and a large Liara role in the expansion.  (Fears brought on by Awakenings notwithstanding, my Orlesian flower isn't built in to be central to the plot like Liara, and even Ash/Kaidan, are.)

JaylaClark wrote...

As an aside, by the way ... I think I figured out pretty clearly why Liara can be the most powerful character in the game... she's the only character I've seen who can max out every skill except one, and biotic powers are pretty fearsome at the higher levels.  (I too have had situations where she's cleared the room, called 'Clear!', and made the squad coffee before anyone else unholstered their assault rifles.)

This. She was always in my squad in ME1. It was great how not only was she my LI, she could wreak havoc on anything. Geth Primes? I just sicked Liara on them, they didn't even get to touch the floor until they were dead.

It was almost unnerving, actually.  I'd try to Lift a Prime with my AR-toting-Vanguard and epic-fail, and LiLi would toss it into the next stage without breaking a sweat.

[Asheer_Khan]

Here is really nice song which could pretty well pass to Lili:wub: and Shepard (especially after thier second talk ).

www.youtube.com/watch

i wish i could somehow implemented him to ME 2 and play him in Shep's cabin when i watch Lili's picture on desk:lol:

EDIT: Justin Can i "borrow" that siggy for my profile?

Modifié par Asheer_Khan, 26 mars 2010 - 11:14 .