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Shavon wrote...

Hey guys, just a little something I drew up last night for the Liara fans. I have not drawn anything since I was a kid, so it's not amazing, so don't expect much, but thought I would share it anyway.
http://Shavon513.dev...nding-158617912


Well Done!


Liara 3-some issue
I don't think this idea is all that natural for Asaris and especially not for Liara. She seems horrified/annoyed
by the rumors of Asari promiscuity in ME1. Also based on the jealousy she seemed to flash at the consort
I doubt she would really be up for sharing Shepard.

My no-mance male Shep has completed all romances for ME2 and although Miranda is a good character
I really can't see her and Liara sharing their man together perhaps because they are both so strong and 
have sacrificed so much for Shep already.









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Well guys, just 11 more nights now until issue 4 of Redemption is released! I'm so excited, can't wait to find out just what Liara has had to do for Shepard, and what sacrifices she has made. Then we have the Liara DLC to look out for! Can't wait!! Really looking forward to seeing more of the BBG!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Huh, I haven't seen that theory discussed for a while, Asheer. Are some people still perpetuating that rubbish? Sad.

Also, after Shepard asks "Ready for round 2?" isn't Liara's little giggle absolutely adorable? It's so sweet!


I actually have never used that option!  I don't know, I always think of my Shepard as not wanting to sound greedy.  Plus its location, once again, on the 'bad' part of the dial unnerved me.  (Funny, though, if I'd ever gotten a maleShep far enough, or had a modded PC copy of ME1, and went for Ash -- once, just like I did with Kaidan, purely for curiosity's sake -- I know exactly which option I'd go for after the 'drop and give me 20' line.)

Then again, some of my playthroughs I think it'd be most appropriate to tell LiLi "I'd rather not make love just because we're about to die -- I'd rather make love after we survive."  (Is it strange that I'm taking that from a Ronmione fic?  I can't even remember where I found it.)  And to tell you the truth, I do find the Dragon Age love mechanic to be ... refreshing.  I wonder, if we could've 'leveled up' our relationship with LiLi during the first game regardless of how many missions we were on together, would it be the same?  Or even, dare I say, better?

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Shavon wrote...

Hey guys, just a little something I drew up last night for the Liara fans. I have not drawn anything since I was a kid, so it's not amazing, so don't expect much, but thought I would share it anyway.
http://Shavon513.dev...nding-158617912


Dawww, baby Asari.  That's a great drawing.  I like how their child is grasping Shepard's hand.  Thanks for that.

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That reminds me. Was Liara always taller than Shepard, or did she grow a bunch between ME1 and ME2?

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yorkj86 wrote...

That reminds me. Was Liara always taller than Shepard, or did she grow a bunch between ME1 and ME2?

Maybe shes wearing high heels.:whistle:

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I actually have never used that option!  I don't know, I always think of my Shepard as not wanting to sound greedy.  Plus its location, once again, on the 'bad' part of the dial unnerved me. 

The lower right isn't always bad, sometimes it is just the forthright or even assertive option.  I agree though, I'm a bit leery of them myself usually though considering how often they are in fact the ass response to a situation.  And experimenting with lower right responses with Liara is definitely not something I'd personally care to do in most any circumstances.  I did it with that one though since she's just so adorable and I wanted more!  Liara's giggle is extremely cute and it seems she takes it as a compliment so that one isn't bad at all.
Did you do the "round 2" option with Leliana in Dragon Age?  She's so adorable when she finally figures out what you mean.

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Something ya'll might be forgetting, Asari "meld" with 1 (mono) I don't think they can do groups, so a threesome would be only in human terms, since melding is a part of Asari sexuallity they wouldn't be able to partake as it were, maybe only in the sense of "Take a Number, Please" as with the Consort

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Something ya'll might be forgetting, Asari "meld" with 1 (mono) I don't think they can do groups, so a threesome would be only in human terms, since melding is a part of Asari sexuallity they wouldn't be able to partake as it were, maybe only in the sense of "Take a Number, Please" as with the Consort

Threesome with just physical sex though.

Either way, I dont think Liara would be up for that.

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Jayla, I've never selected that option either! I always act like a gentleman and appreciate just how wonderful Liara was. :3 I've seen the "Ready for round 2" option on YouTube, though, and Liara's giggle is just adorable!



I like the idea of a level system for Liara's romance. I've thought that something similar may be utilised for the Liara romance ending in ME3, in which there would be a tiered system. If you've been faithful to Liara throughout the series, then you'll get the best possible ending, maybe with Shep and Liara becoming bondmates and having children. If you cheat on Liara or only start the romance in ME3, then you'll get a lesser Liara romance epilogue. I can't wait to see what's in store for remaining loyal to my beloved LiLi!



york, I was wondering about that earlier, and I think that Liara is possibly wearing heels under her dress. It goes with the formal attire motif she seems to have adopted for her role as an information broker, and it explains how as Shepard and Liara kiss in ME2, she's as tall as DudeShep and taller than FemShep.

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JaylaClark wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Huh, I haven't seen that theory discussed for a while, Asheer. Are some people still perpetuating that rubbish? Sad.

Also, after Shepard asks "Ready for round 2?" isn't Liara's little giggle absolutely adorable? It's so sweet!


I actually have never used that option!  I don't know, I always think of my Shepard as not wanting to sound greedy.  Plus its location, once again, on the 'bad' part of the dial unnerved me.  (Funny, though, if I'd ever gotten a maleShep far enough, or had a modded PC copy of ME1, and went for Ash -- once, just like I did with Kaidan, purely for curiosity's sake -- I know exactly which option I'd go for after the 'drop and give me 20' line.)

Then again, some of my playthroughs I think it'd be most appropriate to tell LiLi "I'd rather not make love just because we're about to die -- I'd rather make love after we survive."  (Is it strange that I'm taking that from a Ronmione fic?  I can't even remember where I found it.)  And to tell you the truth, I do find the Dragon Age love mechanic to be ... refreshing.  I wonder, if we could've 'leveled up' our relationship with LiLi during the first game regardless of how many missions we were on together, would it be the same?  Or even, dare I say, better?


I liked the system in Dragon Age better then what we have in Mass Effect. Having to level up the relationship, and work at it. Having your choices matter, and having to get on their good side. It's alot more rewarding then just, talk however many times, then get romance. You could really make some stupid choices in Dragon Age and get members of your party really mad at you. Some of the choices to be mean, were really total ****y things to say.

Don't get me wrong, the romance in Mass Effect is good, but only the Liara one. I don't care for the others.

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I remember how Lili says when we enter Choras Den that Asari are very open when comes to thier sexuality and that's why in many cases they tend to be "abused" by other species.

I think this whole idea of love triangle was cut off because of potential backfire from "Morality Crusaders" which already done in off damages when comes to femShep/Lili Ilos cutscene.
So Bioware decided not to play whit fire however who known.... since there are voicefiles of femShep and Ash together before Ilos (there is(?) on Youtube short movie whit lesbian Ash) then maybe Bioware did consider after all some sort of triangle (femShep/Lili/Ash - for example) but after deliberation they decided that this could be little too much to handle.

But right now i want to have Lili :wub: on my Shep side again so they together can kick Timmy's back whit Espressolarity:devil::o:devil:.


There is. it is just both Hale and Meer were given the same script and recorded it, I'm running a pair of characters one Femshep in the male role and a Manshep in the female role in me1 periodically checking thescripts and so far they are identical.

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Unata wrote...

Something ya'll might be forgetting, Asari "meld" with 1 (mono) I don't think they can do groups, so a threesome would be only in human terms, since melding is a part of Asari sexuallity they wouldn't be able to partake as it were, maybe only in the sense of "Take a Number, Please" as with the Consort

Threesome with just physical sex though.

Either way, I dont think Liara would be up for that.


I agree because it's not something they do or have done, I am sure Asari have "loved" more then one at one time or another, but their sexuality is based on the meld, ours isn't, so humans evolved different in they are more into touch on a physical level not mental, humans can touch more the one at a time as it were.

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Speaking of Liara's reluctance to engage in a threesome, does anyone else find her jealousy when you speak to Sha'ira to be absolutely adorable?



That's fascinating. You wanted to speak with the Commander?



It's so sweet! Don't worry Liara, you're the absolute best and one and only. <3

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It's hard not to pick "Ready for round two?" since how could you not to want to go again with Liara. And by telling her you want more, she knows you liked it the first time. The giggle tells me Liara likes it when Shepard is a bit naughty with her. That's a good thing. Don't have to be chivalrous all the time, you know.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Speaking of Liara's reluctance to engage in a threesome, does anyone else find her jealousy when you speak to Sha'ira to be absolutely adorable?

That's fascinating. You wanted to speak with the Commander?

It's so sweet! Don't worry Liara, you're the absolute best and one and only. <3

Love that.:wub:

See, if she wanted threesome, why would she be jealous?

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Well guys, just 11 more nights now until issue 4 of Redemption is released! I'm so excited, can't wait to find out just what Liara has had to do for Shepard, and what sacrifices she has made. Then we have the Liara DLC to look out for! Can't wait!! Really looking forward to seeing more of the BBG!

that news must be celebrated with a pic:
Image IPB
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as for me, i go OFFLINE for night [22.32 here], have a great night all, and cya tomorrow:)
"May Liara be with you"-Asari version of Yoda;) 

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I actually have never used that option!  I don't know, I always think of my Shepard as not wanting to sound greedy.  Plus its location, once again, on the 'bad' part of the dial unnerved me. 

The lower right isn't always bad, sometimes it is just the forthright or even assertive option.  I agree though, I'm a bit leery of them myself usually though considering how often they are in fact the ass response to a situation.  And experimenting with lower right responses with Liara is definitely not something I'd personally care to do in most any circumstances.  I did it with that one though since she's just so adorable and I wanted more!  Liara's giggle is extremely cute and it seems she takes it as a compliment so that one isn't bad at all.
Did you do the "round 2" option with Leliana in Dragon Age?  She's so adorable when she finally figures out what you mean.


Oh, there's one there?  Oh, I've got to stop handling my digital romances with such kid gloves!  (My digital friendships too, I seem to be the only one to always get the Kaidan challenge scene in this thread.  Seriously, I've got to tell Kaidan to back off to start... or just call him 'out of line' when I get the chance the second time.)  Then again, I should've expected Leliana wouldn't be against that ... she's a one-woman woman, and all, but she's a very loving one at that.  (And, though sweet, isn't innocent.  Okay, who cloned this woman from my fantasies and can I get royalties?:P)

I also want to blame this dialogue-wheel fear for my Kelly-flirting... that and I have a thing for redheads IRL :whistle:, though my Shepard has to remember, bad things can happen to people who flirt too much when one's girlfriend can squeeze people into coffee cups.  With her mind. :unsure:  I've learned the error of my ways, though... even if I have to go without fish in my fish tank, Liara is the only woman for me :wub:.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Speaking of Liara's reluctance to engage in a threesome, does anyone else find her jealousy when you speak to Sha'ira to be absolutely adorable?

That's fascinating. You wanted to speak with the Commander?

It's so sweet! Don't worry Liara, you're the absolute best and one and only. <3

Yep, I love it when she's already staking a claim on me!  I'm still traumatised though that I always missed the "Remember, I saw her first Lieutenant." line with Kaiden : (
Really Liara has never expressed any kind of endorsement or acceptance towards other people taking a sexual interest in Shepard, nor has she ever expressed even the remotest interest in anyone but Shepard herself.  Hell, she beats the crap out of five people alone for hitting on her on the comics.  Six if you count Feron getting slapped around for his lap comment.

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It's hard not to pick "Ready for round two?" since how could you not to want to go again with Liara. And by telling her you want more, she knows you liked it the first time. The giggle tells me Liara likes it when Shepard is a bit naughty with her. That's a good thing. Don't have to be chivalrous all the time, you know.


I'm such a paragon of virtue, though, that I prefer to let Liara know how much Shepard appreciates that she was fantastic, and how much it means that she was the first person that Liara loved and trusted enough to meld with. I'm an old romantic, particularly with Liara. :wub:

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@JaylaClark

Offtopic, but yes there is a "round two" path right afterwards with Leliana and it is really cute because she doesn't catch on to what you're hinting for a few lines and then she becomes really enthusiastic about it as well. And unlike in ME, you actually do get another round. No additional scenes or anything, but the dialog is certainly worth seeing. She gets that adorable naughty look on her face!


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scmadsen wrote...

It's hard not to pick "Ready for round two?" since how could you not to want to go again with Liara. And by telling her you want more, she knows you liked it the first time. The giggle tells me Liara likes it when Shepard is a bit naughty with her. That's a good thing. Don't have to be chivalrous all the time, you know.

I agree. I always pick that option and don't feel ashamed about it one bit. That giggle say she would not mind a second round, but Joker mess things up as usual <_<

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Asheer_Khan wrote...

I remember how Lili says when we enter Choras Den that Asari are very open when comes to thier sexuality and that's why in many cases they tend to be "abused" by other species.

I think this whole idea of love triangle was cut off because of potential backfire from "Morality Crusaders" which already done in off damages when comes to femShep/Lili Ilos cutscene.
So Bioware decided not to play whit fire however who known.... since there are voicefiles of femShep and Ash together before Ilos (there is(?) on Youtube short movie whit lesbian Ash) then maybe Bioware did consider after all some sort of triangle (femShep/Lili/Ash - for example) but after deliberation they decided that this could be little too much to handle.

But right now i want to have Lili :wub: on my Shep side again so they together can kick Timmy's back whit Espressolarity:devil::o:devil:.


There is. it is just both Hale and Meer were given the same script and recorded it, I'm running a pair of characters one Femshep in the male role and a Manshep in the female role in me1 periodically checking thescripts and so far they are identical.


I personally think that it might be an indication that they were considering it, though.  It seems downright silly to have someone record dialogue they know they're not going to use.  And given Leliana, Zevran, Liara and Kelly, I think that BioWare has no issue against doing that.  (I'll also assume Mark and Jennifer didn't have a problem with it, given that they recorded the dialogue in the first place.)

But someone's said that you can pull off Ashley with the dialogue used, but maleShep/Kaidan doesn't fully mesh... either Ash's dialogue was less gender specific and they dropped the idea (at latest) before the other VAs did their job, they never really had the idea and did waste disk space, or they dropped the idea in between Kimberly Brooks' session and Raphael Sbarge's session.  (Or, it was only really going to be Ash for both, which they dropped to remove the possibility of people going nuts about the double standard.)

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I can't wait to find out what happens to liara in Redemption 4. I've seen the preview and it looks awesome. Still have my fingers crossed that she has a dlc where she can be romanced :)

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I can't wait to find out what happens to liara in Redemption 4. I've seen the preview and it looks awesome. Still have my fingers crossed that she has a dlc where she can be romanced :)

Cant wait either, unfortunatly I'll have to wait an extra week or two though.:crying:

Stupid tfaw.<_<