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There are differences in Liara's facial expressions, J. And in the way in which she declines Shepard's offer to join the team. You have to look.



It really is quite ridiculous that we're having to compare YouTube videos of the Liara reunion in order to find acknowledgement of the romance. Such poor handling...

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Jayla, I'm glad you've also noticed Liara's somewhat different expressions if she's your LI, how she smiles alot more, how there's less frowning, and how she seems almost regretful and apologetic when she tells Shepard that she can't come with her. In a non-LI Liara reunion, she sounds almost irritated and snappy when she says that. You can see what they were going for, trying to alter the tone and feel of the Liara reunion so that she is warmer and more loving towards Shepard if she's your LI, but it's waaay too subtle. I'm very confident that we'll finally be able to comfort and console Liara in her DLC, allow Liara to open her heart to us, and rekindle and reaffirm the romance. I want my Shepard to embrace her fully, and tell her that I could never hate her and that everything is going to be alright. I can't wait, I want more Liara love!


I'm sure we will ... though I'm still very tempted to do kind of a walkthrough-slash-flashback fic on Illium, as soon as I can plot out the outline.  (Meeting, flash to first meeting, go looking for terminals, unseen conversation on Noveria, that kind of pattern...)

But it's amazing how I missed a lot of her expressions in both games until recently.  And you know why?  I've been obsessively reading the subtitles just to make sure I don't miss a line.  (I don't know why I have this habit, but this must stop.  Especially on my SDTV.)

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

There are differences in Liara's facial expressions, J. And in the way in which she declines Shepard's offer to join the team. You have to look.

It really is quite ridiculous that we're having to compare YouTube videos of the Liara reunion in order to find acknowledgement of the romance. Such poor handling...


I did look!  I cannot see a difference.

Yes, it was poor handling.

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JaylaClark wrote...

I'm sure we will ... though I'm still very tempted to do kind of a walkthrough-slash-flashback fic on Illium, as soon as I can plot out the outline.  (Meeting, flash to first meeting, go looking for terminals, unseen conversation on Noveria, that kind of pattern...)

But it's amazing how I missed a lot of her expressions in both games until recently.  And you know why?  I've been obsessively reading the subtitles just to make sure I don't miss a line.  (I don't know why I have this habit, but this must stop.  Especially on my SDTV.)


You know, I make an exception when I play Mass Effect. For all other characters, I read the subtitles and occasionally glace up at the characters face as they talk. With Liara, I focus on her face all the time. I just can't resist admiring her beauty, and I love watching her speak. She has such a beautiful and emotive face, that I have to look at it at all times. :wub:

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Why would they (asari) need to choose partners with great care if there wasn't going to be a product of the union?
and the evolve and grow part.

We don't know anything about their reproduction beyond the meld, I mean if a pregnancy is longer or anything
really. has me thinking...


Unata, what I think Liara is describing here is how much the asari union means to her. How it's more than just sex, but a deep, spiritual and emotional bond between two trusting and loving partners. A bond that transcends time and space, and marks true love, trust and connection to their partner. It shows how much she trusts and loves Shepard that she would even consider it, as it means so much to her. Like she says, she finds the idea of melding very daunting, but special. That's why she's never melded before, and wants to do it when she's completely comfortable and in love with her partner.

It's actually one of my favourite Liara conversations, as it shows just how much Shepard means to Liara, and how deeply she loves and trusts her, and the connection and deep emotional bond they share. It's heartwarming, and makes me love Liara!:wub:

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Also, new page, so time for another Liara pic!

Here's one of Liara passionately kissing J's Shepard, Rachel. I love how Liara kisses Shepard there. The expression of love, contentment, bliss and lust on her face is absolutely beautiful.

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:wub::wub:

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Also, new page, so time for another Liara pic!

Here's one of Liara passionately kissing J's Shepard, Rachel. I love how Liara kisses Shepard there. The expression of love, contentment, bliss and lust on her face is absolutely beautiful.

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:wub::wub:


:wub::wub::wub:

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Like my sig says:

I have never been more sure of anything in my life.

I love how Liara says that line. It's absolutely adorable, and shows how much she loves Shepard. :wub:

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Like my sig says:

I have never been more sure of anything in my life.

I love how Liara says that line. It's absolutely adorable, and shows how much she loves Shepard. :wub:


She's the one and only true LI :wub::wub::wub:

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Yep, the one and only LI that I will ever take throughout the entire Mass Effect series.

I can't imagine a playthrough or ME game in which Liara isn't my LI. I'd absolutely hate it, and just really wouldn't feel right.

It's only Liara for me!:wub:

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Happy Liara!



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justinnstuff wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Also, new page, so time for another Liara pic!

Here's one of Liara passionately kissing J's Shepard, Rachel. I love how Liara kisses Shepard there. The expression of love, contentment, bliss and lust on her face is absolutely beautiful.

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:wub::wub:


:wub::wub::wub:


:wub::wub::wub::wub:

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Sorry if this is a bit off topic from the current thread of conversation, but I just had an idea. I've seen a few people putting forward the theory that Liara is/was pregnant with Shepard's baby as a reason for her apparent coldness towards Shepard (she's embarassed and thinks Shepard would hate her) and anger at the Shadow Broker (he either threatened/kidnapped/killed the child). At first, I found this highly unlikely, since any reasoning behind her personailty shift would have to apply, whether she was your LI or not, but then it got me thinking.
Now, bare with me, this is a bit crackpot.
What if, being inexperienced and never having melded properly with anyone before, she 'accidentally' got pregnant from one of the platonic melds that she does with Shepard. You know, the ones where she tries to help Shep understand the vision etc. Now this does sound a bit crazy, and I think it's rather unlikely, but it would explain a lot if it was true.
To use a rather crass analogy, it's like having sex for the first time. If you don't have a condom, you may try just to pull out at the last minute to avoid the possibility of pregnancy. If you're inexperienced however, chances are you'll be caught up in thje heat of the moment and won't succeed in doing so (yes, that was ratrher tasteless, but I think it fit quite well). I'm sure this wouldn't be an issue for most Asari who have melded with people frequently, but for Liara who hasn't done it much before if at all, she could have gone too deep so to speak.
If it was true (and even I doubt it is tbh), it would certainly explain why Liara was detached and distant during her encounter with Shep. Regardless of LI status, finding out you've accidentally impregnated yourself with sombodies child would be a pretty major cause for embarassment.
Yeah, I'm just going to shut up before I sound like a total idiot :P

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I just...no. I doubt Liara was pregnant. I don't see them adding this to the messed up Liara story as it is.

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CheesesackIII wrote...

Yeah, I'm just going to shut up before I sound like a total idiot :P


Hey, don't worry! We like hearing everyone's theories, no matter how crackpot they are! :P

I don't think that Liara accidentally conceived Shepard's child. For one, I don't think the information exchange melds she has with Shepard are the first time she's ever done that, as I think she would have done the platonic meld with other asari in the past. It seems likely that the asari would use the information exchange meld as a useful means to transfer knowledge and information into each other's minds, so I think Liara would have done so in the past. Plus, when Liara says she has never melded before, she means the true, loving asari union, not the information exchange. She tells Shepard she has never melded before, even after you've already joined minds in the Comm Room. This to me says that Liara doesn't consider the information exchange a true meld.

Which brings me on to my next point, I think it's clear that there are two different types of meld, the aforementioned information exchange, platonic meld, and the true asari union between an asari and her partner and lover that can be used for the purposes of reproduction. Liara has only ever melded in a platonic manner prior to the night before Ilos, so I think there's little chance of her accidentally becoming pregnant.

Lastly, I think it's clear that asari also consciously choose as to when the union will result in her conceiving a child. If they didn't, it would make the Consort's job quite difficult. ;) During any meld, Liara would have to consciously allow herself to be impregnated, something that she wouldn't do as she's not irresponsible and stupid like that. It would be completely out of character.

And one other thing, you're forgetting that there was a whole month between the battle of the Citadel and the destruction of the Normandy. I'm sure that in that time, Liara would have discovered she had accidentally gotten pregnant and informed Shepard.

Thanks though, I do like reading new theories! I think that Liara intially appearing distant to Shepard is due to her fear that Shepard will hate her, as she explains later.

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Of course, a pic of Liara kissing a femshep.<_<

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And one of her almost kissing Femshep.  Seriously, Maleshep gets plenty of marketing and advertisements.  Femshep has tons of fans that wish she would get the same and so I have a feeling those wishes get channeled into all the fanart that is made.  Plus, FemshepxLiara is just so darn cute!:wub:

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Happy Liara!

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hi all=]
reposting pic, as it's best one on this page=]

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Does anyone have a full-body shot of Liara on Illium? As in, you can see her entire body from head to toe without anything obstructing it. Prefferably one of her looking sad or pensive if possible. I think I saw something like it on an earlier page, but there are so many :P

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CheesesackIII wrote...

Does anyone have a full-body shot of Liara on Illium? As in, you can see her entire body from head to toe without anything obstructing it. Prefferably one of her looking sad or pensive if possible. I think I saw something like it on an earlier page, but there are so many :P


I know which picture you mean, Cheesesack. Give me a minute and I'll look for you.

Oh yeah, and FemShep/Liara does indeed rule!

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Also, had loads of random Spanish text popped up all over the forum for you guys, or is it just me?

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Wait, never mind, my settings were messed up somehow.



@Enfants Thanks :D

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Cheesesack, did you mean these ones? It's the Shepard/Liara kiss but zoomed out and taken from a different angle.

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I do love these pics, makes the kiss look alot more passionate with the way Liara has her hand on Shepard's back.:wub:

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Cheesesack, did you mean these ones? It's the Shepard/Liara kiss but zoomed out and taken from a different angle.

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I do love these pics, makes the kiss look alot more passionate with the way Liara has her hand on Shepard's back.:wub:

Those should do nicely, thanks a lot.

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CheesesackIII wrote...

Those should do nicely, thanks a lot.


No problem, glad I could be of assistance.

Have you got some Liara fanart planned or something? :D