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Were those taken with a free floating camera or something?

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@ CheesesackIII

I just read the description of your story, "Shepard finds her heart torn between two women". And I'd like to know if Liara wins, to be the only one in the end? (Otherwise I'm not really interested in reading, no offense.)

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More voting please Image IPB

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bjdbwea wrote...

@ CheesesackIII

I just read the description of your story, "Shepard finds her heart torn between two women". And I'd like to know if Liara wins, to be the only one in the end? (Otherwise I'm not really interested in reading, no offense.)


The story isn't finished and atm, Shepard is with Tali and not Liara (although it's quite obvious that she loves Liara as well). I haven't updated in a while, but the chapter I'm writing atm is very Liara focused. I don't want to spoil too much, but there's definitely going to be more Shep/Liara stuff soon.
If you're interested in a pure FemShep/Liara story though, I am working on one currently. I'm not sure quite when it will be published, but it should be soonish. I may post an extract laer if I can find a suitable part to separate from the rest.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

CheesesackIII wrote...

Those should do nicely, thanks a lot.


No problem, glad I could be of assistance.

Have you got some Liara fanart planned or something? :D

Not really fanart, since I suck at drawing. I'm trying to imrove my Photoshop skills however and I've got a few decent ideas for peices I could do. I'm not guaranteeing anything, since they may not turn out as well as I'd like, but if they turn out well, I'll post them up here.

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CheesesackIII wrote...

The story isn't finished and atm, Shepard is with Tali and not Liara (although it's quite obvious that she loves Liara as well). I haven't updated in a while, but the chapter I'm writing atm is very Liara focused. I don't want to spoil too much, but there's definitely going to be more Shep/Liara stuff soon.
If you're interested in a pure FemShep/Liara story though, I am working on one currently. I'm not sure quite when it will be published, but it should be soonish. I may post an extract laer if I can find a suitable part to separate from the rest.


Cool, looking forward to reading that. I like any and all Shep/Liara fanfiction, so give us all a nudge in here when it's finished and I'm sure all of us will be eager to read it.

@Shadowcat

Voted on your poll. Can't wait to see your new piece of Liara fanart!

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I really like this piece of fanart, Liara running with a pistol. Interesting seeing her in what seems to be a combat situation wearing her labcoat. Perhaps Shep told her she looks sexy battling the geth in her scientist garb!:happy:

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Ugh sorry about the "out of the box" thing


Replying without a full quote.

What you posted, along with some of the other things she says, always made me think, that Liara was saying she wanted a child, with Shepard. I always expected Liara to have a daughter come ME2, and this would be her reason for not being able to come with you if you were her LI, and it would fit that Shepard would want Liara to stay behind as well, to care for their child. If she wasn't your LI, she'd be on Ilos, and kind of doing her own thing, and you'd be unable to find her, or she wouldn't want to leave, having found something important that needed to be studied.

Why, oh why, could it not have been that easy, that simple, and they would had given us such a wonderful reason for Liara being out of ME2? I'll stop before I go on a page long rant...

Liara could also be telling us, that the first meld is special, and that it does in fact change both Bondmates forever. Maybe Asari can only do this kind of thing once, any other melds would be only to mate, or I don't know, is it proven that an Asari can mate with more then one person in their lifetime? They may take others as lovers, and they meld, but they might never become true Bondmates or be able to have daughters together.

I don't think we can prove this one way or the other. Maybe this is a bigger reason behind why having pureblood daughters is so looked down upon. If two Asair become Bondmates, then as Liara puts it, nothing is gained. This explains why it's such a big deal to some. Because Asari could mate with each other, then turn around and mate with
another race, but if you can only do this special kind of meld once, and only mate with that person...then it becomes a much bigger deal.

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scmadsen wrote...

Why, oh why, could it not have been that easy, that simple, and they would had given us such a wonderful reason for Liara being out of ME2? I'll stop before I go on a page long rant...


Because it's an attmpt to take Liara's character in an interesting direction, by having her so conflicted and emotionally tormented and in such a bad predicament. I don't mind this direction they've taken her character, or her current story arc, it's just the execution that's horribly flawed and badly done.

Imagine how emotional and heartrending it's going to be when Shepard finally helps Liara bury her demons, and eases her of her emotional pain and guilt and we get the big, emotional romance reconciliation and rekindlement? Imagine what that scene is going to be like, and how much it's going to pull on the heartstrings? I think it's going to be completely worth it in the end. The proper Liara romance reunion and rekindling is going to be beautiful, in my opinion.

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You'd rather see Liara hurting, then see her happy and caring for a daughter? I fully understand the logic behind what they did, and yes, it makes a touching story...but I don't have to like it. I can like Liara and what she went thru for Shepard...but, I would rather see her happy, and I won't feel bad for thinking that way.

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Also, you are expecting them not to screw it up. I'm not sure they won't. What if they do? Then what. What if we get nothing more then fives minutes to talk with Liara, two half-hour, go here and kill for me, missions, and that's it for Liara's DLC?

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Hello everybody!

My favorite part of the ME Menu: ^^
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scmadsen wrote...

You'd rather see Liara hurting, then see her happy and caring for a daughter? I fully understand the logic behind what they did, and yes, it makes a touching story...but I don't have to like it. I can like Liara and what she went thru for Shepard...but, I would rather see her happy, and I won't feel bad for thinking that way.


No, I'm not saying that. Of course I'd like to see Liara happy, I hate seeing her so sad, hurt, stressed, guilty and lonely. I'm just saying the reason behind why they've written Liara in this direction, and how it gives me tremendous hope about the romantic reconciliation and rekindling, and how powerful and emotional that scene is going to be. When Liara finally fully opens up to Shepard, admits her guilt and pain and tells Shep how much she loves her, it's going to be beautiful. I can't wait until we can have Shepard comfort her, and tell her how much she loves her.

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scmadsen wrote...

Also, you are expecting them not to screw it up. I'm not sure they won't. What if they do? Then what. What if we get nothing more then fives minutes to talk with Liara, two half-hour, go here and kill for me, missions, and that's it for Liara's DLC?


I don't believe it will be like that, at all. I believe Liara's DLC has been developed concurrently with the rest of ME2, and therefore has received as much development time, care, attention and resources as the rest of the game, meaning that Liara's DLC is going to be deep, emotional and substantial.

Plus, with the way Liara has been written in Redemption and ME2, with all of her hurt and emotional pain centred around her love for Shepard, it would feel completely false and unnatural if they don't have deep, emotional and intimate scenes with Shep and Liara, with Liara struggling to overcome her guilt and grief and opening up to Shepard about how much she loves her, and how she's suffered, fearing that Shepard will hate her. Shepard can apologise for not being there for her, and the pair of them can vow to never leave each other's side again.

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Hello everybody!

My favorite part of the ME Menu: ^^
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Hi Derumiel!

I agree, it looks beautiful! I love how Liara looks through that blue filter!:wub:

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scmadsen wrote...

Also, you are expecting them not to screw it up. I'm not sure they won't. What if they do? Then what. What if we get nothing more then fives minutes to talk with Liara, two half-hour, go here and kill for me, missions, and that's it for Liara's DLC?


Aw :(  I worry about this too.  By now, Bw has heard the fans desire for more plot-driven dlc, though, and I hope they have taken that into account.

Of course, if the dlc was developed concurrently with the game . . . idk, we'll just have to see!

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CheesesackIII wrote...

The story isn't finished and atm, Shepard is with Tali and not Liara (although it's quite obvious that she loves Liara as well). I haven't updated in a while, but the chapter I'm writing atm is very Liara focused. I don't want to spoil too much, but there's definitely going to be more Shep/Liara stuff soon.
If you're interested in a pure FemShep/Liara story though, I am working on one currently. I'm not sure quite when it will be published, but it should be soonish. I may post an extract laer if I can find a suitable part to separate from the rest.


That's nice to hear. I don't mind Tali, but as you could guess, I have no interest in her romance. Especially not one where Liara has to play second fiddle. <_< But no offense of course, don't forget to let us know when your new story is finished.

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I'm hoping for the same thing LET does. I believe BW knows about our concerns and acts accordingly. I'm an optimist, some might say. After ME2 I'm worried, too, but they have to know that the Liara fanbase expects something substantial.

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This has probably been discussed and I missed it but something has just occurred to me on my latest play through. After meeting Ash/Kaiden on Horizon Kelly brings them up in your next conversation with her. She fully acknowledges them as part of your crew and allows for the admission that they were your LI.



I was wondering if the fact that she doesn't mention Liara at all is just another indicator that TIM is trying to keep you as far removed from her as possible ... both physically and mentally. The other indicator in game (I have not read the comics yet) is that he lies about who she is working for and being able to trust her. I could be reading too much into it but I have always felt that there is way more going on with that scene then we are being told at the moment.

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Shavon wrote...

scmadsen wrote...

Also, you are expecting them not to screw it up. I'm not sure they won't. What if they do? Then what. What if we get nothing more then fives minutes to talk with Liara, two half-hour, go here and kill for me, missions, and that's it for Liara's DLC?


Aw :(  I worry about this too.  By now, Bw has heard the fans desire for more plot-driven dlc, though, and I hope they have taken that into account.

Of course, if the dlc was developed concurrently with the game . . . idk, we'll just have to see!


Problem with the DLC is that everything we say at the moment is just speculation. We can just hope BW will do it the right way, because we still haven't seen any scenes or other "proof".
What else can we do? Wait, hope and speculate some more.
But it's quite interesting to see how many different opinions toward LDLC are in these forums.

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Aw :(  I worry about this too.  By now, Bw has heard the fans desire for more plot-driven dlc, though, and I hope they have taken that into account.

Of course, if the dlc was developed concurrently with the game . . . idk, we'll just have to see!


That's what I think, Shav. BW has always intended for Liara to have a much larger ME role, going by the cut audio files that seem to suggest that Liara would've accompanied you on a mission. And this was before Liara's story was greatly expanded and revised in Redemption. Therefore, it stands to reason that Liara's ME2 role will be alot more substantial, and deeper too. It's just that due to Redemption not being finished, they've had to hold back on releasing Liara's full role so as not to spoil the comics.

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@ Derumiel I was so optimistic prior to ME2, and saw some pretty bog disappointments, despite it being an awesome game anyway. While I don't want to squash Enfants and Baal's hopes, I do hope they aren't getting their hopes up for nothing. I also hope they are right!



I would love to be able to see Liara dlc for post-suicide mission where we can help her kill the Sb and rescue Feron. That might actually be better for a Feron recruitment mission in ME3, but whatever we can get!

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Don't get me wrong, I want a really good Liara DLC that puts ME2 itself to shame...but I'm ready for the worst, so that maybe...just maybe...I'll be surprised, and I can say to myself...well, it was better then I thought it would be. And yes, I know...you don't even have to go there and tell me all the things wrong with thinking like that.

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Shavon wrote...

@ Derumiel I was so optimistic prior to ME2, and saw some pretty bog disappointments, despite it being an awesome game anyway. While I don't want to squash Enfants and Baal's hopes, I do hope they aren't getting their hopes up for nothing. I also hope they are right!


I understand that point, i also had high expetations towards ME2 and although it's a great game i still expected a bit more warily towards DLC,...
I also wish that it'll be a great, emotional, memorable, ... content. But I still doubt it and don't want my hopes to rise too high. :unsure:

But hey hope dies last, right? 

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Even though I hope to be proven wrong, I don't expect any meaningful DLC from BioWare/EA. That's why I especially like art that portrays what should've been in ME 2, or what should be in ME 3.