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[JaylaClark]

rynluna wrote...

If we had been given other f/f romance in the game, I still would have went with Liara as my main Shep's love interest.  With my "non-canon" Sheps I might have tried out the other ones but Kathryn Shepard's forever love is Liara T'Soni. <3

True that, as I've been saying a lot for some odd reason.

I like Tali and Ashley more than a lot of people on this thread -- though both of them have a distressing lack of open-mindedness about certain species, yet I can't blame either of them per se, and truth be told they both work with members of the species that they're beyond wary of without a problem.  (Except for a pretty justifiable ish with Legion after his mission.)  Still, Liara is my favorite first-game squaddie.  She's the perfect blend of geeky and confident, not to mention those eyes .... <3:wub:... *sighs dreamily*

As for the second game ... Hmm.   We're not evaluating the male options, so it's between Samara, Miranda, Jack ... with Tali already covered above and Kelly already an option.  (One that I'd take, actually, just not over Liara.  And what the heck is going on with her not triggering a Paramour achievement, when I'm certain that it should count as cheating and romancing?  Still, she seems to be a very loving person, not just in the sarcastic sense,either.)

Among the unavailable ones ... well, I really don't think I'm drawn to any of them.  (Though Miri has been growing on me a tad.  Still, her facial model is way too close to the Uncanny Valley to not be distracting, and Yvonne... needed the direction she got in her loyalty mission for all of her lines... still, her story for some reason reminds me a lot of Bastilla's, which seems to be the source of what attraction I have ...)

So for my money, :wub:Liara:wub: wins outright.  With Kelly a close second, and Tali a closer third.

[Slakky]

JaylaClark wrote...
As for the second game ... Hmm.   We're not evaluating the male options, so it's between Samara, Miranda, Jack ... with Tali already covered above and Kelly already an option.  (One that I'd take, actually, just not over Liara.  And what the heck is going on with her not triggering a Paramour achievement, when I'm certain that it should count as cheating and romancing?  Still, she seems to be a very loving person, not just in the sarcastic sense,either.)

This is actually a more interesting question.  I've always found Ash generally repugnant, and I don't think anyone who fits the Liarasexual profile much cares for her either.

Liara vs Jack vs Tali as F/F interests on the other hand....hrrrm.  Tali always gives me kind of a little sister vibe, and Jack only works in certain perspectives, but I'd probably do a playthrough with one of them.

[UFOash]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Also, this page hasn't had a picture of the lovely Liara posted yet. This needs to be corrected!



:wub:

Thats a nice picture.
Where is Liara there?

[Noxis6]

JPfanner wrote...

@LesEnfantsTerribles

Yep, she never lies to you or tries to trick you.  Never tries to call in favors or anything like that.  If she can't tell you something, then she tells you that she can't.  Everything she does tell you though is the truth.  If she wanted to be dishonest or manipulative it would have been so very easy for her to do that.  Especially considering how gullible and non-confrontational ME2 Shepard is.  You can only do those two missions for her by Shepard asking themselves if there is anything they can do to help her.  It just seems hypocritical to complain about what she needs help with when you're the one who asked if there was anything you could to do to help in the first place.

I think she tries to keep some distance, even from her lover, in that encounter because she already knows what is going to happen in the end. That the Normandy is going to be leaving with Shepard on it, but she is going to still be at her desk

*puts on tinfoil hat*

We dont know that,we just assume that shes hones with Shepard,given Biowares newfound obsession with darkness I dont really trust the writers

*takes of tin foil hat*

Tbh I'm not a fan of Liaras new role an it has nothing to do with gender,I just think there were other ways to show of her determination and skill then making her a criminal,face it thats what she is atm,you may justify with thats what she needs to do to take out the SB but this doesnt change the bottom line.

As for her keeping her distance,might be the case,but as if it is then again the game does a bad job of showing that to the player,I could understand it since the collectors are an strange advanced alien race at least to the few people that know them and most of galaxy thinks they are a myth.
As for the whole thing with a "dark" path well,her job is not about smiles and sunshine,her clients are not all friendly people,in the worst case even slavers and pirates,innocents might suffer because of what she sells them,of course thats speculation but we never know.
And I think we can agree Liara carries quite an amount of hate and anger towards the SB,thats always a dangerous thing because these emotions can blind you,look at Garrus he ended up in a pretty bad situation because of his hate of injustice,now I dont want to say Liara will start shooting criminals randomly,but she carries certain dangers with her,the SB might exploit them or not is to be seen.
Even if you dont shove in the Reapers into the SBs story arc he is a very dangerous enemy and I'm curious if the last comic will shed some light on why he didnt kill Liara by now,when hes seemingly quite fast at taking people out that mess with him

[Marcin K]

UFOash wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Also, this page hasn't had a picture of the lovely Liara posted yet. This needs to be corrected!



:wub:

Thats a nice picture.
Where is Liara there?

hi all Laira fans:)
isn't it snapped in Feros undergrounds? 

[Asheer_Khan]

I noticed that each time when Lili is whit my Shep in party (and that's mean always) when Shep is in BIG troubles she shout warnings not Ash and thats made me always smile.

*Sigh...* Honestly i start to wonder why fans can write great stories involved all ME characters when so called 'lead writer" was not able to create plausible explanation for each romance option... but i think main blame for that should go on EA and thier "vision" of ME2 as wanabeRPG/Shooter.<_<

On the other hand it's really start to made me sad how much "bad press" Liara "collect" on this forum just because that baka Walters made from her NeoBenezia character when she is not her mother at all... and heck not even Benezia was a Sith Lord but just missguided by Sovieregin tragic personality.
I still can't forget that last scenes in labs on Noveria where Benezia (who known if not whit help of the Queen) for a brief moment regain her senses and her words" You always made me proud Liara" were final affirmation of her deep love for Lili... God how i missed there any sort of opportunity to hug Lili or show any form of care for her:crying:.
But i think at time when Drew wrote ME scenario nobody in Bioware suspect how big impact Lili will create within game community.
But i am too tired to even participate in debates like "Liara is evil" because i known that arguing whit Lili's haters is on the same level as arguing whit ultra stubborn donkey on the cross roads.

Sheesh... Lets hope that after redemption 4 release Bioware will introduce Liara DLC which will put at end this whole issue but one thing i want to point.
As much as i keep myself out of those hate threads here in this particular thread i won't tolerate anyone who will try to smear our blue angel... and that's serious warning.

Who known maybe one day we will get Mass Effect improvement pack ( upgraded graphic, adding some extra features like Para/Reneg interruptions, (maybe ME 2 was test field to see how those interruptions will work in game enviroment?) and some more improvements) but i known that this is more wishfull thinking that more possible Lili's DLC.

On the side note... i really wish i can write in english so good to write actual fiction, bit since english is not my main language writing such complex stuff is still for a while not possible for me...

And here is Lili's reaction on my post.

Modifié par Asheer_Khan, 05 avril 2010 - 10:01 .

[bjdbwea]

Somebody1003 wrote...

I liked that comic, except for one little thing.

Yeah... Shepard should be paragon! :innocent:

Modifié par bjdbwea, 05 avril 2010 - 10:20 .

[Noxis6]

bjdbwea wrote...
Yeah... Shepard should be paragon! :innocent:

On that note does anyone think Bioware might go somewhere with renegade Shepards "Sith Lord" appearence,I still cant believe normal implants do that

[bjdbwea]

I can't stand it. They probably just thought the casual gamers would find it "cool", and pulled an explanation out of their hats, just like with the sudden appearance of ammo. The scars in ME 1 were perfect (would only have liked more choices), but they had to go for this new "feature". Typical ME 2 change. <_<

[Marcin K]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

rynluna wrote...
 It would have been nice to see Liara touch Shep's Renegade face and ask, "What did they do to you?"

Yep. Another deep, emotionally engaging moment that was completely passed over. How touching would it have been to have Liara show real concern for Shepard's plight after she opens up? There really were so many missed opportunities regarding Liara's scenes in ME2. /sigh:mellow:

and for Paragon Pure Shep it could look like this:
Liara comes to Shep and says "We will be together very soon my love"...*DEEP kiss* 

[bjdbwea]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I think anyone who claims that "Liara is evil now" can easily be derided, as they have not really analysed her character, her motivations, her emotions and her suffering in ME2. If you don't read between the lines regarding Liara's situation during the events of ME2, they you're going to misunderstand her. But we know better!

Very true. And the same is true, by the way, for Ashley in ME 1. There seem to be a lof of people who can't be bothered trying to understand her character either. And that, even though it's much easier to make sense of Ash in ME 1, than it is to make any sense of Liara's scene in ME 2.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 05 avril 2010 - 12:31 .

[Eddie-Hawke]

rynluna wrote...

It would have been nice to see Liara touch Shep's Renegade face and ask, "What did they do to you?"

You just inspired me to write this.  Thanks

[bjdbwea]

Nice, but it stops right at the start of the discussion that BioWare/EA artificially withheld too.