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Support Liara T'Soni for ME3 - Squadmate and LI

Débuté par Nozybidaj , févr. 18 2010 08:42

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:33

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Is the Liara DLC a confirmed thing or just something the community just wants? Image IPB
Has anyone at Bioware actually mentioned it?


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It's based off of this. The lead-in files are present on an install. Notice Thief and Veteran are there. That was Zaeed and Kasumi. It's just a matter of reading that top entry that says Liara DLC and then you realize what they have planned. Also, the download names show where the DLC starts. Zaeed says OmgHub, which is omega hub. Cithub is The Citadel. Nor = Normandy, which is the crash site DLC.


So what is twrhub? Image IPB
Hmm...


Not sure. I can't think of anything off the top of my head. Also, the Liara DLC lead in file is a different extension than the others. I have no idea what that means either. Her's is an adc file or something, the rest of them are p something.

 Also. the file size is much larger......ooooh. can't wait

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:33

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Ah,so there is actual, solid evidence for this! Has anyone hacked any soundbites to see what Liara says, or will this come with the dlc?


Yep, in addition when Redemption was announced they said it would "tie-in to DLC being produced for ME2." Redemption is Liara's story, so therefore, Liara DLC!


Ok, forgive me for being so sceptical recently . . ., but now you have me finally convinced^_^  Awesome!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Shavon wrote...

Ah,so there is actual, solid evidence for this! Has anyone hacked any soundbites to see what Liara says, or will this come with the dlc?


Yep, in addition when Redemption was announced they said it would "tie-in to DLC being produced for ME2." Redemption is Liara's story, so therefore, Liara DLC!

Also, even the Mass Effect wiki has picked up on the DLC.

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:34

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I should stop playing games and readImage IPB

Actually the book with Saren in it is Revelations.  I kept saying Redemption because I keep thinking of Redemption coming out soon.
Reading Revelations does make it really hard to see any positive aspects to Saren.  He murders so many people just to get his hands on Sovereign so he can use it to exterminate humanity.  He actually loathes the Council, and especially the Turian Councilor, for stopping the turians from wiping out humanity during the First Contact War.  He only uses his Spectre status to try and find a way to get revenge.
It has a lot of Anderson stuff in it too, so that was cool since Anderson is like Shepard's mentor.  It took twenty years for humanity to recover enough clout with the Council to get another person reviewed for Spectre status after Saren set Anderson up too.  The human ambassador then is a lot cooler than Udina too Image IPB


I just recently purchased the books but haven't read them yet. I can't wait to learn all about it. I love the ME universe. I hope BioWare shows up and owns the show with ME3 and redeems all this stuff.

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:35

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Shavon wrote...

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Shavon wrote...

Ah,so there is actual, solid evidence for this! Has anyone hacked any soundbites to see what Liara says, or will this come with the dlc?


Yep, in addition when Redemption was announced they said it would "tie-in to DLC being produced for ME2." Redemption is Liara's story, so therefore, Liara DLC!


Ok, forgive me for being so sceptical recently . . ., but now you have me finally convinced^_^  Awesome!




I'm glad we could help!! :D

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:35

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I think expanding a character's story usually means making the darker though, as that is the way to make someone seem more "complex".

In reference to the Wiki link, that is.

Modifié par screwoffreg, 05 avril 2010 - 11:36 .

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JPfanner wrote...

Cartims wrote...
I should stop playing games and readImage IPB

Actually the book with Saren in it is Revelations.  I kept saying Redemption because I keep thinking of Redemption coming out soon.
Reading Revelations does make it really hard to see any positive aspects to Saren.  He murders so many people just to get his hands on Sovereign so he can use it to exterminate humanity.  He actually loathes the Council, and especially the Turian Councilor, for stopping the turians from wiping out humanity during the First Contact War.  He only uses his Spectre status to try and find a way to get revenge.
It has a lot of Anderson stuff in it too, so that was cool since Anderson is like Shepard's mentor.  It took twenty years for humanity to recover enough clout with the Council to get another person reviewed for Spectre status after Saren set Anderson up too.  The human ambassador then is a lot cooler than Udina too Image IPB

Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:37

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Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?


Yes. It is very hard to believe though.

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:37

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Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

"All this time, it wasn't your sources. YOU DID THIS TO ME!"

My Shep was pretty pissed off to discover Liara was responsible for handing his dead ass over to Cerberus.


aaand you would still be dead if it wasn't for her, so I guess she failed you?

To add to that, you would be in the blood vessels of that big nasty Human Reaper. If I was her and you told me that, I would put you in a tea cup and personally hand you to the collectors. Then see who would be mad and angry then, lol.


You'd also be dead without TIM and Miranda.  Arguably you owe more to them.

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:39

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Somebody1003 wrote...
Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?

Yep, he sided with the other Councilors to stop the turians from finishing off humanity.  Humanity would have been wiped out otherwise.

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:41

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screwoffreg wrote...

I think expanding a character's story usually means making the darker though, as that is the way to make someone seem more "complex".


Not necessarily. Look at The Boss in Metal Gear Solid 3. At the start of the game, you think she's defected to the Soviets and is nothing more than a traitor to the US. A villain.

With the big reveal at the end though that she was a fake defector, that she was set up by the US government and used as a tool to achieve their goals, and that she had to sacrifice herself and all of her values, she comes across as very pure, and noble. She's complex, but not dark at all in any way.

Liara isn't getting dark really. She's just in an extrmemly bad position, isolated from anyone she cares about or who cares about her, until Shepard shows up again, and extremely reluctant to do what she is doing because it tests her principals and values. But she does it because she sees it as a necessity, because she is a strong person like that.

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:41

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JPfanner wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...
Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?

Yep, he sided with the other Councilors to stop the turians from finishing off humanity.  Humanity would have been wiped out otherwise.


Unless he was overruled by the other two.
Seems more likely...

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UFOash wrote...

JPfanner wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...
Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?

Yep, he sided with the other Councilors to stop the turians from finishing off humanity.  Humanity would have been wiped out otherwise.



Unless he was overruled by the other two.
Seems more likely...


JP read the books though, and they would probably go into detail on how that played out. If that was the case JP would have mentioned it.

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:45

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JPfanner wrote...

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Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?

Yep, he sided with the other Councilors to stop the turians from finishing off humanity.  Humanity would have been wiped out otherwise.

But didnt humanity do pretty well against the turians?

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From what I understand, the Turians were preparing to mobilise their armies for a full scale attack on humanity before the Council intervened. Sure, the Alliance managed to retake Shanxi. But that's because the small army stationed there made the turians think that made up the bulk of the Alliance's military force.

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From what I understand, the Turians were preparing to mobilise their armies for a full scale attack on humanity before the Council intervened. Sure, the Alliance managed to retake Shanxi. But that's because the small army stationed there made the turians think that made up the bulk of the Alliance's military force.

Damn turians, why would they want to wipe out a sentiant race.:crying:

But in my game they like humans now thanks to them saving the council.:innocent:

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Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?

Yep, he sided with the other Councilors to stop the turians from finishing off humanity.  Humanity would have been wiped out otherwise.

 But he seemed to hate Shep so much.....because he/she was human, I'm confused

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They weren't trying to wipe out humanity, just launch a full scale invasion to occupy humanity's colonies and possibly Earth, in order to bring what they saw as a potentially threatening race under control.

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:51

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UFOash wrote...

JPfanner wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...
Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?

Yep, he sided with the other Councilors to stop the turians from finishing off humanity.  Humanity would have been wiped out otherwise.


Unless he was overruled by the other two.
Seems more likely...

There's actually a discussion about it in the book, and the thing you have to remember is that the Council aren't human politicians.  They don't do things that human politcians would do.  Stopping the turians is the right thing to do, and so that's what the Council does, even the turian Coucilor.  It's actually a really cool scene because Goyle (the human ambassador) becomes ashamed when she realizes how childish humanity is compared to what the Council has accomplished in ruling a galactic society.
The whole incident was a misunderstanding.  The turians were doing their job patrolling relays that hadn't been explored yet.  The humans were just expanding.  They met and the shots were exchanged, a human ship limped back to a human colony.  The turians followed and laid seige, humans showed up and smoked them.  Then the turians were getting ready for actual fleet action against humanity, which would have ended up with humanity getting taken out easily.  The Council stepped in and said that there was no need to exterminate them, that they could join the galactic community.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

They weren't trying to wipe out humanity, just launch a full scale invasion to occupy humanity's colonies and possibly Earth, in order to bring what they saw as a potentially threatening race under control.



The nerve, what book is this in.......must read

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Posté 05 avril 2010 - 11:58

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Cartims wrote...

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Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?

Yep, he sided with the other Councilors to stop the turians from finishing off humanity.  Humanity would have been wiped out otherwise.

 But he seemed to hate Shep so much.....because he/she was human, I'm confused

The Council doesn't know what Saren has been doing on the side these last twenty years.  And they still think that Anderson was the one that screwed up that mission.  From what Ashley and Terra Firma say about Shanxi and the First Contact War there are a TON of humans who can't let all of that go.
So the Council just thinks this is humanity whining about something else (humanity does whine a ton) and having a grudge against Saren.  Then when you get that evidence they declare Saren rogue and Shepard becomes a Spectre.
The Turian Councilor also has a job on the Council.  He gets to play Bad Cop.  The dynamic between them is actually pretty cool to watch even in the game.

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Posté 06 avril 2010 - 12:00

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Feel like posting the adorable kitten eyes pic of Liara!

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:wub::wub:

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Posté 06 avril 2010 - 12:01

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JPfanner wrote...

Cartims wrote...

JPfanner wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...
Wait, the turian councilor was against fighting with humanity?

Yep, he sided with the other Councilors to stop the turians from finishing off humanity.  Humanity would have been wiped out otherwise.

 But he seemed to hate Shep so much.....because he/she was human, I'm confused

The Council doesn't know what Saren has been doing on the side these last twenty years.  And they still think that Anderson was the one that screwed up that mission.  From what Ashley and Terra Firma say about Shanxi and the First Contact War there are a TON of humans who can't let all of that go.
So the Council just thinks this is humanity whining about something else (humanity does whine a ton) and having a grudge against Saren.  Then when you get that evidence they declare Saren rogue and Shepard becomes a Spectre.
The Turian Councilor also has a job on the Council.  He gets to play Bad Cop.  The dynamic between them is actually pretty cool to watch even in the game.


Yeah, I think the Asari is good cop.....and she always seem to have the final say.

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Posté 06 avril 2010 - 12:06

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Yeah, I should probably say that humanity would have lost the war rather than being totally wiped out of existence. Humanity would be a subject race. That almost happens again in Revelations because the Alliance breaks the AI research laws actually.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

They weren't trying to wipe out humanity, just launch a full scale invasion to occupy humanity's colonies and possibly Earth, in order to bring what they saw as a potentially threatening race under control.

What did the council say about the war with humanity?

And what book is this all in Revelation?
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