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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Indeed LD, I'm hoping it provides more insight into Liara's situation and predicament in ME2, and shows us if TIM is indeed manipulating her and using her like a tool.


We can always hope and that they may give a hint of some blue DLC that may be on its way.

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I really don't see where people were getting the "Liara is the next SB" idea from, even with the audio files that have turned out to be trash.



To me, it looks like the original plot device is that Liara would use the data gathered by the recently destroyed SB to try to discover any information that would be any help in the upcoming battle against the Collectors, due to the fact that the SB obviously dealt with them and had contect with them. Meaning that, once the suicide mission is over, Liara is back on the team again.



Also, Liara says in that cut dialogue that most of the SB agents report to her now. What's not to say that she has the SB's despicable agents arrested, but keeps the harmless ones? I'd imagine that she wouldn't want to work with someone like Fist or Nyxeris, but would be happy to have someone like Barla Von report to her. As I said, the original (retarded and stupid, I may add) reason that Liara wouldn't have joined you on the SM is because she wanted to discover any way in which she could help Shep in fighter the Collectors. Once the Collectors have gone, Liara abandons her info broker job and is back with Shepard.



As we've all said though, I'm glad they scrapped it as it was stupid beyond belief. It conveniently ignored the fact that Liara's sole reason for working as an information broker, a job she clearly hates, is to stop the SB and that she desperately wants to go with Shepard, as she says in the game. Plus, it had Liara stay off the Normandy to read said data, when she could have just as easily read it on the ship and would have had the assistance of an AI.



But really, there's no point discussing it. We're never going to see those audio files in the game, they've been scrapped. Liara's current character arc has been greatly expanded and revised, and we won't get a stupid and contrived reason for her not joining the mission.

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New page, so time for another pic!!

Taken from LD's Liara picture collection:

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Liara's smile. :wub::wub:

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I really don't see where people were getting the "Liara is the next SB" idea from, even with the audio files that have turned out to be trash.

To me, it looks like the original plot device is that Liara would use the data gathered by the recently destroyed SB to try to discover any information that would be any help in the upcoming battle against the Collectors, due to the fact that the SB obviously dealt with them and had contect with them. Meaning that, once the suicide mission is over, Liara is back on the team again.

Also, Liara says in that cut dialogue that most of the SB agents report to her now. What's not to say that she has the SB's despicable agents arrested, but keeps the harmless ones? I'd imagine that she wouldn't want to work with someone like Fist or Nyxeris, but would be happy to have someone like Barla Von report to her. As I said, the original (retarded and stupid, I may add) reason that Liara wouldn't have joined you on the SM is because she wanted to discover any way in which she could help Shep in fighter the Collectors. Once the Collectors have gone, Liara abandons her info broker job and is back with Shepard.

As we've all said though, I'm glad they scrapped it as it was stupid beyond belief. It conveniently ignored the fact that Liara's sole reason for working as an information broker, a job she clearly hates, is to stop the SB and that she desperately wants to go with Shepard, as she says in the game. Plus, it had Liara stay off the Normandy to read said data, when she could have just as easily read it on the ship and would have had the assistance of an AI.

But really, there's no point discussing it. We're never going to see those audio files in the game, they've been scrapped. Liara's current character arc has been greatly expanded and revised, and we won't get a stupid and contrived reason for her not joining the mission.


Quite frankly going by the cut files,she has taken over the SBs position in all but the name and is now going through the data to find out stuff about the collectors,which I doubt will be reused now,that we all know for sure Shepard can beat the Collectors without it.

As for her treatment of the remaining agents thats highly speculative,wasnt there a line where she states she wants to kill them all or at least the most loyal ones remaining,too in the cut files.
I agree though the "I have to read" excuse was just lame,personally I would have turned over the data to EDI since it is faster.
Frankly the whole cut plot was lame since its starts with TIM giving Shepard the SBs location,to give it to Liara,which made me scratch my head why would he do that and not send Shepard right away,I doubt TIM would feel he owes her something for giving the body to Cerberus.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
AI.

But really, there's no point discussing it. We're never going to see those audio files in the game, they've been scrapped. Liara's current character arc has been greatly expanded and revised, and we won't get a stupid and contrived reason for her not joining the mission.


Tim doesn't want her there.....she would be a BIG distraction for Shep.....3 weeks in the captain's quarters with a "Do NOt Disturb" sign on the door.....oh my....maybe 4 weeksImage IPB

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Noxis I think in the cut audio files Liara wanted help in taking out the Observer, because she was still loyal to the Shadow Broker, and obviously it's for her own safety and through self defence. That's all she says with regards to killing any remaining SB agents.



Like we've said though, there's no point in discussing this as it's all trash and has been cut, and thank God it has been too!

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Les ........I'm having a BAD day at work.........I need a pic......PLEASE

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I really don't see where people were getting the "Liara is the next SB" idea from, even with the audio files that have turned out to be trash.

To me, it looks like the original plot device is that Liara would use the data gathered by the recently destroyed SB to try to discover any information that would be any help in the upcoming battle against the Collectors, due to the fact that the SB obviously dealt with them and had contect with them. Meaning that, once the suicide mission is over, Liara is back on the team again.

Also, Liara says in that cut dialogue that most of the SB agents report to her now. What's not to say that she has the SB's despicable agents arrested, but keeps the harmless ones? I'd imagine that she wouldn't want to work with someone like Fist or Nyxeris, but would be happy to have someone like Barla Von report to her. As I said, the original (retarded and stupid, I may add) reason that Liara wouldn't have joined you on the SM is because she wanted to discover any way in which she could help Shep in fighter the Collectors. Once the Collectors have gone, Liara abandons her info broker job and is back with Shepard.

As we've all said though, I'm glad they scrapped it as it was stupid beyond belief. It conveniently ignored the fact that Liara's sole reason for working as an information broker, a job she clearly hates, is to stop the SB and that she desperately wants to go with Shepard, as she says in the game. Plus, it had Liara stay off the Normandy to read said data, when she could have just as easily read it on the ship and would have had the assistance of an AI.

But really, there's no point discussing it. We're never going to see those audio files in the game, they've been scrapped. Liara's current character arc has been greatly expanded and revised, and we won't get a stupid and contrived reason for her not joining the mission.

I didn't mean that that's what I thought was going to happen, I was just using it as an example of BioWare's weird state of mind back then. It would make absolutely no sense, but they were thinking along those lines.
I was saying that it was my fear if the DLC was developed at the same time as ME2, that the Liara story might end in a bad way.
But of course, even just with ME2 coming out before it, they would have had to make changes to the story.
There is pretty much no reason Liara would not come and stay on the Normandy with Shepard anymore, since the Collectors are defeated.
BioWare couldn't have gone with the "I am going to stay here and read" ending no matter what, it would have gotten a lot of people very, very upset.
I was trying to state that I have absolutely no fear about the DLC having a bad ending even if it was created a while ago and we will get what we want, an emotion, substantial, and romantic story.

Go Beautiful Blue Goddess DLC! :wub::wub:<3<3:wub::wub:

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Les ........I'm having a BAD day at work.........I need a pic......PLEASE


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Don't worry, Stubbs! I never meant it in that way, sorry! It was just that you bringing it up gave me a great opportunity to share something I've been thinking about recently, and put my thoughts into words. Sorry man!

Cartims, ask and ye shall receive:

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Liara:wub::wub:

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Just stopping in real quick, helping out the Liara thread. I've got a couple of good screenshots from last nights session in ME1, forgot to post them. You all seem to have plenty of pics though. :)

Have a great day.

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Just stopping in real quick, helping out the Liara thread. I've got a couple of good screenshots from last nights session in ME1, forgot to post them. You all seem to have plenty of pics though. :)
Have a great day.


Sweet, post them if you have the time. We can never get enough pics!! You could also load them up to the fanclub too. :D

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It's all good Les, no harm done. :) I just didn't want you to think I was being negative or anything. I completely believe we will get the Liara DLC we want. 
Nice Liara picture, I could look at The Beautiful Blue Goddess for forever and an eternity! :wub::wub:<3<3:wub::wub:

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Raanz wrote...

Just stopping in real quick, helping out the Liara thread. I've got a couple of good screenshots from last nights session in ME1, forgot to post them. You all seem to have plenty of pics though. :)
Have a great day.


Please post them, Raanz! I love looking at pics of Liara!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Raanz wrote...

Just stopping in real quick, helping out the Liara thread. I've got a couple of good screenshots from last nights session in ME1, forgot to post them. You all seem to have plenty of pics though. :)
Have a great day.


Please post them, Raanz! I love looking at pics of Liara!

That reminds me, ever since I got ME1 for pc I have also been taking plenty of screen shots of her as well.

I will upload them to photobucket, and show some here eventually.:wub:

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Excellent, you can never have too many screenshots of the lovely Liara. :wub:

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Ok, I'll post them when I get home tonight. :)

Here is one I had up on my site already, probably been seen a hundred bazillion times. :)

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Raanz wrote...

Just stopping in real quick, helping out the Liara thread. I've got a couple of good screenshots from last nights session in ME1, forgot to post them. You all seem to have plenty of pics though. :)
Have a great day.


Please post them, Raanz! I love looking at pics of Liara!

That reminds me, ever since I got ME1 for pc I have also been taking plenty of screen shots of her as well.

I will upload them to photobucket, and show some here eventually.:wub:


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Well hello to you too.B)

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Ok, I'll post them when I get home tonight. :)
Here is one I had up on my site already, probably been seen a hundred bazillion times. :)
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Oooh, great pic!:wub:

One of my favourite Liara scenes. The lighting makes her look absolutely beautiful!

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Shameless bump for Liara, the BBG!

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Ok, just chiming in with my realist viewpoint- we are not getting LiLi back on the ship until at least the expansion. But I think we'll get to talk a bit more freely to her - okay, a LOT- and I'll be happy with that.

Oh, and I won't be getting Kasumi til next Friday. Little thing called 'eating' in the way of that. :P

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I agree with that, Jayla. I've never thought that we'd get Liara back on the Normandy after her DLC mission is complete. We'll get to have deep, emotional and intimate discussions and conversations with her, we'll finally be able to comfort and console Liara, and Liara will open her heart to Shepard about her suffering, all the pain she's endured, her guilt and how she did all of this for Shepard. Also, if she's your LI, we'll be able to rekindle the romance, and have a proper romantic reconciliation.



I've always imagined that we'll get the romance exclusive reconciliation scene with LiLi in Shep's cabin on the way back from LiLi's DLC mission. Shep will be sitting alone in her cabin, and Liara will nervously and apprehensively enter, wanting desperately to talk to her lover.



I seriously can't wait for both Redemption #4 tomorrow, and Liara's DLC!



I love the BBG!

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I think if we are getting some huge DA material in early 2011 I do not see why we won't get a huge ME XP in late 2010/early 2011.

I can only hope that it involves a True Blue mission and reconciliation after.

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In honour of the last issue of Redemption being released tomorrow, here's a nice sketch of Liara in a combat pose from the comic that was uploaded to the Liara Fan Club:

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Beautiful, yet deadly.:wub: