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vigna wrote...

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Stop knee jerking everyone. Please.

There is no romance with Feron. Just calm the fcuk down.


But there's no
romance with shep so WTF

I just read the comic...slowly. There is no Feron romance. tops she is guilty that she misjudged feron, but hell he triple crossed her. He did sacrifice himself for Shep and Liara though. She feels guilty for losing Feron, but more she feels she has , indeed, lost Shephard. She thinks he is gone...gone...gone...dead or as good as dead.

When he re-enters her life 2 years later, well, I'm sure she didn't know what to feel.

I'm sure  loving and losing someone is worse than just losing them. She loves Shep, but damn, she can't adjust her emotions or accept them when they see each other again. She tries the kiss, but  the guilt of Feron comes up, the guilt of her wanting to let his body die.

Liara is a bundle of guilt and loss.  liara is a truly decent person--one of the only ones in ME so far. She is troubled , so let her have her time to deal with her emotions. the comic isn't that bad and it doesn't contadict anything that we all hoped for anyway.



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Hey-o guys, I'm a bit behind on the goings-on of issue #4. What happens? Anyone mind giving a short summary? Or, you know... any info at all. :)

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Well I am back.:unsure:

WHY LIARA?!?:crying:


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vigna wrote...

I just read the comic...slowly. There is no Feron romance. tops she is guilty that she misjudged feron, but hell he triple crossed her. He did sacrifice himself for Shep and Liara though. She feels guilty for losing Feron, but more she feels she has , indeed, lost Shephard. She thinks he is gone...gone...gone...dead or as good as dead.

When he re-enters her life 2 years later, well, I'm sure she didn't know what to feel.

I'm sure  loving and losing someone is worse than just losing them. She loves Shep, but damn, she can't adjust her emotions or accept them when they see each other again. She tries the kiss, but  the guilt of Feron comes up, the guilt of her wanting to let his body die.

Liara is a bundle of guilt and loss.  liara is a truly decent person--one of the only ones in ME so far. She is troubled , so let her have her time to deal with her emotions. the comic isn't that bad and it doesn't contadict anything that we all hoped for anyway.


This. For f*ck sake this.

Liara feels the need to rescue Feron because of his sacrifice, not him as a person. It's just the way they have her state it at the end of Redemption, with it's crap writing, makes it seem otherwise.

She breaks off the ****ing kiss because she's afraid Shep will hate her for handing the corpse to Cerberus, and tries to keep her distance. She then ****ing opens her heart, and almost bursts into tears over what happened and her love for Shep, and how she's been guilty for handing the corpse to Cerberus.

Really, it's not that ****ing hard to comprehend, is it?

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So has Liara moved on, and forgotten about the love that She and my Shepard had?:crying:

I stayed faithful to here and everything.:crying:

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If the SB DLC is real hopefully it comes out soon, like Summer or something.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

vigna wrote...

I just read the comic...slowly. There is no Feron romance. tops she is guilty that she misjudged feron, but hell he triple crossed her. He did sacrifice himself for Shep and Liara though. She feels guilty for losing Feron, but more she feels she has , indeed, lost Shephard. She thinks he is gone...gone...gone...dead or as good as dead.

When he re-enters her life 2 years later, well, I'm sure she didn't know what to feel.

I'm sure  loving and losing someone is worse than just losing them. She loves Shep, but damn, she can't adjust her emotions or accept them when they see each other again. She tries the kiss, but  the guilt of Feron comes up, the guilt of her wanting to let his body die.

Liara is a bundle of guilt and loss.  liara is a truly decent person--one of the only ones in ME so far. She is troubled , so let her have her time to deal with her emotions. the comic isn't that bad and it doesn't contadict anything that we all hoped for anyway.


This. For f*ck sake this.

Liara feels the need to rescue Feron because of his sacrifice, not him as a person. It's just the way they have her state it at the end of Redemption, with it's crap writing, makes it seem otherwise.

She breaks off the ****ing kiss because she's afraid Shep will hate her for handing the corpse to Cerberus, and tries to keep her distance. She then ****ing opens her heart, and almost bursts into tears over what happened and her love for Shep, and how she's been guilty for handing the corpse to Cerberus.

Really, it's not that ****ing hard to comprehend, is it?


Les.....calm down, they Fcked up big time in the comic......I hate comics anyway, and I will always LOVE Liara

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

vigna wrote...

I just read the comic...slowly. There is no Feron romance. tops she is guilty that she misjudged feron, but hell he triple crossed her. He did sacrifice himself for Shep and Liara though. She feels guilty for losing Feron, but more she feels she has , indeed, lost Shephard. She thinks he is gone...gone...gone...dead or as good as dead.

When he re-enters her life 2 years later, well, I'm sure she didn't know what to feel.

I'm sure  loving and losing someone is worse than just losing them. She loves Shep, but damn, she can't adjust her emotions or accept them when they see each other again. She tries the kiss, but  the guilt of Feron comes up, the guilt of her wanting to let his body die.

Liara is a bundle of guilt and loss.  liara is a truly decent person--one of the only ones in ME so far. She is troubled , so let her have her time to deal with her emotions. the comic isn't that bad and it doesn't contadict anything that we all hoped for anyway.


This. For f*ck sake this.

Liara feels the need to rescue Feron because of his sacrifice, not him as a person. It's just the way they have her state it at the end of Redemption, with it's crap writing, makes it seem otherwise.

She breaks off the ****ing kiss because she's afraid Shep will hate her for handing the corpse to Cerberus, and tries to keep her distance. She then ****ing opens her heart, and almost bursts into tears over what happened and her love for Shep, and how she's been guilty for handing the corpse to Cerberus.

Really, it's not that ****ing hard to comprehend, is it?

Vigna speaks the truth.

Hey, LET. Calm down. Most should have understood it by now (at least i hope).

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Part of me thinks Liara is still alive because the Shadow Broker sees her as a way to get in touch with Shepard. With the Collectors extinct by ME 2, it seems he would want to quickly reanalyze his alliances. By having Nyxeris just SPY on Liara, he was probably watching for when Shepard returns and eventually seeing how he/she manages to do against his former clients.



I imagine a post-game DLC will revolve around either outright killing him, the duuuh option, or maybe listening to a counteroffer, to Liara's chagrin.

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So has Liara moved on, and forgotten about the love that She and my Shepard had?:crying:

I stayed faithful to here and everything.:crying:


For **** sake NO

Do you not lsiten to what she ****ing says in ME2? Jesus H ****ing Christ.

Its just plain ****ty writing on part of the comic that Liara doesn't disclose her full motives for hunting the SB at the end, and because of this people misconstrue.

I ****ing hate you people who always look for the bad in everything sometimes. You're blinded by your own worst case scenario hypothesis. And when something does come around that needs a little analysing, you won't have it because "OMG THE WORST HAS HAPPENED BLAAAAH"

Wisen up for Christ sake. Liara loves Shepard. Liara feels guilty for handing Shepard to the enemy in Cerberus. Liara doesn't like or trust Feron. Liara appreciates Feron's sacrifice. Liara hunts the Shadow Broker to help heal her emotional pain and guilt. Liara reunites with her lover in Shepard, but is scared to be intimate because she's afraid Shep will hate her. Shep is artificially restricted from comforting Liara and rekindling the romance because they need to maintain the status quo for the DLC.

For god sake.

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Derumiel wrote...

Vigna speaks the truth.

Hey, LET. Calm down. Most should have understood it by now (at least i hope).


We still have a few stragglers that haven't seemed to grasp that concept yet. I have my opinion on the whole mess and I'm staying with Liara. There's got to be a good conclusion to this even if it totally seems out of the question now. BioWare has done a great job with stories so far. Why ruin it for no reason? I'm not letting the opinions of others that don't feel the need to stay faithful get in the way. It's always darkest just before dawn. It's dark now, but dawn will eventually come.

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Lets not forget we were all trying to justify why Liara was acting the way she was during the meeting in Illium with regard to her being too paranoid to talk, the kiss etc. hoping the comic would explain if she was being manipulated or not...well it doesn't seem to have explained anything which leaves me even more confused.

The only thing that makes sense to me is like I said before, Liara had started letting Shep go during those 2 years, as she didn't ever really know if Cerberus could bring her back to life, when they met again it was too much for Liara to deal with, hence breaking off the kiss. Moving on after someone you love death is hard enough, being confronted with them again after 2 years? I don't know...a believable continuation of this romance seems unlikely, really don't know how it's going to be handled.

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Incorrect, if I remember correctly.  They said there would be a conclusion to the romances in ME3.  Having a side mission to save Feron and watch him and Liara ride off into the sunset or having her turn into Darth Shadow Broker and try to kill you would certainly be a conclusion to the romance.


Here's the (in)famous quote again:

In Mass Effect, as a female Commander Shepard you could have a romance with the female-looking yet asexual asari, Liara. That love story will continue into Mass Effect 2 (and Mass Effect 3) if you had started it in the first game, though things will be a bit rocky between you this time around because you’ve been away for two years. You’ll be able to conclude that story with Liara in Mass Effect 3, though keep in mind that your romances in Mass Effect 3 will have an impact on how that plays out."

http://www.destructo...ns-163035.phtml

And, perhaps more importantly:

Because we wanted to make sure the love interest can remain an important and integral part of the story, we want that to continue into the third game. We have some really important things we want to resolve there. That means we can't have these characters that were your love interests in this suicide mission potentially getting killed and then blocking off that opportunity. They're part of the story. They're part of the ongoing love story but they're not your squad members so that we can be sure that we can bring that love story to its conclusion

http://uk.xbox360.ig.../1055366p2.html

Granted, most of what we can verify so far has turned out to be half-truths or outright lies. My trust in BioWare/EA is long gone. Still, as of yet, that's the official line. All is not lost.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 07 avril 2010 - 05:40 .


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frij wrote...

Lets not forget we were all trying to justify why Liara was acting the way she was during the meeting in Illium with regard to her being too paranoid to talk, the kiss etc. hoping the comic would explain if she was being manipulated or not...well it doesn't seem to have explained anything which leaves me even more confused.
The only thing that makes sense to me is like I said before, Liara had started letting Shep go during those 2 years, as she didn't ever really know if Cerberus could bring her back to life, when they met again it was too much for Liara to deal with, hence breaking off the kiss. Moving on after someone you love death is hard enough, being confronted with them again after 2 years? I don't know...a believable continuation of this romance seems unlikely, really don't know how it's going to be handled.


I think the conclusion for ALL the ME 1 romances will involve a period of falling in love all over again with the person, meaning new conversations and opportunities.  Ashley/Kaiden/Liara had learned to live without Shepard and bam he/she is back.

The question then revolves around Shepard.  Give the old flames a chance, despite their apparent indifference or stick with those who you met in ME 2, who also have proven their loyalty by following you into death itself.  Tough choices for the Commander.

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Thanks for posting that B. People need to realize this isn't the end.

Modifié par justinnstuff, 07 avril 2010 - 05:38 .


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justinnstuff wrote...
It's always darkest just before dawn. It's dark now, but dawn will eventually come.


Some optimism is always good to see.
And good post bjdbwea!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

For **** sake NO

Do you not lsiten to what she ****ing says in ME2? Jesus H ****ing Christ.

Its just plain ****ty writing on part of the comic that Liara doesn't disclose her full motives for hunting the SB at the end, and because of this people misconstrue.

I ****ing hate you people who always look for the bad in everything sometimes. You're blinded by your own worst case scenario hypothesis. And when something does come around that needs a little analysing, you won't have it because "OMG THE WORST HAS HAPPENED BLAAAAH"

Wisen up for Christ sake. Liara loves Shepard. Liara feels guilty for handing Shepard to the enemy in Cerberus. Liara doesn't like or trust Feron. Liara appreciates Feron's sacrifice. Liara hunts the Shadow Broker to help heal her emotional pain and guilt. Liara reunites with her lover in Shepard, but is scared to be intimate because she's afraid Shep will hate her. Shep is artificially restricted from comforting Liara and rekindling the romance because they need to maintain the status quo for the DLC.

For god sake.

The whole ME2 reunion with her contradicts the comic though.

She couldnt let me go yet she tells Miranda to move on?

I dont know what to think anymore.:mellow:
Regardless though I will still always love Liara no matter what.

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Now that I think of it, it won't be that hard to choose considering ALL of my female saves are loyal. I either stick with Liara or choose the "I am bitter, DIE ALONE FOREVER OPTION". The latter plays well into a renegade sort of movie, where I ride off alone into the sunset on a motorcycle, a rebel without a cause.

I think I need to enlist Jack to give my character a rough looking tattoo...

Modifié par screwoffreg, 07 avril 2010 - 05:41 .


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screwoffreg wrote...

frij wrote...

Lets not forget we were all trying to justify why Liara was acting the way she was during the meeting in Illium with regard to her being too paranoid to talk, the kiss etc. hoping the comic would explain if she was being manipulated or not...well it doesn't seem to have explained anything which leaves me even more confused.
The only thing that makes sense to me is like I said before, Liara had started letting Shep go during those 2 years, as she didn't ever really know if Cerberus could bring her back to life, when they met again it was too much for Liara to deal with, hence breaking off the kiss. Moving on after someone you love death is hard enough, being confronted with them again after 2 years? I don't know...a believable continuation of this romance seems unlikely, really don't know how it's going to be handled.


I think the conclusion for ALL the ME 1 romances will involve a period of falling in love all over again with the person, meaning new conversations and opportunities.  Ashley/Kaiden/Liara had learned to live without Shepard and bam he/she is back.

The question then revolves around Shepard.  Give the old flames a chance, despite their apparent indifference or stick with those who you met in ME 2, who also have proven their loyalty by following you into death itself.  Tough choices for the Commander.


Seems the most likely scenario, starting every ME1 LI on a new slate, I hope we get a bit extra for sticking with Liara throughout, but hey I'm not going to get my hopes up

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bjdbwea wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

Incorrect, if I remember correctly.  They said there would be a conclusion to the romances in ME3.  Having a side mission to save Feron and watch him and Liara ride off into the sunset or having her turn into Darth Shadow Broker and try to kill you would certainly be a conclusion to the romance.


Here's the (in)famous quote again:


In Mass Effect, as a female Commander Shepard you could have a romance with the female-looking yet asexual asari, Liara. That love story will continue into Mass Effect 2 (and Mass Effect 3) if you had started it in the first game, though things will be a bit rocky between you this time around because you’ve been away for two years. You’ll be able to conclude that story with Liara in Mass Effect 3, though keep in mind that your romances in Mass Effect 3 will have an impact on how that plays out."

http://www.destructo...ns-163035.phtml

And, perhaps more importantly:


Because we wanted to make sure the love interest can remain an important and integral part of the story, we want that to continue into the third game. We have some really important things we want to resolve there. That means we can't have these characters that were your love interests in this suicide mission potentially getting killed and then blocking off that opportunity. They're part of the story. They're part of the ongoing love story but they're not your squad members so that we can be sure that we can bring that love story to its conclusion

http://uk.xbox360.ig.../1055366p2.html

Granted, most of what we can verify so far has turned out to be half-truths or outright lies. My trust in BioWare/EA is long gone. Still, as of yet, that's the official line. All is not lost.


Ok, going on that bases then Garrus and Tali are toast Image IPB

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I may not be as vocal as I am with Kaidan, but Liara is dear to me too so I feel your pain, guys.

Still I'll always go by the mantra of the games > external media, and if the external media contradicts the games, then the external media is wrong. The end!

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Ok, going on that bases then Garrus and Tali are toast Image IPB


Nuuuuuuuu, no toasting Garrus!!

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I made the major mistake of romancing Kaiden in me1 , but i still imported the save to me2 , But i am repaying & romancing Liara & being cold to the rest of the squad >.< ..

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The Angry One wrote...

I may not be as vocal as I am with Kaidan, but Liara is dear to me too so I feel your pain, guys.
Still I'll always go by the mantra of the games > external media, and if the external media contradicts the games, then the external media is wrong. The end!


This is the first time I've ever liked a franchise in gaming outside of the game itself. I like this mantra. I'm going to adopt it. :P