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If everybody here is annnoyed enough by one character being misinterpreted to refuse to buy any more ME content, then they're not a real fan. Believe it or not, the game does not revolve around Liara...

However, this was pretty poor writing, especially the "let him go" contradicting "I couldn't let you go," and the Feron relationship. Maybe I'm not as closely affected, as I didn't import any of my files with a Liara romance (one got deleted, that was the only one with her as an LI) so I didn't have to endure her whole rejection and such?

This does put me off ever romancing her again, though. (Just to clarify, I have read the comic)

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Just fired this note off to Bioware. Maybe we should open the floodgates to their email and let them know how we feel!!


To Whom It May Concern


Don't really know if this will be seen by anyone important... don't know if anyone will care either.

After ME2 and the comic series ending... people are bailing on Bioware and the Mass Effect series as a whole in droves. The outrage over how the entire Liara T'soni plotline was dealt with is... to be pleasant... out of control. There is no continuity or reasoning behind her actions in the comics and then in the game. Regardless of what is planned for Liara in the future... some sort of acknowledgement by Bioware as to what their intentions are would probably save a mass exodus from the game of many of the ME1 fans who have been faithful since day one. Hint: Check the Liara thread on the forums if you doubt me.

Just a thought on what you might do to save the series in case you are wondering.

Thanks for your time.


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Great.......not that they give a flying rats ass!

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When I first played ME2, I cheated on Liara just for the Paramour achievement. I'm the type of person who likes to get achievements ASAP, so yeah. I have since deleted that save, though. Wish I could have done that with the save where I had Kaidan as my LI. >_<

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darknoon5 wrote...

If everybody here is annnoyed enough by one character being misinterpreted to refuse to buy any more ME content, then they're not a real fan. Believe it or not, the game does not revolve around Liara...
However, this was pretty poor writing, especially the "let him go" contradicting "I couldn't let you go," and the Feron relationship. Maybe I'm not as closely affected, as I didn't import any of my files with a Liara romance (one got deleted, that was the only one with her as an LI) so I didn't have to endure her whole rejection and such?
This does put me off ever romancing her again, though. (Just to clarify, I have read the comic)


With Kasumi now ready, I pretty much need to get all my save games to after the Collector Base decision and I am ready for whatever post-game DLC comes out or if there is substantive stuff to take care of (Like Shadow Broker DLC).

I don't have a solid Tali romance one, so I need to play one more game with that (my adept playthrough SUCKS).  Other than that, I have Miranda, Liara (one cheated, two loyal), an eventual Tali and maybe a Jack.

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darknoon5 wrote...

If everybody here is annnoyed enough by one character being misinterpreted to refuse to buy any more ME content,


Not everyone here.Image IPB

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Must go back to work now (eek) need to make enough money to buy BW and FIRE all the writers.



See u later.

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 Haha! Sorry to scare people with the harbinger romance dialogue. I couldn't contain myself =]


The harbinger romance thing is lurking in various threads here, especially in the Tali face threads.^_^


Hmm, I haven't seen it before. I love the Tali's face thread though. I'm surprised I didn't run by it.

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darknoon5 wrote...

If everybody here is annnoyed enough by one character being misinterpreted to refuse to buy any more ME content, then they're not a real fan. Believe it or not, the game does not revolve around Liara...
However, this was pretty poor writing, especially the "let him go" contradicting "I couldn't let you go," and the Feron relationship. Maybe I'm not as closely affected, as I didn't import any of my files with a Liara romance (one got deleted, that was the only one with her as an LI) so I didn't have to endure her whole rejection and such?
This does put me off ever romancing her again, though. (Just to clarify, I have read the comic)


There is no Feron relationship though. People are just misconstruing the crap writing at the end of the comic, when she doesn't state her full motives for going after the Shadow Broker and only mentions Feron, and the scene in which Liara says, in a round about way, "Actions speak louder than words" when Feron tells her that he genuinely wanted to help her find Shepard. People are just jealous, that's all. I mean, Liara doesn't even like him, that much is obvious from Redemption, and is only hunting him because of his sacrifice, not because of Feron himself.

Where people are getting this Feron romance from I don't know.

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Seems I'm a bit late to the party,well for me the comic was,how did Wrex put it in ME2 "Better then I hoped,worse then I feared.

Honestly at times I think a monkey chained to typewriter could have done better.

No suprises,not that there were any to expect,but also zero explaination for why Liara is how she is in ME2 and I guess the cheaters seem to have got another reason to feel what they did was legit or whatever,all in all the last Issue was weak and gives me not a lot of hope for DLC.



But one positive thing I might add I doubt Feron survives this no one interrogates people for two years



Well just throwing my thoughts out there

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Yeah, I pretty much think Feron is long gone unless the Shadow Broker REALLY wants to make a deal. It begs the question why he hasn't offered so far (cuz they have to charge for the DLC, lol).

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

If everybody here is annnoyed enough by one character being misinterpreted to refuse to buy any more ME content, then they're not a real fan. Believe it or not, the game does not revolve around Liara...
However, this was pretty poor writing, especially the "let him go" contradicting "I couldn't let you go," and the Feron relationship. Maybe I'm not as closely affected, as I didn't import any of my files with a Liara romance (one got deleted, that was the only one with her as an LI) so I didn't have to endure her whole rejection and such?
This does put me off ever romancing her again, though. (Just to clarify, I have read the comic)


There is no Feron relationship though. People are just misconstruing the crap writing at the end of the comic, when she doesn't state her full motives for going after the Shadow Broker and only mentions Feron, and the scene in which Liara says, in a round about way, "Actions speak louder than words" when Feron tells her that he genuinely wanted to help her find Shepard. People are just jealous, that's all. I mean, Liara doesn't even like him, that much is obvious from Redemption, and is only hunting him because of his sacrifice, not because of Feron himself.

Where people are getting this Feron romance from I don't know.


Although Feron is a triple agent, Shepard wouldn't be alive if he didn't help Liara retrieve the corpse and sacrifice himself for the good of the mission. I won't mind trying to help Liara on a mission to repay her debts. How many times have I stuck my face in a pile of danger for other squadmates? Liara deserves it too. Not to mention the reapers are stuck in dark space without the citadel being activated. It's not like they're banging on the door tomorrow morning.

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The Reapers are probably closer than most people realize... They have more agents everywhere and the Kasumi DLC hints that even the Alliance might be corrupted...

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darknoon5 wrote...

If everybody here is annnoyed enough by one character being misinterpreted to refuse to buy any more ME content, then they're not a real fan.


What's that even supposed to mean? "Real" fan of what? If you mean being a fan of "Mass Effect", then that's actually nothing more than the sum of many parts, some more important, some less so. Different for everyone. How would you feel if one of the parts that are most important to you are trashed, like say your favourite character? You of course got everything you could want this time and are very happy, but surely it's not hard to imagine how you would feel.

But rest assured that a lof of other things in ME 2 annoyed me too, so don't worry, my decision not to buy any more ME content will not be based on Liara alone.

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Oh, and I guess you missed the part where Liara abandons Feron's life for a chance to possibly ressurect Shepard's carcass?



Yeah, she clearly cares for Feron more than Shepard.



Honestly. Think people.

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The Reapers are probably closer than most people realize... They have more agents everywhere and the Kasumi DLC hints that even the Alliance might be corrupted...


I think that evidence connects Cerberus to the alliance, but then again wasn't there a picture of a reaper on the datapad when that evidence was brought up in the DLC? This may be more troublesome than I thought. I really hope BioWare doesn't Deus Ex Machina this series. That will make baby jesus cry.

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justinnstuff wrote...

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 Haha! Sorry to scare people with the harbinger romance dialogue. I couldn't contain myself =]


The harbinger romance thing is lurking in various threads here, especially in the Tali face threads.^_^


Hmm, I haven't seen it before. I love the Tali's face thread though. I'm surprised I didn't run by it.




Here's a good one!:)


I have read through this thread here, I can't wait to get a look at Redemption 4, I didn't look in the group however where it is summarized. I wanted so read it by myself before I get involved into discussions but since I saw the reactions here I have been really doubting that I will like it.

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This may just be BWs way of building up momentum for ME3 or ME2 DLC/XP. Let's face it, anything that involves Liara or Kaidan/Ash will have 40-50 percent of ME fans frothing at the mouth.



I anticipate nothing will be meaningful until ME3 though, especially after seeing those developer quotes from B.



Now it appears ME3 will be an even longer wait for loyalists.

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justinnstuff wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

The Reapers are probably closer than most people realize... They have more agents everywhere and the Kasumi DLC hints that even the Alliance might be corrupted...


I think that evidence connects Cerberus to the alliance, but then again wasn't there a picture of a reaper on the datapad when that evidence was brought up in the DLC? This may be more troublesome than I thought. I really hope BioWare doesn't Deus Ex Machina this series. That will make baby jesus cry.


There is nothing new under the sun, as the Bible says, and most stories are derivative anyway.  ME takes from a lot of other sci-fi and gives it a spin.

In Babylon 5, there were the "Shadows", black sentient ships that looked like spiders instead of squids.  They infiltrated the Eart Alliance (lol coincidence?) and eventually the humans became their pawns.  I wouldn't be surprised if this is what happens in ME 3.  Indoctrination is a powerful tool of the Reapers...

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vigna wrote...

This may just be BWs way of building up momentum for ME3 or ME2 DLC/XP. Let's face it, anything that involves Liara or Kaidan/Ash will have 40-50 percent of ME fans frothing at the mouth.

I anticipate nothing will be meaningful until ME3 though, especially after seeing those developer quotes from B.

Now it appears ME3 will be an even longer wait for loyalists.


Yeah, that is why I call it the Shadow Broker DLC that is coming out hopefully soon.  Liara will be involved, but I think it will end with her going back to Illium to do her thing until ME 3.  I am not holding out hope that the romance will be covered in great detail.

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Oh, and I guess you missed the part where Liara abandons Feron's life for a chance to possibly ressurect Shepard's carcass?

Yeah, she clearly cares for Feron more than Shepard.

Honestly. Think people.


wait, how does that make sense? if she  abandon's feron's life for a chance to resurrecet sherpard's body doesn't that mean she'd care for shepard more?

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I still <3 Liara, but they did a sh*tty job with the comics conclusion IMO.

I just hope this is made up for later, and that we can see our relationship with her.

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There is nothing new under the sun, as the Bible says, and most stories are derivative anyway.  ME takes from a lot of other sci-fi and gives it a spin.

In Babylon 5, there were the "Shadows", black sentient ships that looked like spiders instead of squids.  They infiltrated the Eart Alliance (lol coincidence?) and eventually the humans became their pawns.  I wouldn't be surprised if this is what happens in ME 3.  Indoctrination is a powerful tool of the Reapers...


Makes sense. I think ME will have a spin on that concept. We aren't pawns when they're turning us into smoothies. Same concept though. You aren't the first person that's suggested something about tying Babylon 5 into ME. I've never seen the series so I wouldn't be able to piece this together. Either way, I'm still a fan and I am going to wait until the xpac and ME3 to make my final decision on whether ME was awesome or not.

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wait, how does that make sense? if she  abandon's feron's life for a chance to resurrecet sherpard's body doesn't that mean she'd care for shepard more?


That's the point I was trying to make. I was being sarcastic. :P

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Feron's "sacrifice" wasn't nearly as sad as Gandalf's "Run...you fools!" Now thats a sacrifice...

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

surf_N7 wrote...


wait, how does that make sense? if she  abandon's feron's life for a chance to resurrecet sherpard's body doesn't that mean she'd care for shepard more?


That's the point I was trying to make. I was being sarcastic. :P


mean!!  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]  suck for me... but good knowing you were sarcastic. i was a little worried there.