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Regarding the comic; on the plus side... Uhh... She wears the labcoat again..?

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Wait... that's supposed to be Liara? Seriously, the drawing is bad. There are lots of fan art that look better and, more importantly, like the Liara from the game. Again I have to ask: The botched the in-game content for this?! <_<


YES.....mindless idiots. They did it for the kiddie money.

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@justinnstuff...........Thanks for that, my only problem is now is getting a new Xbox 360 thats $300

I haven't completely read redemption yet because I was waiting for #4 to come out. so I didn't read to much of what you linked to


Can't you just return your xbox for repair? I didn't think RROD meant a new one. Unless you modded the case and broke that seal.


Yep I broke the damn seal because I put extra powerful fans in it to prevent the RRoD FROM happening and it Still RRoD, so EVERYONE LEARN FROM MY DUMB ASS MISTAKE!:pinched:

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Marcin R wrote...

i found this on ME market sub-page "Graphic Novel:
Coming June 2010, the Mass Effect graphic novel includes Redemption issues 1-4."
guess will it be Liara-centric too?

Yeah, that's the Redemption graphic novel.  I have it pre-ordered, but I'm probably going to cancel it.

Graphic novels sometimes have "exclusive" content, though.  Maybe they will write an epilogue to fix the damage issue 4 made.  Probably not, but there's always a chance.

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Wait... that's supposed to be Liara? Seriously, the drawing is bad. There are lots of fan art that look better and, more importantly, like the Liara from the game. Again I have to ask: The botched the in-game content for this?! <_<


I've spent far too long raging out about the awful drawings, trust me. <_<

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compare this:
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with this:
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guess i don't have to tell what is waay better....
-EDIT-update: yes i just got issue 4

Modifié par Marcin R, 09 avril 2010 - 01:51 .


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Marcin R wrote...

i found this on ME market sub-page "Graphic Novel:
Coming June 2010, the Mass Effect graphic novel includes Redemption issues 1-4."
guess will it be Liara-centric too?

Yeah, that's the Redemption graphic novel.  I have it pre-ordered, but I'm probably going to cancel it.

Graphic novels sometimes have "exclusive" content, though.  Maybe they will write an epilogue to fix the damage issue 4 made.  Probably not, but there's always a chance.


Interesting. Well, whatever you find just let us know what you find. I doubt many people will be ordering it at this rate.

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Off-topic: That's your chance to upgrade your PC. Doesn't have to cost you more than a new console.

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ratzerman wrote...

Marcin R wrote...

i found this on ME market sub-page "Graphic Novel:
Coming June 2010, the Mass Effect graphic novel includes Redemption issues 1-4."
guess will it be Liara-centric too?

Yeah, that's the Redemption graphic novel.  I have it pre-ordered, but I'm probably going to cancel it.

Graphic novels sometimes have "exclusive" content, though.  Maybe they will write an epilogue to fix the damage issue 4 made.  Probably not, but there's always a chance.


Screw them, They messed up Liara enough already.......no more kiddie crap for me, I'll stick to in game content from now on....

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I'm debating whether to keep the Redemption compilation preordered too. They onlt thing that's stopping me from cancelling at the moment is because apparently there is exclusive content, namely behind the scenes sketches and the like. Whether there will be a different epilogue I don't know, but you can always hope.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I'm debating whether to keep the Redemption compilation preordered too. They onlt thing that's stopping me from cancelling at the moment is because apparently there is exclusive content, namely behind the scenes sketches and the like. Whether there will be a different epilogue I don't know, but you can always hope.


Ooh behind the scenes sketches, now we can see how to draw Liara like a pro! /sarcasm

I'd wait until it's released, I doubt you'll have trouble getting hold of a copy if it did turn out to have an improved epilogue.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I'm debating whether to keep the Redemption compilation preordered too. They onlt thing that's stopping me from cancelling at the moment is because apparently there is exclusive content, namely behind the scenes sketches and the like. Whether there will be a different epilogue I don't know, but you can always hope.

hoe is only thing we cannot ever lose, so have faith LES, have faith and stay optimistic :)

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Marcin R wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I'm debating whether to keep the Redemption compilation preordered too. They onlt thing that's stopping me from cancelling at the moment is because apparently there is exclusive content, namely behind the scenes sketches and the like. Whether there will be a different epilogue I don't know, but you can always hope.

hoe is only thing we cannot ever lose, so have faith LES, have faith and stay optimistic :)



yeah, a hoe is real hard to lose....especially if you're a good tipper.Image IPB

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Marcin R wrote...

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I'm debating whether to keep the Redemption compilation preordered too. They onlt thing that's stopping me from cancelling at the moment is because apparently there is exclusive content, namely behind the scenes sketches and the like. Whether there will be a different epilogue I don't know, but you can always hope.

hope is only thing we cannot ever lose, so have faith LES, have faith and stay optimistic :)


Fixed that for ya Marcin. That was a very unfortunate typo :P

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justinnstuff wrote...

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I'm debating whether to keep the Redemption compilation preordered too. They onlt thing that's stopping me from cancelling at the moment is because apparently there is exclusive content, namely behind the scenes sketches and the like. Whether there will be a different epilogue I don't know, but you can always hope.

hope is only thing we cannot ever lose, so have faith LES, have faith and stay optimistic :)


Fixed that for ya Marcin. That was a very unfortunate typo :P


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morrie23 wrote...

I'd wait until it's released, I doubt you'll have trouble getting hold of a copy if it did turn out to have an improved epilogue.


A wise approach. And even if sold out, new prints will be available sooner or later. Basic principle of capitalism.

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@justinnstuff...........Thanks for that, my only problem is now is getting a new Xbox 360 thats $300

I haven't completely read redemption yet because I was waiting for #4 to come out. so I didn't read to much of what you linked to


Mine got the red ring right before DA came out. I also needed to play ME1 again before ME2 came out. I shipped off my Xbox for repair and then bought another one the next day.

On the plus side I now have 2 Xboxes.:pinched:

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justinnstuff wrote...
Fixed that for ya Marcin. That was a very unfortunate typo :P

thanks very much, OMG i haven't noticed that misspell, my keyboard got stuck for a second, strong thanks for correction:)

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Voted for you Marcin! I like her best when she's on the Normandy, wearing her labcoat attire. It's cute, it's intellectual and it's just so Liara. She looks really good in it!

i've chosen this option myself:):)


I voted for the Prothean bubble. Our first introduction always sticks with me.

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"I gave you to them, Shepard. Because they said they could rebuild you."



Now, that says to me, especially the bolded part, that the sole reason Liara terfed the corpse over to Cerberus really was to get Shepard back, bring him/her back to life. That's the only reason she's given the body up to Cerberus, to get Shepard back to life again and rebuilt.



"When I gave you to Cerberus, I told myself I was doing it for you, for a chance to bring you back."



Here we have Liara lying to herself, telling herself that she's doing it in Shepard's interests, and not her own selfish desire to see Shepard rebuilt and revived, and brought back to her. She's trying to soothe her own guilty conscience, by pretending that she's only doing it for Shepard alone, and not for herself.



"But I knew Cerberus would use you for their own interests, and I let that happen, because I couldn't let you go. I'm sorry."



Here we see Liara admitting to herself that it was her own selfish desire to see Shepard rebuilt, and revealing her guilt for what she's done. She says "I couldn't let you go" because she really did want Shepard back and rebuilt, and didn't move on from Shepard at all. She wasn't looking for closure, but she wanted Shepard restored back to life, because she couldn't bare to face Shep's death. She hasn't moved on from Shepard as scmadsen feared yesterday, far from it. She's been hating herself for two years over handing her lover's body over to th enemy for her own selfish desire to see him/her rebuilt, and because she couldn't let Shep go. She's been haunted by her guilt, and living in fear that when Shep does come back he/she will hate her. She's had all of these emotions eating away at her, due to her love for Shep.



What's incredibly frustrating is due to the phrasing and scripting in the comic, it's so easy to misconstrue if you ignore what is said in-game, which I've just broken down here. So many people are going to misread Liara, make assumptions about her, smear her with baseless accusations because of a colossal fcuk up with the scripting in the comic. I hate it, and can only hope that the DLC or something rectifys this.

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guys just want to share an idea I can see happening in the 3rd game if you look at the start of 2 where you order your LI to get off the ship before you die anyone else thinking we could see us having to sacrifice ourselves to beat the reapers and the LI you are not leaving me this time and goes with you



I just dont see a happy ending of shepard and liara or who ever living happy ever after

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Off-topic: That's your chance to upgrade your PC. Doesn't have to cost you more than a new console.


I can't because I don't like Desktops I only like Laptop because of the mobility which a gaming Laptop would hit me around $2000 and I can't afford that :( So I'm buying a Xbox 360 Elite.

it's been a week and I haven't been able to see Liara in ME:crying: I'm gonna crack if I don't get my fix soon

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guys just want to share an idea I can see happening in the 3rd game if you look at the start of 2 where you order your LI to get off the ship before you die anyone else thinking we could see us having to sacrifice ourselves to beat the reapers and the LI you are not leaving me this time and goes with you

I just dont see a happy ending of shepard and liara or who ever living happy ever after


An ending where Shepard has to make the big sacrifice is something I fear too. It seems almost too convenient for BioWare/EA to let it pass. No worries about "wasting" time on different endings, no worries about any canon for future titles. Letting the LI go too would seem logical from that standpoint. I probably wouldn't buy the game if such was the only possible ending, but the masses would, no illusions there. (Maybe they'd provide one different ending, for Shepards who romanced Tali, just to be safe.)

Modifié par bjdbwea, 09 avril 2010 - 02:34 .


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Mass Effect is all about choices, is what BW always says. I don't think BW would put in only one possible ending. That would just be **** and BW has to know that.

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Morning everybody, I said I'd check back today and I did. And I was very glad to see that people were joking before In hind sight, the extremity of some of the things said shoud have tipped me off, I blame it on not being able to read tone-of-voice in text.

So yeah, I'm back and won't be leaving my favorite thread. And since this thread didn't sink to the low I thought it had last night (and since Les used the word "facetious") I think I'll post the latest WIP preview image for my current artowork. Image IPB

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Now this is still an early Work In Progress image, I'm really easing this piece along, I want it to be as good as it can. The colors for Liara's crest alone takes up six layers and I'm still not quite done with it. And do not fear; I do have a background laid out. Granted, it's not the most original of backgrounds, but it's better than those little gray boxes.

Oh yeah, and thanks to that little discussion a little bit back, now I'm imagining Liara and Shepard coming out on a tank, in full Degeneration-X attire. Shepard would be Triple H and Liara would be Shawn Micheals, y'know, with the hat. Especially the hat.

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 That looks awesome Indigo!! Nice work so far. I'm really looking forward to the final product :D