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Ah yes, I almost forgot.

This is the fate that awaits all those who are disloyal to Liara in Mass Effect 2:

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How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.



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Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


hm...the only ones they'd have to something for at the moment are the ME1-LI's, especially Liara of course ^^
That said, they already left Ashley and Kaidan out in the Kasumi DLC, why not in the Liara DLC, too :P

I know I know...it's selfish, but...I can't help it. I'd totally go for a ME1-LI DLC, but if I'd have to choose between a Liara DLC (with Ash/Kaidan fans flaming) and no DLC at all, I'd choose the Liara DLC. It should also meet my expectations, of course ^_^

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Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


if you think about it they cut a ton of stuff from the game with the comics being made the whole legion helping liara find your body and staking you from the start of the game so much so the game where liara is concerned does not make that much sense

if they are smart they should do a liara dlc I can see one dealing with liara and one that shows the 2 years you were dead and what happened to ash/kaidan

I would love to see one that starts when you die and goes till you're body is found just to fill in the 2 year gap

Modifié par wolf99000, 12 avril 2010 - 03:36 .


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Systemlord Baal wrote...

Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


hm...the only ones they'd have to something for at the moment are the ME1-LI's, especially Liara of course ^^
That said, they already left Ashley and Kaidan out in the Kasumi DLC, why not in the Liara DLC, too :P

I know I know...it's selfish, but...I can't help it. I'd totally go for a ME1-LI DLC, but if I'd have to choose between a Liara DLC (with Ash/Kaidan fans flaming) and no DLC at all, I'd choose the Liara DLC. It should also meet my expectations, of course ^_^


What do you mean they already left Ash and Kaidan out of Kasumi's DLC?

I know how much Liara plays into the overall plot, searching, finding and giving Shepard's body to Cerberous through the comic, she's been in Shepard's head and helped em along the way in ME1, but all those can be done platonicly.

I'm not saying she's not important to the whole story cause she is, but I'm not convinced Biowaste would or could do a DLC for romance without tossing Ashely/Kaidan LI's into it without creating a backlash of complaints, she's already been cameo'd in a different setting then the other two, and she has the comic, Biowaste can just say that will do for now.

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Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


If anything, it will be a Shadow Broker DLC, in which case they can't really not include Liara.  We mightn't get what we want, but she kinda has to be there.

Modifié par Eddie-Hawke, 12 avril 2010 - 03:42 .


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IndigoWolfe wrote...

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there should be option in Kasumi DLC to ask [paragon] or force [renegade] her to hack into Liara's computer and fabricate data that SB is out of the game or produce other hoax to lure Liara onto Normandy....
If she could fabricate Shep's identity as a criminal boss then it wouldn't be a challenge for her, especially that she owes Shep for letting her keep the graybox so...
it's time to do some shady things and get LiLi and Shep back together...Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB


And leave her vulnerable when the Shadow Broker finally comes after her? Why would I want that? Image IPB

hello, SB would get her ON THE NORMANDY WITH SHEP???!!!!

Modifié par Marcin R, 12 avril 2010 - 03:45 .


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Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


Well... BioWare/EA don't care about what people write on their forums. The loudest screamers already got all they wanted. I doubt they would suddenly pay any attention to complaints from the (relatively) few fans of the ME 1 LIs around here. Besides, it's money above everything else. If someone decides that a DLC featuring Liara is the most commercially viable thing for the developers to spend their time on, then it will be done, and screw everyone who isn't happy about it. Exactly what happened to us this time.

That said, I don't think that they think a Liara DLC would be the best thing to do, and therefore it will either not happen at all, or it will be cheap and quick pew-pew without much or any consideration for the relationship.

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Marcin R wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Marcin R wrote...

there should be option in Kasumi DLC to ask [paragon] or force [renegade] her to hack into Liara's computer and fabricate data that SB is out of the game or produce other hoax to lure Liara onto Normandy....
If she could fabricate Shep's identity as a criminal boss then it wouldn't be a challenge for her, especially that she owes Shep for letting her keep the graybox so...
it's time to do some shady things and get LiLi and Shep back together...Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB


And leave her vulnerable when the Shadow Broker finally comes after her? Why would I want that? Image IPB

hello, ON THE NORMANDY WITH SHEP???!!!!


This. :lol:

What is the Shadow Broker gonna do, fight the Normandy?  Did he not see the hardcore group of crazy you recruited?

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Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


I think we will get something that can be considered 'Liara DLC' before ME3, but it could end up being a short mission involving the rescue of Feron. Liara might be a temporary squadie, but then goes back to Illium after the rescue. If there was romantic content I'd wager it would be small. However, BioWare could release a larger DLC aka expansion pack (all semantics really) that could have content for Liara and the other ME1 LIs. Regardless, BioWare would have to take a lot into account if they did have romantic content for the ME1 LIs in any future DLCs, especially if its after the suicide mission and you cheated.

But I'm with Baal, given the choice I'd always go for Liara DLC sans Ash/Kaidan than no DLC at all.

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What do you mean they already left Ash and Kaidan out of Kasumi's DLC?


Kasumi has these "I acknowledge your LI with a sentense about them and what I think about them" - lines. Everyone gets one, some more than one depending on the current relationship status. Liara is the only ME1-LI however who gets a line. Ashley and Kaidan are not mentioned and there are no audio-files about them, aswell.

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Eddie-Hawke wrote...

Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


If anything, it will be a Shadow Broker DLC, in which case they can't really not include Liara.  We mightn't get what we want, but she kinda has to be there.


Liara will be in anything dealing with the SB, but I don't expect ANY significant movement on the romance front, perhaps just an acknowledgement. 

I imagine by this time next year, hopefully halfway to ME 3 if it is to come out in late 2011/early 2012, we will have an expansion or larger DLC of some kind which will bridge ME 2 to ME 3.  In this case, I think we will see more substantial progress when it comes to romances, at least setting the stage for the final game...

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screwoffreg wrote...

Eddie-Hawke wrote...

Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


If anything, it will be a Shadow Broker DLC, in which case they can't really not include Liara.  We mightn't get what we want, but she kinda has to be there.


Liara will be in anything dealing with the SB, but I don't expect ANY significant movement on the romance front, perhaps just an acknowledgement. 

I imagine by this time next year, hopefully halfway to ME 3 if it is to come out in late 2011/early 2012, we will have an expansion or larger DLC of some kind which will bridge ME 2 to ME 3.  In this case, I think we will see more substantial progress when it comes to romances, at least setting the stage for the final game...


My hopes for this DLC aren't going anywhere past a line or two of extra dialogue.  And chances are it will only be a subtle mention of your relationship.

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they will not deal with the SB till me3 if you ask me I have feeling it is a reaper and not a person plus it would play out better as part of a full game and not a short dlc

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Eddie-Hawke wrote...

Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


If anything, it will be a Shadow Broker DLC, in which case they can't really not include Liara.  We mightn't get what we want, but she kinda has to be there.


I can see a SB DLC to a degree, but that may well have been all there was for ME2 on that topic, although all that information Thane was suppose to have captured/downloaded might spark a sub-plot somewhere.

Highly possible once you think more on it, they've been adding all these little DLCs on a steady bases and since we've got all the squadies they had now and don't think Normandy needs yet another tank, nor does Shepard need any more weapons heh, they may toss sub-plot dlcs in that wouldn't affect the end game, I suppose SB one could squeeze in.

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Systemlord Baal wrote...

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What do you mean they already left Ash and Kaidan out of Kasumi's DLC?


Kasumi has these "I acknowledge your LI with a sentense about them and what I think about them" - lines. Everyone gets one, some more than one depending on the current relationship status. Liara is the only ME1-LI however who gets a line. Ashley and Kaidan are not mentioned and there are no audio-files about them, aswell.


Really? imagine that, bit of a slap to Ash/Kaidan loyals Image IPB

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indeed

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Unata wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Unata wrote...
What do you mean they already left Ash and Kaidan out of Kasumi's DLC?


Kasumi has these "I acknowledge your LI with a sentense about them and what I think about them" - lines. Everyone gets one, some more than one depending on the current relationship status. Liara is the only ME1-LI however who gets a line. Ashley and Kaidan are not mentioned and there are no audio-files about them, aswell.


Really? imagine that, bit of a slap to Ash/Kaidan loyals Image IPB

Yeah, its unfortunate that they didnt add any lines for them, but did for Liara.

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screwoffreg wrote...

Eddie-Hawke wrote...

Unata wrote...

How ever much we want more Liara in the game, I just don't think it will happen before ME3, what ever they do for Liara LI's, they'd have to for the rest as well, or I am sure you'd see/hear some serious flaming.

Convince me otherwise logicaly


If anything, it will be a Shadow Broker DLC, in which case they can't really not include Liara.  We mightn't get what we want, but she kinda has to be there.


Liara will be in anything dealing with the SB, but I don't expect ANY significant movement on the romance front, perhaps just an acknowledgement. 

I imagine by this time next year, hopefully halfway to ME 3 if it is to come out in late 2011/early 2012, we will have an expansion or larger DLC of some kind which will bridge ME 2 to ME 3.  In this case, I think we will see more substantial progress when it comes to romances, at least setting the stage for the final game...


Agreed. If SB DLC comes out at any point, Liara will have to be in it, but I won't expect anything outside of an acknowledgement. The DLC's aren't as integral to the plot as most would want, that's just the way it is. I am totally expecting advancement in the romance when and if any xpac comes out, and of course when ME3 finally releases. I have no theories on a release date though. If they decide to reuse their ME2 engine and just tweak it, we'll probably see it sometime in 2011.

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Unata wrote...
What do you mean they already left Ash and Kaidan out of Kasumi's DLC?


Kasumi has these "I acknowledge your LI with a sentense about them and what I think about them" - lines. Everyone gets one, some more than one depending on the current relationship status. Liara is the only ME1-LI however who gets a line. Ashley and Kaidan are not mentioned and there are no audio-files about them, aswell.


Really? imagine that, bit of a slap to Ash/Kaidan loyals Image IPB

Yeah, its unfortunate that they didnt add any lines for them, but did for Liara.


I really wish Kasumi had some dialogue referring to Ash/Kaidan. They deserved some acknowledgement that the romance was going to continue.

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Unata wrote...
What do you mean they already left Ash and Kaidan out of Kasumi's DLC?


Kasumi has these "I acknowledge your LI with a sentense about them and what I think about them" - lines. Everyone gets one, some more than one depending on the current relationship status. Liara is the only ME1-LI however who gets a line. Ashley and Kaidan are not mentioned and there are no audio-files about them, aswell.


Really? imagine that, bit of a slap to Ash/Kaidan loyals Image IPB

Yeah, its unfortunate that they didnt add any lines for them, but did for Liara.


well her knowing about liara sort of fits maybe she asked her for info but why would she know anything about a alliance solider

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Unata wrote...
What do you mean they already left Ash and Kaidan out of Kasumi's DLC?


Kasumi has these "I acknowledge your LI with a sentense about them and what I think about them" - lines. Everyone gets one, some more than one depending on the current relationship status. Liara is the only ME1-LI however who gets a line. Ashley and Kaidan are not mentioned and there are no audio-files about them, aswell.


Really? imagine that, bit of a slap to Ash/Kaidan loyals Image IPB

Yeah, its unfortunate that they didnt add any lines for them, but did for Liara.


Makes me wonder if it was an error or just Biowaste's way of damaging me1 LI's in me2, they try real hard to make you give em up Image IPB

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justinnstuff wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Unata wrote...
What do you mean they already left Ash and Kaidan out of Kasumi's DLC?


Kasumi has these "I acknowledge your LI with a sentense about them and what I think about them" - lines. Everyone gets one, some more than one depending on the current relationship status. Liara is the only ME1-LI however who gets a line. Ashley and Kaidan are not mentioned and there are no audio-files about them, aswell.


Really? imagine that, bit of a slap to Ash/Kaidan loyals Image IPB

Yeah, its unfortunate that they didnt add any lines for them, but did for Liara.


I really wish Kasumi had some dialogue referring to Ash/Kaidan. They deserved some acknowledgement that the romance was going to continue.

Well at least they do get an Email.

Modifié par Somebody1003, 12 avril 2010 - 04:01 .


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All the ME1 LIs got the middle finger, just in different ways.



But that BW left a single line about Ash/Kaidan out is really odd.

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Somebody1003 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Unata wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Unata wrote...
What do you mean they already left Ash and Kaidan out of Kasumi's DLC?


Kasumi has these "I acknowledge your LI with a sentense about them and what I think about them" - lines. Everyone gets one, some more than one depending on the current relationship status. Liara is the only ME1-LI however who gets a line. Ashley and Kaidan are not mentioned and there are no audio-files about them, aswell.


Really? imagine that, bit of a slap to Ash/Kaidan loyals Image IPB

Yeah, its unfortunate that they didnt add any lines for them, but did for Liara.


I really wish Kasumi had some dialogue referring to Ash/Kaidan. They deserved some acknowledgement that the romance was going to continue.

Well at least they do get an Email.


Doesn't Kelly say something as well?