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Well, there is that but the company is what makes it all warm and cuddly!

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That's true, but we can't mod scenes.  I still want to swap Liara's model with one of the other female LIs so I can get a love scene with Liara (like Jack's, for example).  I don't even know how to do this :(


I would have loved to see that too.  Shepard laying Liara down on the bed. :wub:

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Sunnie22 wrote...

Well, there is that but the company is what makes it all warm and cuddly!


:wub:

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scmadsen wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Well, there is that but the company is what makes it all warm and cuddly!


:wub:


True story =] <3

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I would have loved to see that too.  Shepard laying Liara down on the bed. :wub:


I know  *sniffles*.  It would have been beautiful.

You can swap Shepard for another model but not an npc.

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Do you think BioWare even notices how upset Liara fans are? We've gotten no word from them on anything. And unless that comic was already done, they ignored what we wanted out of it. Why do people still expect a perfect DLC to come along an fix everything? Purely wishful thinking? Is there something from the devs somewhere that I missed? That one comment hinting about a DLC after the comic, can't be all. It could be only about the Shadow Broker and finding Feron.

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Do you think BioWare even notices how upset Liara fans are? We've gotten no word from them on anything. And unless that comic was already done, they ignored what we wanted out of it. Why do people still expect a perfect DLC to come along an fix everything? Purely wishful thinking? Is there something from the devs somewhere that I missed? That one comment hinting about a DLC after the comic, can't be all. It could be only about the Shadow Broker and finding Feron.


No, I think you're right on the money. I doubt BioWare would come in and give us special attention on our character. Every other fanbase would feel alienated, so it's not a smart move. I don't expect much from a DLC outside of the SB arc and finding out whatever happened to Feron. I do expect this romance to become fulfilled in ME3, however.

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scmadsen wrote...

Do you think BioWare even notices how upset Liara fans are? 

I'm sure they've noticed.  The real question is..... do they care?

From the looks of things, probably not.

:(

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I did read an interview when the game launch when a guy who worked on the game was asked about the new stuff and where it came from and he said fan feedback on website was one way



so maybe they do

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justinnstuff wrote...

No, I think you're right on the money. I doubt BioWare would come in and give us special attention on our character. Every other fanbase would feel alienated, so it's not a smart move. I don't expect much from a DLC outside of the SB arc and finding out whatever happened to Feron. I do expect this romance to become fulfilled in ME3, however.


Right, the romance will get the same attention as the others but not until ME3.  I would be surprised if there was substantial romance content just for Liara in a DLC.

We may feel more alienated than other fans, but they're not going to do anything special just for Liara.

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One more bump for the BBG in case I don't make it back on tonight :wub::wub::wub:

Keep kicking ass in the Mass Effect Squadmate war thread!!

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Garrus fans are angry, thanks to a snitch, so reserve a spot and upvote Liara and downvote Garrus if you have the time: Here

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<delete> nvm lol

Modifié par mrbeavis19, 14 avril 2010 - 12:04 .


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ratzerman wrote...

scmadsen wrote...

Do you think BioWare even notices how upset Liara fans are? 

I'm sure they've noticed.  The real question is..... do they care?

From the looks of things, probably not.

:(


I am really worried that this thread will drown in the abyss of despair without les here until Friday.

I wish I could take up the cheerleading status myself, but I'm feeling under the weather, so I can't sustain hope for more than approximately ten minutes at a time. :unsure:

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JaylaClark wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

scmadsen wrote...

Do you think BioWare even notices how upset Liara fans are? 

I'm sure they've noticed.  The real question is..... do they care?

From the looks of things, probably not.

:(


I am really worried that this thread will drown in the abyss of despair without les here until Friday.

I wish I could take up the cheerleading status myself, but I'm feeling under the weather, so I can't sustain hope for more than approximately ten minutes at a time. :unsure:


:P

Still, you know it's true though. BioWare doesn't seem to care.

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*puts on optimist hat*



I will revive the optimism in the spirit of Mr. LesEnfatsTerribles!



Errr, OK....this is going to be tough. *tries*



There has to be a reason why Liara had such a crap role in ME2 and a lot of questions about her are thus far unanswered in the game. This includes romance (if you romanced her). So, they need to fix this in DLC, dammit!!! Unlike the ME2 LIs or even Ash and Kaidan, her romance is at at questionable point. Ashley and Kaidan lovers received an email full of romance that set the stage for a future relationship between them and Shepard. ME2 LI lovers had their consummation scene at the end of the game. Liara lovers got squat and a role for Liara that was the same if you romanced her or not. They can't leave this hanging without some sense of direction going into ME3.



Also, they can't include Liara in the DLC and completely ignore romance, can they? And really, it's only like a few more lines Hillis has to record for romance v.s non-romance. Plus, we love Liara and we are here showing this now...BW has to be paying attention, right?



Whew, that was hard.

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jlb524 wrote...

*puts on optimist hat*

I will revive the optimism in the spirit of Mr. LesEnfatsTerribles!

Errr, OK....this is going to be tough. *tries*

There has to be a reason why Liara had such a crap role in ME2 and a lot of questions about her are thus far unanswered in the game. This includes romance (if you romanced her). So, they need to fix this in DLC, dammit!!! Unlike the ME2 LIs or even Ash and Kaidan, her romance is at at questionable point. Ashley and Kaidan lovers received an email full of romance that set the stage for a future relationship between them and Shepard. ME2 LI lovers had their consummation scene at the end of the game. Liara lovers got squat and a role for Liara that was the same if you romanced her or not. They can't leave this hanging without some sense of direction going into ME3.

Also, they can't include Liara in the DLC and completely ignore romance, can they? And really, it's only like a few more lines Hillis has to record for romance v.s non-romance. Plus, we love Liara and we are here showing this now...BW has to be paying attention, right?

Whew, that was hard.


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Cartims wrote...

Jib, I will believe anything you say......Image IPB


Good!  As long as the ME devs does the same, we are in good shape!

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Cartims wrote...

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Good!  As long as the ME devs does the same, we are in good shape!

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Liara looks like she was at happy hour.

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Cartims wrote...

Liara looks like she was at happy hour.


It's always happy hour for Liara when Shepard is around <3

I wonder if Liara drinks, and if so, what kind of alcohol? 

I'd hope she'd try a beer or drink some scotch, as that's what my Shepard drinks.  She might only like wines and stuff like that.  A drunk Liara would be quite the site, though.

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jlb524 wrote...

*puts on optimist hat*

I will revive the optimism in the spirit of Mr. LesEnfatsTerribles!

Errr, OK....this is going to be tough. *tries*

There has to be a reason why Liara had such a crap role in ME2 and a lot of questions about her are thus far unanswered in the game. This includes romance (if you romanced her). So, they need to fix this in DLC, dammit!!! Unlike the ME2 LIs or even Ash and Kaidan, her romance is at at questionable point. Ashley and Kaidan lovers received an email full of romance that set the stage for a future relationship between them and Shepard. ME2 LI lovers had their consummation scene at the end of the game. Liara lovers got squat and a role for Liara that was the same if you romanced her or not. They can't leave this hanging without some sense of direction going into ME3.

Also, they can't include Liara in the DLC and completely ignore romance, can they? And really, it's only like a few more lines Hillis has to record for romance v.s non-romance. Plus, we love Liara and we are here showing this now...BW has to be paying attention, right?

Whew, that was hard.


Good job, AND valid points.  Stubbs and les are probably overly optimistic, I'll admit... but then again I leapt into full-on Oghren happy-dance mode after one line from Kasumi, which I can't even see until at least Friday.  (I'm expecting to finalize my Hardcore achievement by about then for ME1 anyway...)  And why is it that I was so ecstatic?  Because I take that line as proof that they remember us.  (Whereas sc glass-quarter-emptied it into 'yeah, we're broken up'.  Coincidentally, sc seems to be the only one who has seen Redemption #4 with his or her own eyes to come up with such crushing fears and anxiety over the romance.  This includes me, as of last night.)

I still have to say this, to be honest to myself -- the problem is that a) the designers have to maintain 'status-quo' in the ME1 romances, and B) frak if I know what 'status-quo' is, and I really can't find anyone who can answer that reliably.  With any luck, they have noticed people like us squawking for clarification, as well as in the Ashley and Kaidan threads, but I have to agree that they need to accept that sublimating the story to the endgame mechanic pretty significantly karked up the flow of the trilogy, because we have three characters that we're pretty much told to be angry at, while not given a very good reason why nor a good reward for not being angry at them ... and everyone else except for Counselor Anderson, Udina, Joker and EDI can die, so why care?  (Though I'd also eliminate Miranda from that list -- some people have said that it's nearly impossible to kill her without killing Shepard -- and I'm also curious about Dr. Chakwas's survival rate compared to Shepard's.)  It's almost like the supposed expansion pack has to push forward the main story as much as the game itself failed to do.

Still, I truly do believe we're getting Liara DLC, and that we'll have unique content, and hell, we'll even hopefully have a better performance from Ali now that she knows what she's supposed to go for.  (Though part of me thinks that what we like most about the scene is how she's only comfortable opening up into her old self... still, if she's smart, and is allowed TO be smart about it, she'll stick with the same delivery.)  As for the rest, well, what else can we do?

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jlb524 wrote...

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Liara looks like she was at happy hour.


It's always happy hour for Liara when Shepard is around <3

I wonder if Liara drinks, and if so, what kind of alcohol? 

I'd hope she'd try a beer or drink some scotch, as that's what my Shepard drinks.  She might only like wines and stuff like that.  A drunk Liara would be quite the site, though.


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What if both Shepard and Liara are drunk and they mind meld, that must be pretty trippy

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For some reason I don't see Liara as being someone that drinks. Atleast not drinking to get drunk. She might of started drinking heavily after Shepard died though. It'd be sad to see Liara drunk and unhappy, but I agree it might be funny to see Liara happy and tipsy.

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Even though we had to wad through all the possible dialogue choices to get the real answer from my girl. It was all worth it when I herd her say I just couldn't let you go. It was only the second time a game has given me any kind of emotional response. Even though it felt unnecessary to kill shep to begin with just to have a story for a picture book with little bubbles. But I'm willing to wait another 2 years just to spend more time with my blueberry.