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Fiannawolf

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Hmmm, I wonder, would Liara rather drink coffee or tea?? Most of my Sheps are definately coffee drinkers. Heavy on the booze too since Kasumi moved in. :P

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JaylaClark wrote...

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My random thought of the day. I wonder if we can get Liara or Ash/Kai for that matter, back and on the Normandy, and we flirted with Kelly, if we can have both. As in, we'd be able to call up Kelly while having Liara living in our cabin. Be fun to watch Kelly dancing for Shepard and Liara. Oh, I can see the outcry of the ME2 LI fans now. hehe



:o

Why do I think that's awesome?  Someone tell me ... okay, I'm sure Stubbs would tell me one thing but still...

You know me all too well Jayla. :D

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Fiannawolf wrote...

Hmmm, I wonder, would Liara rather drink coffee or tea?? Most of my Sheps are definately coffee drinkers. Heavy on the booze too since Kasumi moved in. :P


hehe!  Liara on caffeine...maybe she'd get bouncy.  :P

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JaylaClark wrote...

And let's get one of the scenes transcribed again, now that I have the chance:

Miranda (with -- eerily -- the same expression she wears in most of the game):  "I just wish I had better news for you -- we may not be able to restore Shepard at all.  The body is in worse shape than we expected.  There were some preservation systems in the pod, but they were hardly optimal."

Liara (with what to me looks like a dazed look -- then again this is subjective):  "Then I don't see the point, Miranda.  Maybe I don't know what human traditions are -- (bubble break) but I really think you should let the dead rest.  This isn't what I brought Shepard back for.  This is almost like -- like --"

Emphasis added by myself.  So she brought back Shepard for something, but not for being reconstructed entirely from scratch.  I see this as a worry that Cerberus will build something that just looks like Shepard but isn't him/her at all.  This, to me, turns the head-shake into an admittedly clumsy way of showing her concern -- she jumps up and kisses what looks like her love returned and backs away when her fear kicks in.



I think Liara brought Shepard back just to avoid having the body used by someone in either horrific experiments (i.e., the Collectors) or as a pawn in a galactic power game (i.e., the Shadow Broker).  

Liara feels Shepard's body should be treated with respect, even in death.    If you remember in the first issue, TIM tells Liara they want the body to put to rest, not to bring back to life.   Liara even asks TIM, I don't understand, if Shepard is dead, what would you want with a corpse?.  He just tells her she doesn't understand human traditions...her archeological mind probably assumes he's referring to a burial tradition. 

It seems like Liara only finds out Cerberus' true intentions with Shepard the moment she brings the body back.  I just wonder why she didn't put up more of a resistance?  I don't think she approves of it, as you've mentioned.

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Fiannawolf wrote...

Hmmm, I wonder, would Liara rather drink coffee or tea?? Most of my Sheps are definately coffee drinkers. Heavy on the booze too since Kasumi moved in. :P


Tell me about it.  My poor femShep had four glasses of the pink stuff after coming back from Illium. 

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I think it would be awesome. I happen to like Kelly, but love Liara. Kelly is just a fun distraction. There was even a writer that said they left the whole Kelly fling ambiguous on purpose, so the player could make up what happened. I like to think my Shepard and Kelly cuddled and talked about Liara all night. I think Kelly might happen to be going from a crush to falling in love with Shepard though. I wonder what will happen in ME3 with her.

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Fiannawolf wrote...

Hmmm, I wonder, would Liara rather drink coffee or tea?? Most of my Sheps are definately coffee drinkers. Heavy on the booze too since Kasumi moved in. :P

Probably coffee, since she said coffee cup instead of tea cup for the SB's remains.  I'm sure if she's pissed enough, she can fit him inside a tea cup as well.  Personally I love both coffee and tea, and where I live, we have a Starbucks in every block.  And tea is just amaaazing.  But I wonder what Liara would be like after ten cups of coffee...bug eyed, and talking like Mordin, except on Prothean stuff.

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JamieCOTC wrote...

Fiannawolf wrote...

Hmmm, I wonder, would Liara rather drink coffee or tea?? Most of my Sheps are definately coffee drinkers. Heavy on the booze too since Kasumi moved in. :P


Tell me about it.  My poor femShep had four glasses of the pink stuff after coming back from Illium. 


Mine too...

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Spent a good bit of time today playing around with that wallpaper I made this morning. Now I can't decide which one I like the best. Image IPB What do you guys think?

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Gah, I'll just make some changes in the morning, 'try and get the best balance of the features I like.

Oh, and if anyone wants a larger version of any of these, let me know.Image IPB

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Fiannawolf wrote...

Hmmm, I wonder, would Liara rather drink coffee or tea?? Most of my Sheps are definately coffee drinkers. Heavy on the booze too since Kasumi moved in. :P

Just because I am a tea person, I'd have to go with tea. It's just sooo good.:D

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wow thats great thx for the wallpaper

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scmadsen wrote...

SNIP
That's not enough to pull her back to us though, so it would seem some connection to Feron is stronger. Maybe it is as simple as the writers just suck really bad.


Or maybe they suck at writing trilogies.  

In Liara's case, it looks like they had trouble figuring out what to do with her in the 2nd part (ME2), they give her lame dialogue (which may or may not be relative to the last of the trilogy and Reaper annihilation), make her as unattractive as possible without actually smacking her with an ugly stick and don't give your Shep (you) any options to advance this part of your story.  

And don't get me started on Feron.  Who gives a carp about this dude?  They shuffle all the ME1 LI's off the gameboard and add, what is it, eleven characters to the roster?   Seriously Bioware, we need even more major NPCs to care about you have to add another through a media not even game related?   So which ME fans are going to get their favorite kicked to the curb in ME3?

I'm in bjd's camp, this Liara character assassination must be fixed in DLC or ME3, and fixed in a major way, or ME2 is my last Bioware purchase for the forseeable future.

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

Spent a good bit of time today playing around with that wallpaper I made this morning. Now I can't decide which one I like the best. Image IPB What do you guys think?

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I like this one the best.  It seems more balanced with Liara further on the right-side. ...more symmetrical.

#17039
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IndigoWolfe wrote...

Spent a good bit of time today playing around with that wallpaper I made this morning. Now I can't decide which one I like the best. Image IPB What do you guys think?

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Gah, I'll just make some changes in the morning, 'try and get the best balance of the features I like.

Oh, and if anyone wants a larger version of any of these, let me know.Image IPB


Damn, nice wallpapers!  Personally I like the first one the best, I think hacing that Reaper in the middle rather than Liara blocking it makes it cool.  I like all three, though!

Modifié par Sakhalin, 14 avril 2010 - 02:21 .


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mrbeavis19 wrote...

Fiannawolf wrote...

Hmmm, I wonder, would Liara rather drink coffee or tea?? Most of my Sheps are definately coffee drinkers. Heavy on the booze too since Kasumi moved in. :P

Just because I am a tea person, I'd have to go with tea. It's just sooo good.:D

I am with you on the tea.
Tea plus Metal Equals epic!

#17041
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scmadsen wrote...
. I'm never going to get the romance achievement for ME2, unless they let us fix the relationship with Liara and reward the achievement for it.


Me either.  I'm even working on getting ever single one but that one, just to make a point.

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General Stubbs wrote...

I am with you on the tea.
Tea plus Metal Equals epic!


Your music hurts my ears.  How can you think happy thoughts and listen to that stuff?  :P

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jlb524 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I am with you on the tea.
Tea plus Metal Equals epic!


Your music hurts my ears.  How can you think happy thoughts and listen to that stuff?  :P

I have heared worst, heeaviest stuff ever cant understand a thing.
www.youtube.com/watch
Its not ****ing human make it stop.

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Titan the Green wrote...

scmadsen wrote...
. I'm never going to get the romance achievement for ME2, unless they let us fix the relationship with Liara and reward the achievement for it.


Me either.  I'm even working on getting ever single one but that one, just to make a point.


I got it, only b/c I was hacking the game to test out same-sex romances using the save game editor.  I have yet to finish a game with a Shepard and do a new romance. I keep importing my main Liara romanced Shepard and playing as her.   I have trouble playing as another Shepard.

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jlb524 wrote...

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I am with you on the tea.
Tea plus Metal Equals epic!


Your music hurts my ears.  How can you think happy thoughts and listen to that stuff?  :P

Haha, I wonder that myself, I actually find it relaxing... It is the strangest thing.
I also listen to 60 - 70s rock, Jimi Hendrix and classical music.

If you want something that will make you wish you are deaf, listen to this.
This is not music in my opinion. Or I am not br000tal enough for it... LOL.

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I like your new sig!  It's cute. :wub:

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I have heared worst, heeaviest stuff ever cant understand a thing.
www.youtube.com/watch
Its not ****ing human make it stop.


That's painful.

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General Stubbs wrote...

If you want something that will make you wish you are deaf, listen to this.
This is not music in my opinion. Or I am not br000tal enough for it... LOL.


AAAHHH! 

Are there any metal songs that make you think about Liara or Shepard/Liara?

I'd be curious what metalhead Liara sounds like.

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jlb524 wrote...

@rynluna

I like your new sig!  It's cute. :wub:

this isnt my name wrote...

I have heared worst, heeaviest stuff ever cant understand a thing.
www.youtube.com/watch
Its not ****ing human make it stop.


That's painful.

Agreed the other link had a messed up pic, but music wasno where near as bad as that, that actually hurt my head, did you listen to the "singing" or turn it off in seconds ?

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Metalhead Liara? Oh dear, I don't think I want to know what that sounds like...

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scmadsen wrote...

My random thought of the day. I wonder if we can get Liara or Ash/Kai for that matter, back and on the Normandy, and we flirted with Kelly, if we can have both. As in, we'd be able to call up Kelly while having Liara living in our cabin. Be fun to watch Kelly dancing for Shepard and Liara. Oh, I can see the outcry of the ME2 LI fans now. hehe

And don't forget to invite Leliana to that party! Image IPB Oh my I shouldn't be thinking of that! I'm going to get myself in all kinds of.... troubleImage IPB