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I'd dig up my emoticon sequence from a few days ago, but it's buried so deep I'll never find it...



but yeah, the Liara and Horizon reunion scenes were emotional rollercoasters. I remember that sinking feeling I got after both of them when I realized what had happened...

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With Liara it was like...

:blink:  :blink:  :blink:  :blink:  :blink: :o :o:huh:  :crying:


That's almost the same as my emotions during the reunion. Just the beginning is different which was like
Look there's my Liara *party-time* - a kiss *love* - *life is good* - and then the WTF moments as our conversions progressed - you know the rest :-)
 
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my emotions during the "Liara" ME2 reunion


:happy:-:lol:-:o-:mellow:-:mellow:-:(-:sick:-[looks at BioWare:bandit:] -----How Dare You

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And therein lies the hooey. Casey in that interview saying the ME1 characters being kept from squadmate status in ME2 is because they "can not be killed". hahahahahahahaha This is a video game. It's foundation is software programming. So does Casey want us to believe that noooooooo one in the Bioware programming department has the ability to make sure a ME1 character "that can't be killed in ME2" isn't killed? Really? Is he serious? Argh, frustration...

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Could have been something as simple as...right before going thru the relay...Liara and Ash/Kai have to go on a mission together...and for some reason there isn't enough time to go pick them up...so you go thru the relay without them...and guess what, they live. Then you can pick them up after the mission if Shepard lives. That wasn't so hard. Look at me, I'm a writer.

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@Titan the Green........you have one crazy avatar, l like it

Yeah thats just about the same when Casey calls Asari----asexual.......WTF, oh well

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Please remain Positive about the Liara DLC and Mass Effect for now ok

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Well everybody, finished another few chapters of my Liara/Shepard ME 1 fic. For this of you who do not know, part of it is ultimately winding to the ME 2 days to help explain the dynamic between these two people and possibly how Liara has become "darker". We never really get a good explanation for Liara's vengeful anger...I think my spin on it...while rough is ultimately clearer.

Chapter 10 is rough, as a warning. Real rough. I recall a quote by Voltaire, which I paraphrase, as "Love your enemies, hate your friends". Sometimes you have to hate your readers enough to want to poke them and make them feel. I guess that is my try at that. Its not fluffy AT all, so be aware.

Link is below to my profile page. The story is Holding on to Let Go.

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Titan the Green wrote...

And therein lies the hooey. Casey in that interview saying the ME1 characters being kept from squadmate status in ME2 is because they "can not be killed". hahahahahahahaha This is a video game. It's foundation is software programming. So does Casey want us to believe that noooooooo one in the Bioware programming department has the ability to make sure a ME1 character "that can't be killed in ME2" isn't killed? Really? Is he serious? Argh, frustration...


Right...so it seems like they almost wanted the ME2 crew to all potentially die for some reason.  None of them had to be coded to die either...the suicide mission could have been a complete success no matter what.

It's odd :unsure:

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Zombie Crew! They'll come back as husks, or be rebuild like Shepard, only cheaper, so they drool and have parts missing, and aren't very bright...that might be fun though.

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if casey did say that about the me1 people not being recruitable so they can believe for the 3rd game what does that say about the 2nd game people that they don't count as they can all die at one point in the game does that mean they are not coming back because they don't know who lived and who did not



him saying that does not make sense

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screwoffreg wrote...

Well everybody, finished another few chapters of my Liara/Shepard ME 1 fic. For this of you who do not know, part of it is ultimately winding to the ME 2 days to help explain the dynamic between these two people and possibly how Liara has become "darker". We never really get a good explanation for Liara's vengeful anger...I think my spin on it...while rough is ultimately clearer.

Chapter 10 is rough, as a warning. Real rough. I recall a quote by Voltaire, which I paraphrase, as "Love your enemies, hate your friends". Sometimes you have to hate your readers enough to want to poke them and make them feel. I guess that is my try at that. Its not fluffy AT all, so be aware.

Link is below to my profile page. The story is Holding on to Let Go.


Ooooh, I can't wait to read it.   I love your work as it is a bit angstier.  Fluff has it's time and place but too much is too much.  

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jlb524 wrote...

Titan the Green wrote...

And therein lies the hooey. Casey in that interview saying the ME1 characters being kept from squadmate status in ME2 is because they "can not be killed". hahahahahahahaha This is a video game. It's foundation is software programming. So does Casey want us to believe that noooooooo one in the Bioware programming department has the ability to make sure a ME1 character "that can't be killed in ME2" isn't killed? Really? Is he serious? Argh, frustration...


Right...so it seems like they almost wanted the ME2 crew to all potentially die for some reason.  None of them had to be coded to die either...the suicide mission could have been a complete success no matter what.

It's odd :unsure:


Well, you need a few to live to pull Shepard up from the brink.  Miranda is "harder" to get rid off as are a few other members.  Mordin and the "squishier" types like Tali can die easily if you do dumb moves.  Honestly it is so easy to save EVERYONE though if you have reading comprehension skills that the argument made that "well they can all die so they won't be important in ME 3" doesn't hold water.  Bioware gives you PLENTY of warning/chances/hints on how to save your entire crew, even going so far as to tell you in many cases.

"LOYALTY is important" Illusive Man
"Man getting the squad LOYAL is sure important" Jacob
Last Mission: Man, sure hope we have a strong BIOTIC for this.  Anyone know a STRONG biotic? or a TECH expert? Tech expert over here?  Someone with COMMAND experience, like Miranda? Hello? Anyone?

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@screwoffreg.......["Love your enemies, hate your friends"]--------so very true......very true



I will read your fanfic, and I am a fan of your work.....keep it up ; )

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

@Titan the Green........you have one crazy avatar, l like it

Yeah thats just about the same when Casey calls Asari----asexual.......WTF, oh well


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Please remain Positive about the Liara DLC and Mass Effect for now ok


Um, yeah.  I think Casey secretly works for FOX.  <_<

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GamerFSS86 wrote...
Yeah thats just about the same when Casey calls Asari----asexual.......WTF, oh well

This is true though. Asari are asexual as they do not reproduce by mixing genetic materials. Of course that doesn't mean they cant "enjoy" any physical interaction during the course of, well, um, course of, ya!Image IPB It is pretty obvious that they do if you played ME and romanced Liara Image IPB.
You can see here what I am talking about Image IPB

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She looks very much like she is enjoying this! Image IPB

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JamieCOTC wrote...

GamerFSS86 wrote...

@Titan the Green........you have one crazy avatar, l like it

Yeah thats just about the same when Casey calls Asari----asexual.......WTF, oh well


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Please remain Positive about the Liara DLC and Mass Effect for now ok


Um, yeah.  I think Casey secretly works for FOX.  <_<


Nothing against Casey, as the game series so far is very good despite its flaws.  But have you seen the dudes personal page?  He poses like an actor and gives that smoldering look of "come hither".  Video game developers sure have changed as in the past, no one would be able to pull that picture off, lol.

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wolf99000 wrote...

if casey did say that about the me1 people not being recruitable so they can believe for the 3rd game what does that say about the 2nd game people that they don't count as they can all die at one point in the game does that mean they are not coming back because they don't know who lived and who did not

him saying that does not make sense


If they survived, they'll come back in some way.  They could have a cameo just like Ashley/Kaidan/Liara/Wrex did.  They might be squad mates, but not have much to say and will definitely not be plot critical as they could be dead.

The three ME1 LIs hopefully will be squad mates and will have a more important role in the main ME3 plot.

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Zombie Crew! They'll come back as husks, or be rebuild like Shepard, only cheaper, so they drool and have parts missing, and aren't very bright...that might be fun though.


OMG LMAO!!:lol:

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Talk about Asari being Asexual is going to get that discussion started again...I'll take a nap during the biology and genetics lectures this time.

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screwoffreg wrote...

Well, you need a few to live to pull Shepard up from the brink.  Miranda is "harder" to get rid off as are a few other members.  Mordin and the "squishier" types like Tali can die easily if you do dumb moves.  Honestly it is so easy to save EVERYONE though if you have reading comprehension skills that the argument made that "well they can all die so they won't be important in ME 3" doesn't hold water.  Bioware gives you PLENTY of warning/chances/hints on how to save your entire crew, even going so far as to tell you in many cases.

"LOYALTY is important" Illusive Man
"Man getting the squad LOYAL is sure important" Jacob
Last Mission: Man, sure hope we have a strong BIOTIC for this.  Anyone know a STRONG biotic? or a TECH expert? Tech expert over here?  Someone with COMMAND experience, like Miranda? Hello? Anyone?


I found in ridiculously easy to have everyone survive, even on my first suicide mission.  Still, some people have squad members die :unsure:

I actually thought it was more of a challenge to try to get certain people killed and have others survive.  That's were the fun is at.

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Titan the Green wrote...

And therein lies the hooey. Casey in that interview saying the ME1 characters being kept from squadmate status in ME2 is because they "can not be killed". hahahahahahahaha This is a video game. It's foundation is software programming. So does Casey want us to believe that noooooooo one in the Bioware programming department has the ability to make sure a ME1 character "that can't be killed in ME2" isn't killed? Really? Is he serious? Argh, frustration...


The whole argument would be invalid anyway, if they hadn't implemented that stupid idea of a suicide mission. I've yet so see most of the cutscenes portraying my companions' deaths. Why would I even want to see that? What's the point? I don't really care about any of them, but it's almost impossible to fail any of their loyalty quests, or to miss the important ship upgrades. Why would I deliberately ignore these things? To watch the characters die? I did that once, for two characters (the most and the least popular :whistle:), just out of curiosity. But it feld bad enough. And why, of all things, would I even want to see my Shepard die?

No, this whole concept was very wrong from the beginning. They wasted time on cutscenes that many people will not see and do not want to see. And it "forced" them (if you believe it) to sideline the important (if you believe it) characters, which was the worst thing of all. Now they have to reintroduce the ME 1 characters (if you believe it), plus you have a bunch of new characters which many people demand to be in the next game as well.

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GamerFSS86 wrote...

scmadsen wrote...

Zombie Crew! They'll come back as husks, or be rebuild like Shepard, only cheaper, so they drool and have parts missing, and aren't very bright...that might be fun though.


OMG LMAO!!:lol:

Random Deth Metal


Thank you, thank you...I'll be here all week, try the fish.

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jlb524 wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Well, you need a few to live to pull Shepard up from the brink.  Miranda is "harder" to get rid off as are a few other members.  Mordin and the "squishier" types like Tali can die easily if you do dumb moves.  Honestly it is so easy to save EVERYONE though if you have reading comprehension skills that the argument made that "well they can all die so they won't be important in ME 3" doesn't hold water.  Bioware gives you PLENTY of warning/chances/hints on how to save your entire crew, even going so far as to tell you in many cases.

"LOYALTY is important" Illusive Man
"Man getting the squad LOYAL is sure important" Jacob
Last Mission: Man, sure hope we have a strong BIOTIC for this.  Anyone know a STRONG biotic? or a TECH expert? Tech expert over here?  Someone with COMMAND experience, like Miranda? Hello? Anyone?


I found in ridiculously easy to have everyone survive, even on my first suicide mission.  Still, some people have squad members die :unsure:

I actually thought it was more of a challenge to try to get certain people killed and have others survive.  That's were the fun is at.


This. I got the "No one left behind" achievement and wondered how I got it first try. The fact that some people question when someone dies leaves me a bit scared. How can you mess it up?

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I hope Bioware has no sympathy for those who lost crew members and forces them to just have a smaller pool of people to choose from. C'mon folks, its soooo easy to not lose anyone. I laugh when I see the threads about "I chose Legion as my biotic, why did everyone die" lol!

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I got the achievement on my first try, no internet research on what to do or who to use, just went in blind, and everyone lived. Then I see people posting having like six people dead and asking what they did wrong...It is in fact harder to figure out how to kill off people you want to die, leaving those you want you alive left. That seems backwards when they made a big deal out of the last mission.