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[mrbeavis19]

Cartims wrote...

mrbeavis19 wrote...

Cartims wrote...

Martinis for all!

lol I get the creeping suspicion that you're an alcoholic 

Darling, have one with me.

Oh if only I were of legal age...ah what the heck, bottoms up! 

[Sunnie]

scmadsen wrote...

Because Java is evil, and it's easy to back door and do nasty things with.

They could do the same with Pearl or even, Ruby ( I hate Ruby).

[bergerrz]

Yay 700!!!

[scmadsen]

btw, welcome back Sunnie



oh and check your messages if you haven't, you never replied to my last one, it was random, and I don't even remember what was it, but you never replied!



Oh, and what does everyone think of the new emote? I know Sunnie can do better if she is still up to it. I put these up here quick...well, cause I was bored...

[Sunnie]

scmadsen wrote...

btw, welcome back Sunnie

oh and check your messages if you haven't, you never replied to my last one, it was random, and I don't even remember what was it, but you never replied!

Oh, and what does everyone think of the new emote? I know Sunnie can do better if she is still up to it. I put these up here quick...well, cause I was bored...

Ermm... I missed something? off to check messages...

[JamieCOTC]

yorkj86 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Here’s an idea.  What would you want your Shep to say or ask when confronting Liara and what would you want her to say in response?

When I "confront"  Liara, is that the first meeting with her on Illium, or is this another, hypothetical situation?   If it's the latter, does it take place before or after the events of ME2?

Sorry, should have specified.  The Collector base is either destroyed or in Cerberus' hands and after you check out your crew you head off to Illium.  What transpires? What would you want your Shep to say to Liara and what would you want Liara to say in response? 

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 15 avril 2010 - 03:27 .

[Sunnie]

JamieCOTC wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Here’s an idea.  What would you want your Shep to say or ask when confronting Liara and what would you want her to say in response?

When I "confront"  Liara, is that the first meeting with her on Illium, or is this another, hypothetical situation?   If it's the latter, does it take place before or after the events of ME2?

Sorry, should have specified.  The Collector base is either destroyed or in Cerberus' hands and after you check out your crew you head off to Illium.  What transpires? What would you want your Shep to say to Liara and what would you want Liara to say in response? 

Well, Liara can start by telling me...

[scmadsen]

@ subject of Shepard/Liara relationship

I feel, for what it's worth...that unless one of them says to the other, that it is over, then it's not...no matter how questionable the status is. We haven't been allowed to talk about it, thus we might as well figure there is still a relationship there.

"Well, Shepard was dead for two years!' Yea, but dead people normally stay dead...so this would be a special case. Liara has clearly got alot on her mind, and has been busy for the last two years. However just because she can't come with you, doesn't mean she lost her love for Shepard. She shows signs to the contrary in fact. Yes there are those little hints that bug the crap out of me, with...he who's name shall not be spoken...but I can get over that...I trust Liara. Only time will tell if my trust was misplaced or not.

Lots of couples the world over, have things that keep them apart. And they stay faithful and make it work, because they love each other. Throughout history epic love stories of lovers parted, longing day after day for each other, only to be reunited and happy again, have been told. Not everything has to be a damn tragedy...I wish writers would remember that...happy doesn't have to be boring.

Liara has a job to do...she needs to do this...her reasons aren't perfectly clear...but if Shepard loves Liara, then she has to let Liara do this. Liara in turn, knows Shepard has a job to do, and so lets Shepard walk out the door on Illium. If I know Liara at all...she broke down in tears after seeing the Normandy take off...wishing she had said something more, wishing she had gone with Shepard...but they both have a duty to do.

As for he who's name shall not be spoken...he was a tool...something Liara could focus on, other then all the emotions that must be going thru her, other then dealing with the loss of Shepard and thinking about Shepard coming back, and in what state. Also what Shepard will think and feel. he who's name shall not be spoken has been locked away somewhere or is dead now.

Liara fears what Shepard will think of her...she wants "Redemption"...to prove herself to Shepard...she wants to atone for what she saw as a failure...first she left Shepard to die on the Normandy...then she nearly lost Shepard to the Shadow Broker and Collectors...she then let *grumbles* be lost to save the body of Shepard...then she gave that body to Cerberus...Liara has to feel really bad about herself right now...understandable with everything she has been thru. Her mental state is a mess.

While in our minds, Liara has no need to worry, and we simply want her back...because she did nothing wrong. If anything Shepard and Joker are to blame for all this...but she doesn't know that. And we aren't allowed to help her see that, and let her know we love her, and will always stick by her no matter what. Liara wants to prove to Shepard that she isn't a bad person.

That's why we are given what we are, and that's why I love Liara, and why I'm staying faithful to her, till the bitter end. The writers can still screw this up...or they can turn it around and give us something beautiful...I'm still the same pessimist...and I've lost most of my faith...but they haven't ripped out my heart and stomped on it...yet...

Modifié par scmadsen, 15 avril 2010 - 03:51 .

[rvayda141]

Perhaps bioware wanted to have different types of love stories to choose from. In the first game the romances lacked some of the drama they might have had due to a lack of conflict with the actual relationship. Little by little over the course of the mission you grow closer to your LI and eventually have the pre-Ilos scene to consummate it.

In ME2, those same relationships get a giant injection of angst with kaidan/ash flipping out on shepard and Liara being in the situation she is in.

For those who don't want the angst, bioware leaves the status of those ME1 romances open to interpretation and demonizes the characters a little so that people can feel more comfortably with a new LI

As fans of the ME1 romances, we decide to deal with that angst, frustrating as it may be, and it comes down to whether you think Liara is worth the frustrating drama, which i think most people who post here would agree she is

[bergerrz]

We'll Im not much a fan of drama but Liara is worth it.

[Sunnie]

Test
 Aha! Damn BB interp of transperencies is whacked

[Sunnie]

sc needs some hugs and cuddles! Keep the faith sweetie, we don't really know enough yet, and we really won't for some time.

[scmadsen]

Figures I post that, and almost everyone is gone already. So it's gonna be lost by tomorrow, and everyone will be back to calling me the doomsayer or something.

[Sunnie]

more testing!

[scmadsen]

yorkj86 wrote...

scmadsen wrote...

Figures I post that, and almost everyone is gone already. So it's gonna be lost by tomorrow, and everyone will be back to calling me the doomsayer or something.

Just repost it when things have picked up.   If it's going to get lost like you say it will, no one will notice that you've reposted it!

But there will be that one person that notices...and then the internet will explode!

[JaylaClark]

scmadsen wrote...

Figures I post that, and almost everyone is gone already. So it's gonna be lost by tomorrow, and everyone will be back to calling me the doomsayer or something.

I noticed!  And I'll merely accuse you of being sucked into les's post of UberPositiveOne via quantum! </Discworld_ref>

But it really does make sense.  To our minds, and I'm going to say it's likely what the writers think of faithful Liarasexuals, Shepard and Liara are merely lovers apart, not on a break or broken up.  To the non-faithful, they can think all they want that two years have passed and everyone's moved on, but it doesn't fit the logic of the story, and they likely will be called on it later in ME3, or even in the expansion pack or DLC.

TheirShep: But I thought you would move on --

Liara:  WHY would you THINK that?  I KNOW how long it's been for me, for you it's been what, a month?

Followed by espressolarity-in-action ...

[JaylaClark]

rvayda141 wrote...

Perhaps bioware wanted to have different types of love stories to choose from. In the first game the romances lacked some of the drama they might have had due to a lack of conflict with the actual relationship. Little by little over the course of the mission you grow closer to your LI and eventually have the pre-Ilos scene to consummate it.
In ME2, those same relationships get a giant injection of angst with kaidan/ash flipping out on shepard and Liara being in the situation she is in.
For those who don't want the angst, bioware leaves the status of those ME1 romances open to interpretation and demonizes the characters a little so that people can feel more comfortably with a new LI
As fans of the ME1 romances, we decide to deal with that angst, frustrating as it may be, and it comes down to whether you think Liara is worth the frustrating drama, which i think most people who post here would agree she is

I think I've said this on occasion.  Choose Your Own Cliche, I call it.  Either run-into-a-new-love's-arms or lovers-apart (like Arwen in ... the vast majority of LotR).  I just wish they gave us as much of a mini-reward as Ash and Kai romancers get.  (Because I Couldn't Let You Go, to me, is the reward ... kinda screwed up because there's no romantic-exclusive content.)

Modifié par JaylaClark, 15 avril 2010 - 05:09 .

[scmadsen]

JaylaClark wrote...

scmadsen wrote...

Figures I post that, and almost everyone is gone already. So it's gonna be lost by tomorrow, and everyone will be back to calling me the doomsayer or something.

I noticed!  And I'll merely accuse you of being sucked into les's post of UberPositiveOne via quantum!

But it really does make sense.  To our minds, and I'm going to say it's likely what the writers think of faithful Liarasexuals, Shepard and Liara are merely lovers apart, not on a break or broken up.  To the non-faithful, they can think all they want that two years have passed and everyone's moved on, but it doesn't fit the logic of the story, and they likely will be called on it later in ME3, or even in the expansion pack or DLC.

TheirShep: But I thought you would move on --

Liara:  WHY would you THINK that?  I KNOW how long it's been for me, for you it's been what, a month?

Followed by espressolarity-in-action ...

Hey, well I did say it before...that I'd get to this point...and here I am...so there. But really *cough* I kind of, um...skimmed alot of his posts for awhile...anyway...DLC and ME3...maybe...coming to grips with the crap writing and its presentation...yes.

I won't get into the whole reasons not to cheat on Liara thing again, or the stupidy of people that do...but espressolarity...maybe only at the shock of Shepard being such a moron and falling for said moron...not out of anger or jealousy though.

[scmadsen]

Sunnie22 wrote...

sc needs some hugs and cuddles! Keep the faith sweetie, we don't really know enough yet, and we really won't for some time.

Thanks Sunnie!

[bjdbwea]

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Modifié par bjdbwea, 15 avril 2010 - 05:17 .

[scmadsen]

yorkj86 wrote...

I'm a witness, but I'm not going to call you out on it.  I'm going to repost my response to JamieCOTC's question, and maybe even her question itself, if they get no responses.

I'll repost what I said tomorrow, as well most likely.