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[Nozybidaj]

General Stubbs wrote...

Lol, I have never even played ME without romancing Liara.

Over the last two years I probably played ME1 a dozen times or more.  Once I romanced Ash, once I romanced Kaidan, once I stayed single.

Every other time I romanced Liara.

[Corti78]

I've never done a non-Liara romance playthrough. I tried once but I felt so bad after rejecting her I had to reload my save and say yes.

[vigna]

Corti78 wrote...

I've never done a non-Liara romance playthrough. I tried once but I felt so bad after rejecting her I had to reload my save and say yes.

Ash turned me of with her xenophobia, and so I've never romanced an ME1 LI except liara. In Me 2 I did romance Tali, but I din't know the "new" Liara backstory and didn't get the dialogue tree....I was so pissed when i met her on ilium...

[Corti78]

vigna wrote...

Ash turned me of with her xenophobia, and so I've never romanced an ME1 LI except liara. In Me 2 I did romance Tali, but I din't know the "new" Liara backstory and didn't get the dialogue tree....I was so pissed when i met her on ilium...

I was same way in my first playthrough. When i do investigate options I always go from top to bottom with the choices since you know... they've never ended a conversation before which made me miss that very important piece of info. <_<

I still stayed loyal but I was extremely tempted to romance Garrus since he's one of my favorite characters next to Liara and Legion.

[Sakhalin]

Final Fantasy XIII comes out in North America next week and Ali Hillis voices the main playable character, Lightning in English. Its going to be strange playing it because I'll keep thinking its Liara, lol!

Modifié par Sakhalin, 01 mars 2010 - 05:54 .

[vigna]

Sakhalin wrote...

Final Fantasy XIII comes out in North America next week and Ali Hillis voices the main playable character, Lightning in English. Its going to be strange playing it because I'll keep thinking its Liara, lol!

So, did she not work on ME2? Liara's voice sounds different...

[Corti78]

Its the same VA. They probably told her to change up the voice slightly to match the new personality.

[Sharn01]

I have been consdering trying FFXIII, but I have been dissatisfied with any JRPG for a really long time. They have never followed the same formula as western RPG's but that was not really a problem, I think it has more to do with the games themselves, they are all about flash and big explosion's, half naked women, and people leaping off building and gods only know what other nonsense they can squeeze into the game's.



What ever happened to the Dark Knight who decide's the King is evil and leaves his service, becoming a Paladin and discovering a much greater evil is actually going on behind the scenes?

[Nozybidaj]

Sakhalin wrote...

Final Fantasy XIII comes out in North America next week and Ali Hillis voices the main playable character, Lightning in English. Its going to be strange playing it because I'll keep thinking its Liara, lol!

:wub: I did not know that, can't wait!

[Corti78]

I used to be a huge jrpg fan but in the last year or so my interest in them has pretty much died. I'll be getting FFXIII just to have something else to play for a bit. Didn't know Liara's VA does Lightning's voice though.

[WilliamShatner]

vigna wrote...

Sakhalin wrote...

Final Fantasy XIII comes out in North America next week and Ali Hillis voices the main playable character, Lightning in English. Its going to be strange playing it because I'll keep thinking its Liara, lol!

So, did she not work on ME2? Liara's voice sounds different...

She does still voice Liara, but yes she sounds very different and it's very jarring. 

She's also credited as "Additional Voices".  I wonder who?

[screwoffreg]

Corti78 wrote...

I used to be a huge jrpg fan but in the last year or so my interest in them has pretty much died. I'll be getting FFXIII just to have something else to play for a bit. Didn't know Liara's VA does Lightning's voice though.

I've heard it is basically entirely on rails, meaning you are always moving forward with no chance for diverting from the path.  The Final Fantasy series has, as it gets prettier, lost a lot of what made it great.  FFIV, V, VII and a few others beyond that were great games...

Now it sure looks good, no denying it...but gameplay is rather stale.

[bjdbwea]

Those ME 1 love scenes are the best in video gaming history (not that there would be many rivals in the first place). So much better than in ME 2. Not because of the lack of clothes, though it can't be denied that this does make it more realistic. But because they're so beautifully and tastefully done. You can feel the emotion between the characters, they are "alive". With all that great and realistic 3D technology, that's still very hard to accomplish. It's the best thing you can achieve as developer, and BioWare did.

The scenes in DA in comparison are quite simplistic and "direct", hence the ridiculous clothes BioWare slapped on. In ME 2 at least they're going for a better, more artistic approach. Yet the execution once more can't hold water to ME 1. Not because of the obvious caving in to the ME 1 media campaign. You can implement the essential message of such a scene well with the characters wearing clothes too. But that wasn't really tried, it would require a different approach to writing and directing it. As it is, it all feels more tacked-on, much less natural. I've said it in other context, but it really sums it up: ME 1 was a great Hollywood movie. ME 2 is a good TV series.

To stay at least a little on topic: I rather have no love scene with Liara in ME 2, than a bad one. Not that it would be the most important part of the whole romance thing in video games anway.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 01 mars 2010 - 06:37 .

[Taritu]

A good kiss is often more romantic than a sex scene.

[JaylaClark]

Corti78 wrote...

Its the same VA. They probably told her to change up the voice slightly to match the new personality.

Agreed on that -- though her little "Shepard!" before the kiss -- it'll always be a kiss when I play, as it'll probably be with most of us, right? -- I swear I heard 'my' Liara there.  Didn't have to wait until her side mission was done or anything.

In my opinion ... the super-tough Liara is more a construct than anything.  That beautiful geek that most of us fell in love with is still there inside, you just have to get around her armor.  (Which I wish someone told me you have to select that option the first time around ... oh well, I'll probably be doing a New Game Plus anyway, I'll know for next time.  Just in case that's an important thing to trigger.

... er, we do have the option for New Game Plus this time around... right?)

[Taritu]

JaylaClark wrote...

Corti78 wrote...

Its the same VA. They probably told her to change up the voice slightly to match the new personality.

Agreed on that -- though her little "Shepard!" before the kiss -- it'll always be a kiss when I play, as it'll probably be with most of us, right? -- I swear I heard 'my' Liara there.  Didn't have to wait until her side mission was done or anything.

In my opinion ... the super-tough Liara is more a construct than anything.  That beautiful geek that most of us fell in love with is still there inside, you just have to get around her armor.  (Which I wish someone told me you have to select that option the first time around ... oh well, I'll probably be doing a New Game Plus anyway, I'll know for next time.  Just in case that's an important thing to trigger.

... er, we do have the option for New Game Plus this time around... right?)

Yes, but you lose your ME1 bonuses (paragon and renegade, etc...) and it ramps up the difficulty quite a bit.  Better to reimport from ME1.

[Corti78]

JaylaClark wrote...

Corti78 wrote...

Its the same VA. They probably told her to change up the voice slightly to match the new personality.

Agreed on that -- though her little "Shepard!" before the kiss -- it'll always be a kiss when I play, as it'll probably be with most of us, right? -- I swear I heard 'my' Liara there.  Didn't have to wait until her side mission was done or anything.

In my opinion ... the super-tough Liara is more a construct than anything.  That beautiful geek that most of us fell in love with is still there inside, you just have to get around her armor.  (Which I wish someone told me you have to select that option the first time around ... oh well, I'll probably be doing a New Game Plus anyway, I'll know for next time.  Just in case that's an important thing to trigger.

... er, we do have the option for New Game Plus this time around... right?)

There is a NG+. You keep all weapons/armor but lose your paragon/renegade score, get a set amount of credits/minerals instead of what you had, and lose all upgrades.

And yeah about Liara you can hear the original break through in a few instances. Too bad its so short lived before she goes back to grimdark!Liara.

Modifié par Corti78, 01 mars 2010 - 08:18 .

[Unato]

latest FF is a disappointment imo, most of the game is linear and lacking in detail, that said I'm curious how the English VA sound since I normally play mine in Japanese. interesting to know that Liara's VA is in it, will have to youtube it just to see =X

[JaylaClark]

Corti78 wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

Corti78 wrote...

Its the same VA. They probably told her to change up the voice slightly to match the new personality.

Agreed on that -- though her little "Shepard!" before the kiss -- it'll always be a kiss when I play, as it'll probably be with most of us, right? -- I swear I heard 'my' Liara there.  Didn't have to wait until her side mission was done or anything.

In my opinion ... the super-tough Liara is more a construct than anything.  That beautiful geek that most of us fell in love with is still there inside, you just have to get around her armor.  (Which I wish someone told me you have to select that option the first time around ... oh well, I'll probably be doing a New Game Plus anyway, I'll know for next time.  Just in case that's an important thing to trigger.

... er, we do have the option for New Game Plus this time around... right?)

There is a NG+. You keep all weapons/armor but lose your paragon/renegade score, get a set amount of credits/minerals instead of what you had, and lose all upgrades.

And yeah about Liara you can hear the original break through in a few instances. Too bad its so short lived before she goes back to grimdark!Liara.

Hmm... might be worth the challenge, if I feel like experiencing the Collector Ship level again.  Which, people have said that I AM a masochist so I might.

But I swear, am I the only one taking comfort in the fact that real!Liara still seems to exist?  Or, at least, that we're SO likely to get a shot at the people who made her this way? ... Quite possibly I'm one of a very few, I'll admit, and I'll also need a chance to hug her at the end of it all, please, BioWare?  Thanking you in advance.

[Corti78]

JaylaClark wrote...

Hmm... might be worth the challenge, if I feel like experiencing the Collector Ship level again.  Which, people have said that I AM a masochist so I might.

But I swear, am I the only one taking comfort in the fact that real!Liara still seems to exist?  Or, at least, that we're SO likely to get a shot at the people who made her this way? ... Quite possibly I'm one of a very few, I'll admit, and I'll also need a chance to hug her at the end of it all, please, BioWare?  Thanking you in advance.

I assure you I am eager to put a bullet through the SB's head for what he put Liara through. Bioware really needed to put a paragon interrupt when she says she couldn't let Shepard go. But no, they completely neglected to make Shepard capable of emotion during their reunion. <_<

Modifié par Corti78, 01 mars 2010 - 08:39 .