implodinggoat wrote...
the concept that she has become less innocent and naive
You imply that Liara was innocent and naive to begin with. I argue that she wasn't. When we meet Liara she is trapped inside the Prothean bubble. This makes her seem a little bit helpless, however all is not as it seems.
We learn that Liara is a powerful biotic for her age, she clearly takes after her mother in that fashion. The match of any human to be sure. Secondly, Liara grew up the daughter of a respected and well known Matriarch. Her mother had followers and commandos, wealth and powerful friends. It should not be underestimated just how much Liara understands the galaxy or Asari court lifestyle.
What she didn't know much of humans, or having a crush on someone. Both these make her seem innocent or naive. When it's just the worries of saying the wrong thing to someone she finds attractive. If you still think I'm wrong on this, listen to what Liara has to say in missions sometimes...you'll be surprised just how much she does know about the galaxy.
She is sweet, thoughtful, and caring...this does not make her naive. As for innocent. Liara says it best herself, when speaking how she never ran into anything her boitics could not handle. You think a lone young and beautiful Asari isn't a target for all kinds of scum?
implodinggoat wrote...
For example having Liara break the law
I'm going to stop right there, and point out, that this is Illium...you can pretty much do whatever you want there, as long as you don't cause harm to others. Information theft doesn't really hurt anyone, now that's open to debate, but generally, it doesn't. We can atleast call it a gray area. Liara isn't selling Red Sand or something. Take into account that Liara is stealing from bad people in the first place.
implodinggoat wrote...
When you first meet her she is quoting her psychotic mother
Do not forget why Benezia was like she was. She was under the effect of indoctrination. Also; She only went with Saren because she thought she could try and stop him, she was wrong, she made a mistake. That doesn't make her evil or crazy. She sounds like her daughter in this respect. Liara is doing bad, to try and do good.
implodinggoat wrote...
and threatening to flay someone alive, not for the greater good; but simply because the guy didn't want to pay the bill she sent him.
I said this before...you can look at it from the point of view...that Liara knows Shepard just landed on Illium...she is nervous about seeing her/him again...and is waiting for the reunion moment...then she gets some deadbeat on the link and is pissed off he is distracting her from Shepard. Notice she's at the window and not her desk...She was looking out the window I bet, watching for Shepard. So this jerk won't pay and she wants to get rid of him...then Shepard just walks in at the wrong moment. You can argue all day she called him, but we don't know. It's more likely he got the info, wasn't happy with what he learned and/or was trying to just get off without not paying; and just called up to say he wasn't.
It can be argued that Nyxeris setup the whole scene as well. To get Shepard uncomfortable and be less likely to stick around. Having Shepard there, is a danger to Nyxeris.
implodinggoat wrote
Then, if you press her on it she even goes so far as asserting that her mother's ruthlessness was a commendable trait.
That's subjective.
implodinggoat wrote...
When you ask her to help save the galaxy she prioritizes her own private vendetta over helping to save the lives of thousands of innocents.
Does Shepard really need her help? Be honest now. (Liara knows both that Shepard doesn't really need her help, but does her love and friendship, that would only just distract from both their missions right now, which are important.) Liara is a smart girl. She figured out things about the Reapers in fifty years, others had been looking at the same information and sites as she went to, for thousands of years, and never put it together. Her older academic peers laughed at her, but it was clear she was a genius. This to me, is proof Liara can quickly connect things and knows that Shepard doesn't really need her help.
implodinggoat wrote...
Then she sends you off to illegally hack into public computer terminals for her as though you were just a damned errand boy, not her lover.
Again, this is subjective. She tells Shepard she needs someone she can trust. She trusts Shepard, even given the fears in her mind about what currently is, and what Cerberus has done to the body. This speaks volumes about how Liara feels for Shepard.
implodinggoat wrote...
After that she asks you to illegally hack more public terminals so that she can order a hit on someone.
These are all bad people, doing bad things and getting away with it. Why should we care what happens to them? There is no moral high-ground for you to stand on here. When Shepard kills lots of bad people all the time. Are you evil then, thus by proxy?
implodinggoat wrote...
When you ask her how the fight with her secretary went she reacts to killing a woman who she had worked closely with for months as though she had just swatted a fly.
When someone is a double agent and was most likely planing to kill you...that tends to put things in perspective and thus one loses any emotional attachment quickly, or one dies.
Modifié par scmadsen, 16 avril 2010 - 04:32 .
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