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[JaylaClark]

A: All of the the Mass Effect titles standalone. The
beginning of Mass Effect 2 is really meant to let players experience
Mass Effect for the first time. We really want to look at Mass Effect 3
as a standalone title where the ending is going to feel satisfying.

Just got back for the night to find people worried about half a quote again.  Well, actually this was a few pages ago, but still, everyone got worried and took this as proof of Casey admitting that he's screwing us faithful players over ...

But the quote continues:

The other thing, for people who played the first two games, is that
the third is really the fruition of all the choices you made. So in a
way, Mass Effect 2 was the most difficult to make because we had to not
only bring in things you've done before but think about what's coming
for the future. Now it's really about how things come to a conclusion.

Honestly, we can't expect Casey Hudson to make a game that is impossible for people who didn't play the first two games to enjoy, right?  We can expect him to make the game kinda suck for people just jumping in, though.  (Remember how all of the crappy decisions are pre-made for the non-import ME2 player.  I fully expect that to continue.  And remember, crappy kisses are better than none.  I've learned that for myself over the years...)

They're supposedly tracking a thousand decisions for us.  They're trying (probably by mandate, possibly by choice) to build a game that'll satisfy both us AND the newbies and they probably know how scattered their success was with that aim this time around.  I don't know if I want to applaud them for their resolve or slap them for their insanity.

[Yeled]

Somebody1003 wrote...

It be free.

I did it just to have the artifact in my room. Does suck though.

Oh, I understand its free.  That just shows how little I care about it.  When BioWare releases dlc with some good storytelling, which isn't 90 minutes of shooting, I might deem it worthy of a download.

[scmadsen]

If they had really bothered to have our choices make an impact, then I might agree, but as it was in ME2, really you just got an email or you didn't...wow, what an impact all these choices we made had...Now...if I could have ran into people and talked with them...that might of been a bit more rewarding...Like the Asari on Illium that talks to you about the Queen you saved. But what about someone like Wong...they hired her again, to do new reports...but why can't we meet her and talk to her...just seems they took the lazy way out for almost all the choices we made, and seeing some impact from them. It's all the little things that bug me about ME2. I could write a huge list of everything. But Liara is right at the top.

Modifié par scmadsen, 18 avril 2010 - 03:20 .

[ratzerman]

New page....... new pic.

[Yeled]

JaylaClark wrote...
I don't know if I want to applaud them for their resolve or slap them for their insanity.

Oh, I don't know...it seems to me that the way they promised the moon and failed miserably to deliver is deserving of a slap.  Have they succeeded with ME2 any more than the Lionhead has succeeded with the Fable franchise?  Both were financial successes, and Molyneux promised the world with Fable (plant an acorn and grow a tree). He gave us something that failed to be revolutionary on any level. 

In many ways I think ME2 was the same.  They were promising something revolutionary...creating a true trilogy where your character and decisions carried over.  The ultimate storytelling experience in a video game. But in reality this really failed to materialize in any meaningful way.

[sumof all fear]

 I hate to be off topic but, Gears Of War 3 was recently anounced, and as I watched the reveal trailer and listened to the music, I couldn't help but think of the conversation with liara.

Modifié par sumof all fear, 18 avril 2010 - 03:29 .

[WilliamShatner]

JaylaClark wrote...

A: All of the the Mass Effect titles standalone. The
beginning of Mass Effect 2 is really meant to let players experience
Mass Effect for the first time. We really want to look at Mass Effect 3
as a standalone title where the ending is going to feel satisfying.

Just got back for the night to find people worried about half a quote again.  Well, actually this was a few pages ago, but still, everyone got worried and took this as proof of Casey admitting that he's screwing us faithful players over ...

But the quote continues:

The other thing, for people who played the first two games, is that
the third is really the fruition of all the choices you made. So in a
way, Mass Effect 2 was the most difficult to make because we had to not
only bring in things you've done before but think about what's coming
for the future. Now it's really about how things come to a conclusion.

Honestly, we can't expect Casey Hudson to make a game that is impossible for people who didn't play the first two games to enjoy, right?  We can expect him to make the game kinda suck for people just jumping in, though.  (Remember how all of the crappy decisions are pre-made for the non-import ME2 player.  I fully expect that to continue.  And remember, crappy kisses are better than none.  I've learned that for myself over the years...)

They're supposedly tracking a thousand decisions for us.  They're trying (probably by mandate, possibly by choice) to build a game that'll satisfy both us AND the newbies and they probably know how scattered their success was with that aim this time around.  I don't know if I want to applaud them for their resolve or slap them for their insanity.

You can expect months and months of pre-release ME3 hype with BioWare employees saying "Yeah, some of you were disappointed with how choices were handled in Mass Effect 2 even though we said they would be awesome, but really in this game we will really make your choices mean something."

Post release: "Oh well.  Got your $60!"

[Yeled]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Yeled wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

It be free.

I did it just to have the artifact in my room. Does suck though.

Oh, I understand its free.  That just shows how little I care about it.  When BioWare releases dlc with some good storytelling, which isn't 90 minutes of shooting, I might deem it worthy of a download.

Not even gunna try it?

Nope.  I just don't have any interest. There are many free games that I will never play, and just because someone stamped Mass Effect on the label doesn't mean its more worthy than anything else. I didn't get into ME for that kind of gameplay.  As far as I'm concerned it was a waste of the developer's time and resources that they could have spent doing something more interesting.

If people like it that's fine.  I don't begrudge them.  But its not for me.  Frankly a lot of what BioWare is doing these days doesn't seem to be for me.

[Sunnie]

page needs more BBG!  /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/27991.gif



oh Sushi was sooo good!

[JaylaClark]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Going back to what Jayla said about Casey's quote that ME3 will be the fruition of all of the choices made over two games, that is why I believe there will be two different romance paths for Liara in ME3. One for new players just starting the romance, and one for those of us who have been faithful since ME1.

If we get a uniform reset Liara romance in ME3, then how is that our choice and dedication to Liara being rewarded? I want something special to recognise the deep love developed over the entire trilogy. I do believe that will happen, but as I said I will be very annoyed if we don't get anything special for remaining faithful to Liara across the trilogy.

Me too.  And it seems to me that there's really no frakking point to tracking changes in the game if it's going to be the same game for everyone.  And to a point, it wasn't the same game...

Then again, I have to admit, again, I'm coming from the perspective of "didn't dislike this game except for the Liara bits and the headache-inducing plot elements" ... well, I think a lot of us are there, I just find it easy to ignore the latter through most of the game.

[vigna]

Cartims wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

UFOash wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

New stuff! (take 2)

Click to see entire piece.

Not sure if this is safe for the forum, but if you all think it is ok I'll post the entire picture /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/28016.gif

I saw the first time you posted it.
I think its fine for the forum.
Not so big on the blur tbh but oh well.

The first one a couple pages back was the wrong one /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/28479.gif . Thats what I get for trying to pay attention to the forum, work on art, pm, work in my garden, and play with my cat  /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/28011.gif.
The bluring is intentional, its not intended to be explicit, but dreamy and surreal.

I like dreamy and surreal,........but I'm a dog person.....

cat person................

[screwoffreg]

I have several Liara loyalty games as well as an Ash game where I cheated. I am not totally convinced, in line with the thinking that they are going to "reset" the game yet again for ME 3, that the supposed cheating is going to matter much at all. If you can romance everyone in ME 3 over again, you probably would just get a few "wow ur mean" lines but I doubt its going to change much. Let's see if Bioware surprises us.