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ME2 was a hard slap to the face for ME1 fans...they basically told us we don't matter.
I can't really agree with this. There are plenty of ME1 fans who enjoyed ME2 - myself included. Now, granted, the treatment of characters from ME1 may have left a little more to be desired, particularly in the case of Liara and her sudden personality shift, but I don't believe for a minute BioWare was intentionally antagonizing old fans.
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The two Liara romance paths for Liara in ME3 will probably be this:
ME1 romanced Liara:
We've had the courting and consumation in ME1, and the "rocky second chapter" in ME2. Now is time for the development of a deep, spiritual bond between Shepard and Liara. The process of the pair of them becoming more than just mere lovers, and their relationship ascending to true, deep love, care and trust for each other. The pair becoming bondmates in the epilogue is a given, and many have expressed an interest in being given the option of Shepard and Liara having a little asari daughter at the end.
New ME3 romance:
Basically, something akin to ME1 Liara romance. You need to build up the trust and love for Liara that she describes in ME1 in order for her to even consider melding for the first time. This will be a courting romance. Like in ME1, when Liara describes the asari union, the level of trust, companionship and love in order for Liara to consider melding and entering a physical relationship with Shepard needs to be built up. It'll be just like the ME1 romance.
That's how I think it'll go. Two different Liara romance paths is the way it will happen.
ME1 romanced Liara:
We've had the courting and consumation in ME1, and the "rocky second chapter" in ME2. Now is time for the development of a deep, spiritual bond between Shepard and Liara. The process of the pair of them becoming more than just mere lovers, and their relationship ascending to true, deep love, care and trust for each other. The pair becoming bondmates in the epilogue is a given, and many have expressed an interest in being given the option of Shepard and Liara having a little asari daughter at the end.
New ME3 romance:
Basically, something akin to ME1 Liara romance. You need to build up the trust and love for Liara that she describes in ME1 in order for her to even consider melding for the first time. This will be a courting romance. Like in ME1, when Liara describes the asari union, the level of trust, companionship and love in order for Liara to consider melding and entering a physical relationship with Shepard needs to be built up. It'll be just like the ME1 romance.
That's how I think it'll go. Two different Liara romance paths is the way it will happen.
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
The two Liara romance paths for Liara in ME3 will probably be this:
ME1 romanced Liara:
We've had the courting and consumation in ME1, and the "rocky second chapter" in ME2. Now is time for the development of a deep, spiritual bond between Shepard and Liara. The process of the pair of them becoming more than just mere lovers, and their relationship ascending to true, deep love, care and trust for each other. The pair becoming bondmates in the epilogue is a given, and many have expressed an interest in being given the option of Shepard and Liara having a little asari daughter at the end.
New ME3 romance:
Basically, something akin to ME1 Liara romance. You need to build up the trust and love for Liara that she describes in ME1 in order for her to even consider melding for the first time. This will be a courting romance. Like in ME1, when Liara describes the asari union, the level of trust, companionship and love in order for Liara to consider melding and entering a physical relationship with Shepard needs to be built up. It'll be just like the ME1 romance.
That's how I think it'll go. Two different Liara romance paths is the way it will happen.
I hope there is SOME difference. I give Bioware somewhat of a pass plotwise for ME 2 as its just the middle sequel, so those are always rough (no real beginning, no real end), but there insistence on making each game independent of one another reeks of Square like tomfoolery. Might as well just call it Final Mass Effect Fantasy where everything is different each time..
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
The two Liara romance paths for Liara in ME3 will probably be this:
ME1 romanced Liara:
We've had the courting and consumation in ME1, and the "rocky second chapter" in ME2. Now is time for the development of a deep, spiritual bond between Shepard and Liara. The process of the pair of them becoming more than just mere lovers, and their relationship ascending to true, deep love, care and trust for each other. The pair becoming bondmates in the epilogue is a given, and many have expressed an interest in being given the option of Shepard and Liara having a little asari daughter at the end.
New ME3 romance:
Basically, something akin to ME1 Liara romance. You need to build up the trust and love for Liara that she describes in ME1 in order for her to even consider melding for the first time. This will be a courting romance. Like in ME1, when Liara describes the asari union, the level of trust, companionship and love in order for Liara to consider melding and entering a physical relationship with Shepard needs to be built up. It'll be just like the ME1 romance.
That's how I think it'll go. Two different Liara romance paths is the way it will happen.
That's how I think it should go, too. It'd be fair, anyway.
Not that we've been the recipient of fair that much lately, but ... we're kinda due, right?
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At best?:innocent:LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
The two Liara romance paths for Liara in ME3 will probably be this:
ME1 romanced Liara:
We've had the courting and consumation in ME1, and the "rocky second chapter" in ME2. Now is time for the development of a deep, spiritual bond between Shepard and Liara. The process of the pair of them becoming more than just mere lovers, and their relationship ascending to true, deep love, care and trust for each other. The pair becoming bondmates in the epilogue is a given, and many have expressed an interest in being given the option of Shepard and Liara having a little asari daughter at the end.
New ME3 romance:
Basically, something akin to ME1 Liara romance. You need to build up the trust and love for Liara that she describes in ME1 in order for her to even consider melding for the first time. This will be a courting romance. Like in ME1, when Liara describes the asari union, the level of trust, companionship and love in order for Liara to consider melding and entering a physical relationship with Shepard needs to be built up. It'll be just like the ME1 romance.
That's how I think it'll go. Two different Liara romance paths is the way it will happen.
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Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:49
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
The two Liara romance paths for Liara in ME3 will probably be this:
ME1 romanced Liara:
We've had the courting and consumation in ME1, and the "rocky second chapter" in ME2. Now is time for the development of a deep, spiritual bond between Shepard and Liara. The process of the pair of them becoming more than just mere lovers, and their relationship ascending to true, deep love, care and trust for each other. The pair becoming bondmates in the epilogue is a given, and many have expressed an interest in being given the option of Shepard and Liara having a little asari daughter at the end.
New ME3 romance:
Basically, something akin to ME1 Liara romance. You need to build up the trust and love for Liara that she describes in ME1 in order for her to even consider melding for the first time. This will be a courting romance. Like in ME1, when Liara describes the asari union, the level of trust, companionship and love in order for Liara to consider melding and entering a physical relationship with Shepard needs to be built up. It'll be just like the ME1 romance.
That's how I think it'll go. Two different Liara romance paths is the way it will happen.
That would be great, except for the fact that this would mean more work for BioWare. So they probably won't do it. There will probably be differences, but I imagine that they will be minor. (a few dialog options)
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Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:49
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If they had really bothered to have our choices make an impact, then I might agree, but as it was in ME2, really you just got an email or you didn't...wow, what an impact all these choices we made had...Now...if I could have ran into people and talked with them...that might of been a bit more rewarding...Like the Asari on Illium that talks to you about the Queen you saved. But what about someone like Wong...they hired her again, to do new reports...but why can't we meet her and talk to her...just seems they took the lazy way out for almost all the choices we made, and seeing some impact from them. It's all the little things that bug me about ME2. I could write a huge list of everything. But Liara is right at the top.
I admit, I like ME2, because the combat is enjoyable and the characters are colorful . . . but that means nothing, really. My two main Shepards romance Liara and Kaidan, and I effing hate playing through ME2 without them. Hate it. ME2 has become enjoyable for me, because I made up a single Sheprd for a romance with THane, but if I didn't I would whole-heartedly agree with you. I still mostly do , but want to reserve judgment until ME3 comes out. If ME3 handles Kaidan and Liara the way they should have in ME2, then I can forgive most of it. If they don't, I'll be one very pissed off ex-fan. I'm very scared this is going to end up happening:(
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I hope its not just garbage dialogue options anyway. It wouldn't even make sense. In ME 2 you can completely be a big player and jump from one LI to the other with NO ONE acknowledging any problem there. With the Kasumi DLC she at least mentions when you are with someone, but otherwise Shepard can do whatever the hell he/she wants.
If all of a sudden they add real consequences, I'd be interested to see what they are. In previous Bioware games you could kill a romance, full stop, and most of the time that means ALL romances died. That's real consequences and choices...but then again a lot of gamers these days would whine about that and we can't have people be forced into a path because of their decisions!
If all of a sudden they add real consequences, I'd be interested to see what they are. In previous Bioware games you could kill a romance, full stop, and most of the time that means ALL romances died. That's real consequences and choices...but then again a lot of gamers these days would whine about that and we can't have people be forced into a path because of their decisions!
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Come on, Casey has flat out said that ME3 will be the fruition of our choices. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with ME2, as like you all have said it's the middle part of the trilogy and they can't really create two many different deviating choices. It really would be too much to handle. We're going to see the fruits of all of these choices in ME3, and that includes a deep, unique and special Liara romance for those of us who have romanced her across the trilogy.
They don't have to be reserved about consequenses anymore, they can go all out, and that includes with Liara, who need I remind you will be in everyone's ME3 and therefore is likely to receive a ton of development time, care, attention and resources.
There will be a special, faithful and loving Liara romance!! I'm sure of it!!
They don't have to be reserved about consequenses anymore, they can go all out, and that includes with Liara, who need I remind you will be in everyone's ME3 and therefore is likely to receive a ton of development time, care, attention and resources.
There will be a special, faithful and loving Liara romance!! I'm sure of it!!
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Editted my old wallpaper to make Liara's skin tone more accurate and added a background. Hope you like it.
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Come on, Casey has flat out said that ME3 will be the fruition of our choices. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with ME2, as like you all have said it's the middle part of the trilogy and they can't really create two many different deviating choices. It really would be too much to handle. We're going to see the fruits of all of these choices in ME3, and that includes a deep, unique and special Liara romance for those of us who have romanced her across the trilogy.
They don't have to be reserved about consequenses anymore, they can go all out, and that includes with Liara, who need I remind you will be in everyone's ME3 and therefore is likely to receive a ton of development time, care, attention and resources.
There will be a special, faithful and loving Liara romance!! I'm sure of it!!
You better be right or my near thirty self (I am assuming 2011 or 2012 for ME 3) is going to be pissed. I don't play many games anymore (no time) and the ones I do I like to think are rewarding. Bioware games I always make time for. Don't screw me, Bioware!
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It makes me sad to think about what it must be like for an Asari for her bondmate to leave her, regardless of the reason. This isn't to say that regular divorce can't be painful, but if the Asari associate themselves with their bondmate's mental character before they do their physical form, I can only imagine the pain in losing the ability to engage in the joining of minds. It seems like far more loss to suffer than with non-Asari.
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I am convinced we will be able to wrap-up our romances from ME1 and 2, and hope to god Laira and Kaidan are squadmates in ME3, but each new peice of info on ME3 seems to indicate otherwise. The romances will have their endings, but as for the rest,I am not going to hold my breath.LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Come on, Casey has flat out said that ME3 will be the fruition of our choices.
There will be a special, faithful and loving Liara romance!! I'm sure of it!!
Sry, this is a bit of a pessimist day for me
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Posté 18 avril 2010 - 05:00
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Shavon wrote...
I am convinced we will be able to wrap-up our romances from ME1 and 2, and hope to god Laira and Kaidan are squadmates in ME3, but each new peice of info on ME3 seems to indicate otherwise. The romances will have their endings, but as for the rest,I am not going to hold my breath.LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Come on, Casey has flat out said that ME3 will be the fruition of our choices.
There will be a special, faithful and loving Liara romance!! I'm sure of it!!
Sry, this is a bit of a pessimist day for me
Bioware is capable of a lot though. I remember when Throne of Bhaal came out it was just supposed to be an "expansion" but it turned out to be as good as any full-sized game and of the best examples of how to wrap up a story. They have the technology...but can they pull it together???
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It makes me sad to think about what it must be like for an Asari for her bondmate to leave her, regardless of the reason. This isn't to say that regular divorce can't be painful, but if the Asari associate themselves with their bondmate's mental character before they do their physical form, I can only imagine the pain in losing the ability to engage in the joining of minds. It seems like far more loss to suffer than with non-Asari.
Exactly. The asari have to endure slander of being "promiscuous" because physical contact and visual and physical displays of sexuality are not the be all and end all of their relationships. It runs alot deeper than that, when an asari and her partner are truly, deeply in love, they join together and become one. It's the ultimate show of trust, love, care and compassion between an asari and her partner.
It's why it's evident how much Shepard means to Liara. The fact that physical intimacy means alot to her, and she has to trust and love Shepard deeply to even kiss her, let alone even entertaining the idea of melding with Shepard, shows just how much Shepard means to Liara. As we've said before, Liara is atypical of other asari. Physical contact and intimacy means alot to her. The union alot more. Like she describes in ME1, the union means so much to her, and she really, truly, has to be deeply in love with and trust the person that she falls in love with.
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screwoffreg wrote...
LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Come on, Casey has flat out said that ME3 will be the fruition of our choices. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with ME2, as like you all have said it's the middle part of the trilogy and they can't really create two many different deviating choices. It really would be too much to handle. We're going to see the fruits of all of these choices in ME3, and that includes a deep, unique and special Liara romance for those of us who have romanced her across the trilogy.
They don't have to be reserved about consequenses anymore, they can go all out, and that includes with Liara, who need I remind you will be in everyone's ME3 and therefore is likely to receive a ton of development time, care, attention and resources.
There will be a special, faithful and loving Liara romance!! I'm sure of it!!
You better be right or my near thirty self (I am assuming 2011 or 2012 for ME 3) is going to be pissed. I don't play many games anymore (no time) and the ones I do I like to think are rewarding. Bioware games I always make time for. Don't screw me, Bioware!
Les is going to make it right through force of will, I think. I'm older than I look (yet younger than I feel
) but I'm a bit more confident that we're getting some reward for our patience. Especially considering there are hopefully legions of people who, despite the story's best efforts, stayed faithful demonstratively in every play through.
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
As we've said before, Liara is atypical of other asari. Physical contact and intimacy means alot to her. The union alot more. Like she describes in ME1, the union means so much to her, and she really, truly, has to be deeply in love with and trust the person that she falls in love with.
Don't we know that she's never joined minds before meeting with Shepard? If so, then how does she actually know about her thoughts about whether or not the union means that much to her, unless she just says so because she was told to believe it by her parents and/or peers? What I'm trying to say is that I'm curious about how Liara has these strong, personal feelings about the union and intimacy if she's never experienced them before Shepard.
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Love it, the Liara love scene in ME1 is absolutely beautiful!
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Don't we know that she's never joined minds before meeting with Shepard? If so, then how does she actually know about her thoughts about whether or not the union means that much to her, unless she just says so because she was told to believe it by her parents and/or peers? What I'm trying to say is that I'm curious about how Liara has these strong, personal feelings about the union and intimacy if she's never experienced them before Shepard.
I think it's kind of similar to how some sensitive people who are virgins want their first time to be special, and not just a fling and a one night stand with some person. They've never had sex before, but they want it to be deep and mean something.
That's the impression I get with Liara. She's never melded before, but knows how deep, spiritual and loving it is, as it's an essential part of asari sexuality and reproduction. Liara knows that it's the ultimate way in which an asari can show their trust and love for each other, and consequently holds it in the highest regard.
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Sad, thoughtful Liara.
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Posté 18 avril 2010 - 05:29
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Sad, thoughtful Liara.
I don't care what they do with Mass Effect 3 and the reapers or the council, just so long as I get to comfort that sad blue face.
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We all do, my friend. I hate seeing Liara so sad and pained. I just want to give her a hug!
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Regular Liara looks better then that mod, to me at least.Dr.LiaraTsoni wrote...
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