Support Liara T'Soni for ME3 - Squadmate and LI
#18651
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:01
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*
#18652
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:05
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*

Gorgeous!
#18653
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:10
justinnstuff wrote...
Got it, for some reason when I tried the smilie trick it removed the url tags, but they can both exist together. I just had to add them back in!
EDIT - I love this sig so much, I always wanted an animated sig with all the stuff I packed in it
Can I use your sig?? Please! Can I?
#18654
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:17
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*
#18655
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:21
Sunnie22 wrote...
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This is adorable!!! Why didn't BioWare do this, it's such a simple act? ../../../uploads_user/1070000/1069890/27989.gif
#18656
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:25
Asari head dealies always reminded me more of cuttlefish than squid.vigna wrote...
Jax Sparrow wrote...
Why limit ourselves to just having Liara as a squid in ME3? why not have Liara as a squid in a ME2 Expansion and beyond?
<_<Did you just call the blue goddess a squid?

Or....... would that be cuddlefish?
#18657
Guest_yorkj86_*
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:26
Guest_yorkj86_*
"There was no privacy with Nyxeris, that Japanese girl, and the Salarian you found standing in my office."Sunnie22 wrote...
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That makes it sound like Shepard walked in on the middle of something freaky. I'm just saying, the phrasing is a little...off.
Modifié par yorkj86, 18 avril 2010 - 03:34 .
#18658
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:34
ratzerman wrote...
Or....... would that be cuddlefish?
There will be a lot of cuddling when Liara gets to the Commander cabin........
#18659
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:55
ratzerman wrote...
Yup..... literally threw it away. I still have the graphic novel on pre-order, so I'll have that for completionist's sake.LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
Speaking of Liara withdrawal, I got Redemption 4 in the mail yesterday.
Threw it right in the trash, didn't even open the package.
Seriously, ratz? You literally threw it away?
When mine arrives in the post, I'm gonna keep it for completionist sake, but I fully understand where you're coming from.
Er, your protest of anger isn't really going to work if you give them more money.
#18660
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 03:56
"In fact, asari have to accept that if they mate outside their own
species, they will almost inevitably outlive their partner (with the
notable exception of the krogan,
who have a similarly immense longevity). Therefore they have had to
apply their philosophical "long view" to relationships as well,
savouring the time they spend with their partners rather than focusing
on their inevitable loss. On the Citadel,
an asari and her companion are trying to decide on a souvenir to
purchase, and while her friend feels a fish is too short-lived to make
a good memento, the asari notes that they must "enjoy the time they
have with the fish." As a result of the age difference many asari raise
their daughters alone, especially if the "father" species is
short-lived. Despite their partner's death, a part of them will live
within their other."
Would this make it easier to be without Shephard or more difficult for Liara? Shep is being brought back from the dead, and has already died. Humans are a short lived species anyways. Would Liara want or be willing to move form maiden to matron at such an early age?
The Maiden stage begins at birth and is marked by the drive to explore and experience. Most young asari are curious and restless.
The Matron stage of life begins around the age of 350,
though it can be triggered earlier if the individual melds frequently.
This period is marked by a desire to settle in one area and raise
children.
The Matriarch stage begins around 700 years of age, or
later if the individual melds rarely. Matriarchs become active in their
community as sages and councilors, dispensing wisdom from centuries of
experience. Their knowledge and guidance may be one reason why
Matriarchs are rarely seen outside asari space.
Going from a 106 year old maiden to a 108 year old matron must be a strain and stress for Liara. Does she care enough for Shephard to do this? Will Shephard be willing to not have offspring so Liara can continue to enjoy the first stage of her life? Would a femShep want to have a child of her own, and not just depend on Liara? Does she think male Shep wants and desires this out of her? Are they both willing to leave it at a loving sexual relationship with no offspring?
All these legitimate questions ****** me off cause they remain unanswered. I now need Liara DLC even more than ever.
EDIT* Are our Shephard's being selfish if they want Liara to have a child with them???
Modifié par vigna, 18 avril 2010 - 05:06 .
#18661
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:02
Nice job justinn!justinnstuff wrote...
Well it's that time again, I made a new sig. This one is my first attempt at photoshop animation. I doubt many people wanted an animated sig but I really wanted one!! Without further adeu here it is
If anyone wants certain pieces of the sig as a separate one, let me know, I have this saved frame by frame and can grab whatever you need.
#18662
Guest_yorkj86_*
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:02
Guest_yorkj86_*
Attempting to quote your post has been a nightmare due to some strange isuses with bullet-points resisting deletion, so here's my response.
Some people in this thread will tell you that Shepard and Liara are meant to be together. I haven't yet been convinced by the writers and the narrative that this is the case. They love each other, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are meant for one another. To say that they are soulmates already is a tender notion, but also a hasty one.
#18663
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:05
It wasn't really a protest. I had already paid for the damned thing, so I knew I was thowing money away. I'm hoping that the collection will have an epilogue, or something else that might better explain things.WilliamShatner wrote...
Er, your protest of anger isn't really going to work if you give them more money.
I know it's useless to hope at this point, but.....
Modifié par ratzerman, 18 avril 2010 - 04:05 .
#18664
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:05
****, realism went out the window when they repaired and revived a decimated corpse that used to be Shepard. I dont think having that same crybernetic doohickery and nanomachinery extend Shepards life by many hundreds of years is a very big ask after that.
Like I said, if they can repair a ravaged corpse exposed to space and crashed through a planets atmosphere, the same sort of cellular regeneration that gives the asari such long lives should be a doddle.
#18665
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:08
#18666
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:15
You didn't include the entire sentance.yorkj86 wrote...
"There was no privacy with Nyxeris, that Japanese girl, and the Salarian you found standing in my office."Sunnie22 wrote...
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That makes it sound like Shepard walked in on the middle of something freaky. I'm just saying, the phrasing is a little...off.
It wasn't easy phrasing everything the way Liara would say it while saying everything that had to be said, and then saying it all in a way that fit on a single mail page.
#18667
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:19
justinnstuff wrote...
Well it's that time again, I made a new sig. This one is my first attempt at photoshop animation. I doubt many people wanted an animated sig but I really wanted one!! Without further adeu here it is
If anyone wants certain pieces of the sig as a separate one, let me know, I have this saved frame by frame and can grab whatever you need.
Hope you don't mind,i squashed it down a bit to fit on my sig....
Nice work by the way.
#18668
Guest_yorkj86_*
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:20
Guest_yorkj86_*
Sunnie22 wrote...
You didn't include the entire sentance.
It wasn't easy phrasing everything the way Liara would say it while saying everything that had to be said, and then saying it all in a way that fit on a single mail page.
Oh, yeah. Woops.
#18669
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:29
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*
I think it's more of a cultural asari thing with regards to maidens having children. To make an analogy with humans, it'd be the equivalent of a 19 or 20 year old girl ssettling down and having children. Not exactly unheard of, but still quite unusual. That's what it'd be like with Liara having Shepard's child within the next few years. She's still relatively young for an asari, but sexually mature and as such able to bear children.
As we've seen before as well, Liara is very atypical of other asari. Whilst most of her peers her age are commandos and strippers, Liara dedicated her life to science and studying the Protheans in solitude. While other asari take the long view regarding the death of their partners, Liara hunted down Shepard's body and actively worked to bring her back to life because she "couldn't let you go". Liara is very unique and atypical for an asari. If her and Shepard decide together to have children, then they will do.
#18670
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:36
I believe that Liara is special. She is still very young and has been away from Asari culture for more than half her life when we find her stuck in a bubble. She hasn't had much influence from the Asari norm to really set those normal Asari values in stone. Shepard has been the only one to spark any attraction in her, and she makes her own decisions based on her feelings, not biased by Asari stigma. Were Shepard and Liara meat to be together? Nobody knows that for sure, but many will tell you, that from the heart, their love for each other is very deep and one can interprit that as being meant for each other.
We are only givien a small part of the story, and even fewer details about the most important parts. We all must fill in the blanks until the writers do it, so fill in those blanks with what your heart tells you, and don't let any of the anti-Liara naysayers convince you otherwise. It's your game, your story, build it the way you want, experience it the way you want, and enjoy what you create.
#18671
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:41
Guest_LesEnfantsTerribles_*
Sunnie22 wrote...
@vigna
I believe that Liara is special. She is still very young and has been away from Asari culture for more than half her life when we find her stuck in a bubble. She hasn't had much influence from the Asari norm to really set those normal Asari values in stone. Shepard has been the only one to spark any attraction in her, and she makes her own decisions based on her feelings, not biased by Asari stigma. Were Shepard and Liara meat to be together? Nobody knows that for sure, but many will tell you, that from the heart, their love for each other is very deep and one can interprit that as being meant for each other.
We are only givien a small part of the story, and even fewer details about the most important parts. We all must fill in the blanks until the writers do it, so fill in those blanks with what your heart tells you, and don't let any of the anti-Liara naysayers convince you otherwise. It's your game, your story, build it the way you want, experience it the way you want, and enjoy what you create.
This. Brilliantly put, Sunnie. Shepard is the first and only person Liara has ever fallen in love for, and it's extremely deep. Just listen to what Liara says in ME1.
I also like to imagine that Liara is the first special person Shepard has ever had in her life too.
#18672
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:49
Sunnie22 wrote...
It's your game, your story, build it the way you want, experience it the way you want, and enjoy what you create.
Im afraid if you ask Bioware that now, they will tell you thats not true. ME1? Yes, that was apparantly their aim. ME2? No, its "Shepard is a character Bioware controls", and "its a third person narrative". Bioware devs have likened Shepard to more like Kratos of God of War than say the protagonist in Dragon Age. I know thats techinically true on some small levels given that Shepard has a voice that cannot be changed, and a small selection of backstories to choose from for example. However I just get the feeling ME1 was the time Bioware wanted to pump out this "Shepard is your character, and the choices are yours".
Right now theyre more likely to say "Its a shooter experience at its core, and weve refined that experience" than talk about the character of Shepard being nobody elses but the players.
Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 18 avril 2010 - 04:50 .
#18673
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 04:52
Sure you can. hit the BBCode button and then remove the list tag and the [*], bullet point gonevigna wrote...
Wow, you really can't even edit those bullet buggers out of the original post. Hmm, that's a new one.
#18674
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 05:01
Well, yes and no. There is a very defined set of paths that SHepard can take in ME2, but there were also the same type of defined paths in ME1. Even in ME2 we still control whether Shepard is a saviour, a total nimrod, or somewhere between. Its still our game, our story, and while we don't really have any control over where the main story line goes, we do have control over a lot of the detail in getting there. This has not changed. This is not the place to debate the type of game, it is what it is, and that we have no control over. But we do have control of how our character looks, acts, who they love, who they befriend, who they hate, and who they despise. Even though it seems the game is less than what it was in the first eppisode, its still our story and I choose to be happy with my Shepards story.Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
Sunnie22 wrote...
It's your game, your story, build it the way you want, experience it the way you want, and enjoy what you create.
Im afraid if you ask Bioware that now, they will tell you thats not true. ME1? Yes, that was apparantly their aim. ME2? No, its "Shepard is a character Bioware controls", and "its a third person narrative". Bioware devs have likened Shepard to more like Kratos of God of War than say the protagonist in Dragon Age. I know thats techinically true on some small levels given that Shepard has a voice that cannot be changed, and a small selection of backstories to choose from for example. However I just get the feeling ME1 was the time Bioware wanted to pump out this "Shepard is your character, and the choices are yours".
Right now theyre more likely to say "Its a shooter experience at its core, and weve refined that experience" than talk about the character of Shepard being nobody elses but the players.
#18675
Posté 18 avril 2010 - 05:06
pic boom:
Modifié par Marcin R, 18 avril 2010 - 05:07 .




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