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That sounds like something I would read, as sad and dark as it would end up :(

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God I just came up with a delightfully evil idea about how Bioware, if they really wanted to stick it to Liara fan's, could have the SB quest end up. I don't think they are that devious, but I am...i have to write this haha.


You're an evil evil man mr screwoff :devil:

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screwoffreg wrote...

God I just came up with a delightfully evil idea about how Bioware, if they really wanted to stick it to Liara fan's, could have the SB quest end up. I don't think they are that devious, but I am...i have to write this haha.


Why not rather spend your time writing nice stuff? I wouldn't read stories that trash my favourite characters anyway.

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bjdbwea wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

God I just came up with a delightfully evil idea about how Bioware, if they really wanted to stick it to Liara fan's, could have the SB quest end up. I don't think they are that devious, but I am...i have to write this haha.


Why not rather spend your time writing nice stuff? I wouldn't read stories that trash my favourite characters anyway.


Its not so evil for our dear Liara.  Sometimes vengeance has a price though, one that we don't pay personally.

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Gah, just got back from a fourteen hour car trip, and have a legion of pages to read.

Anyone hear that a really good artist over at DeviantArt --'Goes by the name Ghostfire-- is doing some Shepard/Liara related artwork? Or at least, she was, her initial sketch turned into something different and I think it's dormant for now, but I'm still hopin'.

And for the people unfamiliar, here's a couple of her pieces.

ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-Tali-s-Reflection-158240850
ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-Scale-Itch-158773390
ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-After-the-Reaper-156785671
ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Avatar-A-Place-for-Prayers-152715578

And about that last one; I know it's not Mass Effect related, but it's one of my favorite pieces from her. And I loved that movie and that part in particular, don't judge me... Image IPB

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A nicely done picture from our very own Shadowcat ^_^

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Moar pics!!! NEED MORE BBG!!!!@@@11shiftone



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justinnstuff wrote...

Moar pics!!! NEED MORE BBG!!!!@@@11shiftone

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I love this one, she looks genuinely happy. :wub:<3:wub:
A happy Beautiful Blue Goddess is the best type of Beautiful Blue Goddess because it means she is in a good state of mind. :wub:<3:wub: Which, means she feels good about herself and everything around her, including her relationship with Shepard (who misses her love very much, but was "confused" during the reunion, lol). :wub:<3:wub:

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A nicely done picture from our very own Shadowcat ^_^


I love Shadowcats work, he is amazing. =]

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You know, I should probably submit my Shepard/Liara artwork to the Liara Fan Club's Album, but I feel like it would be out of place. Image IPB

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You know, I should probably submit my Shepard/Liara artwork to the Liara Fan Club's Album, but I feel like it would be out of place. Image IPB


Why's that? The photo album is for shots of Shep/Liara and Liara fan art.

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

You know, I should probably submit my Shepard/Liara artwork to the Liara Fan Club's Album, but I feel like it would be out of place. Image IPB


Why's that? The photo album is for shots of Shep/Liara and Liara fan art.

Its good, it has maleshep!B)

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[quote]screwoffreg wrote...

[quote]bjdbwea wrote... For the Japanese market we may get h-games involving our favorite ME characters...the humanity...the humanityImage IPB[/quote]
I don't see anything wrong with that....  :devil: [/sarcasm]

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Shavon wrote...

That sounds like something I would read, as sad and dark as it would end up :(


Darkness before the dawn.

Anyway, I have plans to turn my current story into the first part of a trilogy.  The following works will be SHORTER than this one, which burgeoned well beyond my original intent.  I have not the patience to novelize the ME games as some try to do and probably do far better than I could.  God, I can't imagine writing 200,000+ words...

I'll let you know how it progresses.:alien:

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Can't wait Screwoffreg! It sounds like a fascinating idea, even better no that you hinted at some form of a happy ending . . .

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Page 2? Never!!

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Sunnie22 wrote...

The notion that the VO files in the game client dealing with the SB is utter rubbish. Those files are for the original Illium Liara encounter which was cut and altered into what we have now. They are junk files, nothing more. I don't mean to be sounding harsh here but TMA you sure are making a lot of fact like statements when you don't have any more clue than anyone else outside of BioWare does.


I haven't checked the files myself, but if this site is accurate, then the file is clearly labeled as DLC. Aka, Liara_dlc_lead_in_d_S_INT.afc. Not making claims, just pointing stuff out. It either means it's DLC to come, or planned DLC from 6 months ago being junked, or doesn't mean anything. That's my guess.

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As for clues, I'm only making guesses off of what little I know. If my guesses sound more like facts, it's because when I post, I post what I believe from what I know or heard. I put facts together, and make a theory. Don't like them, then I'm sorry.

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

Gah, just got back from a fourteen hour car trip, and have a legion of pages to read.

Anyone hear that a really good artist over at DeviantArt --'Goes by the name Ghostfire-- is doing some Shepard/Liara related artwork? Or at least, she was, her initial sketch turned into something different and I think it's dormant for now, but I'm still hopin'.

And for the people unfamiliar, here's a couple of her pieces.

ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-Tali-s-Reflection-158240850
ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-Scale-Itch-158773390
ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-After-the-Reaper-156785671
ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Avatar-A-Place-for-Prayers-152715578

And about that last one; I know it's not Mass Effect related, but it's one of my favorite pieces from her. And I loved that movie and that part in particular, don't judge me... Image IPB


She's good.  How did you hear she was doing Liara/Shep stuff?  Did she post her original sketch?  I didn't see it when I checked out her gallery.

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Whoa Yeled I thought you dropped off the face of the earth. Welcome back :-)

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TMA LIVE wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

The notion that the VO files in the game client dealing with the SB is utter rubbish. Those files are for the original Illium Liara encounter which was cut and altered into what we have now. They are junk files, nothing more. I don't mean to be sounding harsh here but TMA you sure are making a lot of fact like statements when you don't have any more clue than anyone else outside of BioWare does.


I haven't checked the files myself, but if this site is accurate, then the files are clearly labeled as DLC. Aka, Liara_dlc_lead_in_d_S_INT.afc. Not making claims, just pointing stuff out. It either means it's DLC to come, or planned DLC from 6 months ago being junked, or doesn't mean anything. That's my guess.

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Yes I am aware they have DLC in their names, this has been discussed for months, and all these reports etc etc are all inaccurate and based completely off of the junk files found in the client packages. Place all of the junked files in conversation form and then compare them to all the current real dialog and you will see the parallels. Just because the game shipped with those files with DLC in the name does not mean thats what they are. Instead of spending days rebuilding huge package files and changing code, its easier to tag them with a junk file name and forget them.


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As for clues, I'm only making guesses off of what little I know. If my guesses sound more like facts, it's because when I post, I post what I believe from what I know or heard. I put facts together, and make a theory. Don't like them, then I'm sorry.


If you are only making guesses based off of hearsay you might want to say that. I am not the only one that felt that way. And facts don't make theories, they make facts. Theories are what people come up with when they don't have facts and try to fill in blanks. Ask any theoretical physicist and they will tell you that most theories are usually wrong. Facts are facts and theories are just guesses.

I don't mean to unload on you, some of us are just a bit weary hearing these theories and people reading some clueless article with no basis in fact and calling it fact.
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Im afraid that if there is a Liara DLC released, she wont be in ME3. Let me elaborate; there are many squad members in Mass Effect 2 nd a long list of possible outcomes that could have happnened on the suicide mission. For one player Jack may have died while for another maybe Legion was destroyed. Will BioWare actually give some players Jack in their squad while not giving her to another player? There would be too many possibilites if you could upload a character from Mass Effect 2 and have all those actions follow you into ME3, the gameplay would be way too different if some players got Samara while others did not. What does this mean? Most likely BioWare is going to do something crafty and give us another scenario where something happens that causes the crew to split up again. If Liara is a part of that crew then she wont be in Mass Effect 3. This is just my take on it. Im tired right now so I couldn't really explain well, but if you have questions I can answer them tomorrow.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

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Yes I am aware they have DLC in their names, this has been discussed for months, and all these reports etc etc are all inaccurate and based completely off of the junk files found in the client packages. Place all of the junked files in conversation form and then compare them to all the current real dialog and you will see the parallels. Just because the game shipped with those files with DLC in the name does not mean thats what they are. Instead of spending days rebuilding huge package files and changing code, its easier to tag them with a junk file name and forget them.
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There are many theories out there, as well as thread, etc. and only Bioware can say it's junk or not. Either way, it is a hint of DLC to come, or it isn't. I really don't care. Believe what you want.

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The excuse they used to keep Liara, Ash/Kaiden out of ME2 was because they had to stay alive for their part in ME3, that is confirmed by statements from Bioware. We will see Liara and Ash/Kaiden even if there ends up being any DLC or expansion.

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Im afraid that if there is a Liara DLC released, she wont be in ME3. Let me elaborate; there are many squad members in Mass Effect 2 nd a long list of possible outcomes that could have happnened on the suicide mission. For one player Jack may have died while for another maybe Legion was destroyed. Will BioWare actually give some players Jack in their squad while not giving her to another player? There would be too many possibilites if you could upload a character from Mass Effect 2 and have all those actions follow you into ME3, the gameplay would be way too different if some players got Samara while others did not. What does this mean? Most likely BioWare is going to do something crafty and give us another scenario where something happens that causes the crew to split up again. If Liara is a part of that crew then she wont be in Mass Effect 3. This is just my take on it. Im tired right now so I couldn't really explain well, but if you have questions I can answer them tomorrow.


It doesn't make any sense that they wouldn't have her in ME3. Game designers have to be practical with disk space issues and time/budget constraints so using a character that has to be alive in everyone's game is the only logical way to go. Are they more liekly to put the time/money into a character that might have to be replaced by another if they die in ME2? No.

However, I doubt we'll see her as a squadmate to prevent her from dying in the suicide mission.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

The excuse they used to keep Liara, Ash/Kaiden out of ME2 was because they had to stay alive for their part in ME3, that is confirmed by statements from Bioware. We will see Liara and Ash/Kaiden even if there ends up being any DLC or expansion.


this whole thing about an expansion is just such a longshot, obviously i wish for it, not to mention it would be a good way to generate more income. itd be great to have liara back, but they introduced so many new characters im curious how theyre going to great a new party list at all? maybe an expansion could even help the issue actually, by starting that process early.