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[DigitalMaster37]

Sunnie22 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Evening, Sunnie!

I think this page needs a pic:

I do love that picture!

Liara did some interesting idle animations in Elevators, this one is def a good one!

God I love that Pic!!!

[Jax Sparrow]

I love that armor... She wears only that series, or Titan, in the game... even on insanity. I just wish the Predator suits looked as kewl as that or Onyx

justinnstuff wrote...  I think we'll hear something about DLC here at E3.

I pray for more... DLC plus a massive Expansion.

Modifié par Jax Sparrow, 24 avril 2010 - 04:23 .

[HTTP 404]

Shavon wrote...

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

Liara could be a squadmate in the ME2 expansion. emphasis on COULD.

That would be awesome!

there are hidden sound files in the game that suggest mission(s) against the shadow broker.  there is a sound bit of Liara confronting the shadow broker.

[WilliamShatner]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Empire strikes back story was just like ME2. It was hated by the fans. RotJ came out and now Empire Strikes back is a fan fav. The same could happen to ME2. Just wait till ME3 before you start bashing continuity and stuff. That is all.

What the hell are you talking about?  As someone who saw Empire when it was originally released everyone thought it was pretty much the most awesome thing since, well Star Wars.  And when we talked about it during the ride home it was "Wow, that was awesome", not "what the hell was that about".

And no ME2 is not like Empire.  Empire is great sequel that takes the original story and characters and BUILDS on them and takes the story down an unexpected but logical path and progresses the characters and their relationships.  ME2 does not.

[screwoffreg]

WilliamShatner wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Empire strikes back story was just like ME2. It was hated by the fans. RotJ came out and now Empire Strikes back is a fan fav. The same could happen to ME2. Just wait till ME3 before you start bashing continuity and stuff. That is all.

What the hell are you talking about?  As someone who saw Empire when it was originally released everyone thought it was pretty much the most awesome thing since, well Star Wars.  And when we talked about it during the ride home it was "Wow, that was awesome", not "what the hell was that about".

And no ME2 is not like Empire.  Empire is great sequel that takes the original story and characters and BUILDS on them and takes the story down an unexpected but logical path and progresses the characters and their relationships.  ME2 does not.

Yeah, I do not remember people saying Empire was a bad movie...most loved it at the time

Return of the Jedi had good parts...but the ewoks...ugh what were you thinking Lucas

Modifié par screwoffreg, 24 avril 2010 - 04:48 .

[Nozybidaj]

WilliamShatner wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Empire strikes back story was just like ME2. It was hated by the fans. RotJ came out and now Empire Strikes back is a fan fav. The same could happen to ME2. Just wait till ME3 before you start bashing continuity and stuff. That is all.

What the hell are you talking about?  As someone who saw Empire when it was originally released everyone thought it was pretty much the most awesome thing since, well Star Wars.  And when we talked about it during the ride home it was "Wow, that was awesome", not "what the hell was that about".

And no ME2 is not like Empire.  Empire is great sequel that takes the original story and characters and BUILDS on them and takes the story down an unexpected but logical path and progresses the characters and their relationships.  ME2 does not.

This pretty much.  Where do people come up with this stuff?

Anyone that would compare ME2 to ESB has either never played ME2 or never seen ESB.  There is really nothing in common between the two.  Lucas never said to say "Go read the comic" or "Just wait till Jedi" for things to make sense and seem logical.  It already was from the start. 

Hell even the man that created Jar Jar Binks knew that you don't take established characters and just toss them out the window.  Just think about that for a minute.......

[Nozybidaj]

bjdbwea wrote...

Jack Package wrote...

In the trilogy the middle part is always the hardest to do. Liara was stalled and kept away from your squad in ME2 and I am optimistic that in ME 3 the plot around her will be awesome. The devs were just bound to the guideline that ME1 LIs should not die and.. well... it wasn't handled the best way possible I'd say..

If I hear that one more time...

Please. It doesn't excuse anything. It may be harder to do, but it's far from impossible. The matter of the fact is that indeed all additional parts of a trilogy, and all that continuity stuff, isn't a trivial thing to write. It is always going to require more effort and time than writing one self-contained story. But if you aim and promise to create a trilogy, you better make sure you are up to it - or leave it be and make stand-alone games. Which is in effect almost what they did, but of course they pretend otherwise (to boost sales no doubt). Fine, but then I'll judge it by that standard too and will expect what can be expected.

LOL yeah, "but second chapters are haaarrrrdddd" seems to be the common excuse. /shrug

Still the fact remains even if it is just an excuse, you only need an excuse when you've already done something wrong.

[kraidy1117]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_strikes_back#Reaction

read the reception line, and if you want to see that that stuff is true, just click on the links at the the bottom. That is all. Theirs no point bashing ME2 story until ME3 comes out.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 24 avril 2010 - 05:16 .

[Nozybidaj]

Hehe I like how a random wiki article mentions "mixed reviews" then goes on to list all the awards and box office successes it had. lol

[kraidy1117]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Hehe I like how a random wiki article mentions "mixed reviews" then goes on to list all the awards and box office successes it had. lol

Yet you did not even click on the link that proves alot of people where upset in the story. It was praised for its sfx, not it's story. Next read before you blab your mouth like a moron. It's not hard.

[Nozybidaj]

/sigh We so need an ignore option on this forum, how do you get rid of trolls these days? Is there a Bat-Troll Repellent or something we need to get? Nah, guess just ignoring works just as well.

[kraidy1117]

troll? How am I troll? I am infact proving a point, I will laugh my ass off if ME2 gets the same treatment ESB got when ME3 comes out. Then it will shut-up people like you who moan just because a character is not in a video game.

[Nozybidaj]

screwoffreg wrote...

Yeah, I do not remember people saying Empire was a bad movie...most loved it at the time

Return of the Jedi had good parts...but the ewoks...ugh what were you thinking Lucas

If I had to choose between ewoks or Collectors, I'm going with ewoks.

[kraidy1117]

Nozybidaj wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Yeah, I do not remember people saying Empire was a bad movie...most loved it at the time

Return of the Jedi had good parts...but the ewoks...ugh what were you thinking Lucas

If I had to choose between ewoks or Collectors, I'm going with ewoks.

Ewoks never came in EBS and Collectors are gone for good, nice try.

[WilliamShatner]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

Hehe I like how a random wiki article mentions "mixed reviews" then goes on to list all the awards and box office successes it had. lol

Yet you did not even click on the link that proves alot of people where upset in the story. It was praised for its sfx, not it's story. Next read before you blab your mouth like a moron. It's not hard.

Hmm... am I going to trust myself, who lived through the period or a wikipedia entry that was probably edited by a 14 year old?

Their "sources" by the way are George Lucas commentaries in which he spends most of the time trying to justify the prequels by claiming that the originals were just like them.  So no, not reliable by any stretch of the imagination.

And no.  A film or game, whether the are part of a trilogy or not has work as cohesive story and satisfying work of drama by itself.  Saying "wait until part three" is a cop-out of the highest degree.  I wrote quite a bit about that a couple of pages back, I highly recommend reading them.

[Slakky]

AOL keyword TRUTHINESS

[Nozybidaj]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

I want Bioware to commit to this lazy excuse of a cameo at least. Give it some worth. I dont want it to be "Liara did what she had to do, and you should just continue the relationship like nothing happened".

Well Dink, I'd actually be relieved if they did that.  If we can wrap up the whole SB story in the expac and BW simply just never mentions any of it ever again, I am more than willing to play along and pretend it never happened.  Like Superman IV, we just pretend it never existed.

To be honest though, Im just expectng an easy moving on for Shepard and Liara, so as to make the romance accessible to new players (because I dont think there is a chance in hell they will restrict the romance to ME1 players who didnt cheat. I imagine Bioware thinks its just not cost effective that way.)

Same here, kinda lame that ME3 looks like it is just going to be another copy/paste job retreading everything we already did in ME1. 

[kraidy1117]

WilliamShatner wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

Hehe I like how a random wiki article mentions "mixed reviews" then goes on to list all the awards and box office successes it had. lol

Yet you did not even click on the link that proves alot of people where upset in the story. It was praised for its sfx, not it's story. Next read before you blab your mouth like a moron. It's not hard.

Hmm... am I going to trust myself, who lived through the period or a wikipedia entry that was probably edited by a 14 year old?

Their "sources" by the way are George Lucas commentaries in which he spends most of the time trying to justify the prequels by claiming that the originals were just like them.  So no, not reliable by any stretch of the imagination.

And no.  A film or game, whether the are part of a trilogy or not has work as cohesive story and satisfying work of drama by itself.  Saying "wait until part three" is a cop-out of the highest degree.  I wrote quite a bit about that a couple of pages back, I highly recommend reading them.

*facepalm* funny because where I lived people hated ESB. I remember walking out of the theater and complaing. You forget what the point of the last part is do you? It's to tie everything together, the second act is to get things ready. ME2 did that with the Geth/Quarian war, Cerberus, the Genophage, the SB and even Miris father. If ME3 concludeds those and they tie into defeting the Reapers, gues what ME2 was in fact the second act and it will be better then ME3, becauset he whole Reaper story sucks compared to the side stories. You would see this if you where not high on ME love.

Just because you liked EBS does not mean everyone did, at the time it was a disapointment, just like ME2 story, so instead of bashing ME2 story or bashing the game because Liara is not in it, you should maybe wonder how the side stories will tie up. Good day Liara fans. If you overhype your selfs for ME3 like you guys did for ME2 you will be disapointed and thats your fault.

[Pronema]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ewoks never came in EBS and Collectors are gone for good, nice try.

Yeah well, so is Yavin which means Ewoks are "gone for good" too so suck it. 

[Nozybidaj]

Swear I am going to have to start putting up signs in this thread.

Modifié par Nozybidaj, 24 avril 2010 - 05:48 .

[Nozybidaj]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Well, I'm heading off to bed now - I leave you with this slightly further-along WIP...

This is going to be epic!  /squee

[kraidy1117]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Swear I am going to have to start putting up signs in this thread.

Troll meaning: The intent on getting a rise out of someone.

I am in fact trying to get you guys to open your eyes, thats not trolling. You guys are just being too stupid to even accept. 

[Nozybidaj]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Ultimately though Dink, just why the hell are we having such an intense debate over something that's so poorly written and has got as many holes as it has? You saw the incredible frustration and anguish a few weeks ago when Redemption concluded, and it told us absolutely nothing. Diddly squat. No insight at all whatsoever.

Yeah seems like a lot of arguing over nothing.  We all agree the writing in ME2 was crap.  Lets just leave it at that.