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[scmadsen]

Ok, I see what you two are saying. She might off been kept kind of away from people, or only had servants and no real friends or people to interact with. We know she was looked down upon for being a pureblood...but no one dared say anything to her about it, because of her mother. So we gather from that, that she had no friends to talk to, play with, while growing up. I don't think Liara would be unkind to her servants, but I don't think they would be friendly to her, as they would fear upsetting her or her mother.

[Erinlana]

scmadsen wrote...

Ok, I see what you two are saying. She might off been kept kind of away from people, or only had servants and no real friends or people to interact with. We know she was looked down upon for being a pureblood...but no one dared say anything to her about it, because of her mother. So we gather from that, that she had no friends to talk to, play with, while growing up. I don't think Liara would be unkind to her servants, but I don't think they would be friendly to her, as they would fear upsetting her or her mother.

Yes i understand what you are saying , she is a sensitive person in some repects but for her standards and culture she is"barely a child" in her own word's so we must also take into account that she is just learning about the world also.

[jtav]

I got the impression that it has a quasi-religious tone. Shiala does mention learning at Benezia's feet or something like that. I think Liara is naturally rather reserved, and the ostracism she received didn't help. Though I think it's also possible she has a bit of a temper that she represses. I can see a very young (equivalent of 6-7) Liara lashing out at the first kid to call her a pureblood and Benezia being terribly disappointed in her.



*reads last few pages* I am starting to think I am a freak for liking both Liara and my ME2 team.

[jtav]

Too late. Already attached. I'm choosing to remain optimistic, though my enjoyment of ME3 will not depend on any particular squaddie being recruitable.

[bjdbwea]

jtav wrote...

*reads last few pages* I am starting to think I am a freak for liking both Liara and my ME2 team.

I see you're a fan of Miranda. For me she's the only companion who has any value as a potential LI in ME 2, and I certainly support your cause to see her in ME 3. I like Mordin too, he's the only one in ME 2 where I feel the character really got the attention from the developers that any companion should get.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 25 avril 2010 - 01:07 .

[jtav]

Mordin is great. I have this weakness for characters who are smart. It's part of why I like Liara, the rest being that I find the idea behind the SB plot interesting, even if her motivations are muddled.

[Erinlana]

bjdbwea wrote...

jtav wrote...

*reads last few pages* I am starting to think I am a freak for liking both Liara and my ME2 team.

I see you're a fan of Miranda. For me she's the only companion who has any value as a potential LI in ME 2, and I certainly support your cause to see her in ME 3. I like Mordin too, he's the only one in ME 2 where I feel the character really got the attention from the developers that any companion should get.

Mordin is awesome ! , i enjoy listening to what he has to say as he doesnt really speak alot to my femshep =(

[Asheer_Khan]

Hihi... if i would have choice to set up my own ME 3 team i would chose Lia in first place then comes:

Ash- somehow i like her despite Horizon however i found fact that she reuses to join me rather positive than negative.

Miranda- after third run i started to like her only wishing that she can be interacted on the "friendly" level so i would have chance known her much better.

Jack- same case as Miranda.

Morodin -yes he is great character and could easy be again part of the team.

I think he and Liara could created great Normandy science team.

Kasumi - i known that she is optional but i still hope that in ME 3 she will become a fully fleshed squaddie.

Shiala - after finding cure for her and killing once for all that freaky Thorian -( no you read correct i started to assuming that he didn't died after all and that's why she and the colonists become sick).

Legion and Grunt can remain however it's hard to say what roles they could get in ME 3

Tali could have big role in flotilla and it's very possible that she might be asked to take her father's place in Admirality Board.but if she will chose to stay on Normandy she is more than welcomed.



Rest of the team is free to go since they don't contribute much in overall but i hope that Bioware will presented one or two brand new squaddies anyway.



But one thing will be sure once Lia will come on board she will be my second in Command.(unless Ash come too so she will be my second).



And Mr Moreau... well he need to be very carefull not to ****** off Shep or Lia again or he will have "serious" talk whit both girls.

[Asheer_Khan]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Game news outlets reporting on the speculation surrounding the Liara DLC seemed to have dried up somewhat. Come on, they have to say something soon about Liara. I hope...

Most of those speculations were based at old informations anyway so until Ea/Bioware won't issue any clear statement  about DLCs or expansion such speculations are pointless.

[IndigoWolfe]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
 Question is, why keep her alive? He seemed to have no qualms about hiring Wrex to kill Fist in ME1, so why is he keeping Liara alive? More importantly, is this just another huge plot hole that will be glossed over?

If Nozybidaj were here, his answer would be a big freaking yes.

[Noxis6]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I was having a think, and I wonder if the Shadow Broker does see Liara as a genuine, legitimate threat? He did place Nyxeris there as a double agent, after all. What her real role was is up for speculation, but I theorise that she would be feeding her misinformation about the Shadow Broker's location, and possible leads. The fact that she lied to Liara about the true identity of the Observer proves that.

Is the Shadow Broker genuinely concerned about Liara? I think so, yes. He saw how she sabotaged his attempt to sell Shepard to the Collectors, he knows she was instrumental in stopping Saren and saving the Citadel. He must be aware of how strong and capable a person Liara is, aswell as her intelligence. Question is, why keep her alive? He seemed to have no qualms about hiring Wrex to kill Fist in ME1, so why is he keeping Liara alive? More importantly, is this just another huge plot hole that will be glossed over?

Frankly its the old question why the SB doesnt simply move in and kill her,he had two years to do it long before she gained any importance or was even close to find him.
As for Nyxeris its safe to say she would have at least attempted to kill Liara should she find something of importance.
Besides I still find it totally unbelievable that the SB doesnt bother to punish the person who messed up his once in a lifetime deal with the collectors,while he imideatly hires an well known and expirienced Krogan bounty hunter to take out a small time criminal that just double crossed him

[ratzerman]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Question is, why keep her alive? He seemed to have no qualms about hiring Wrex to kill Fist in ME1, so why is he keeping Liara alive? More importantly, is this just another huge plot hole that will be glossed over?

To quote Burt Reynolds in the cinematic masterpiece, Smokey and the Bandit...... "That's a big 10-4, good buddy."

[Nozybidaj]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
 Question is, why keep her alive? He seemed to have no qualms about hiring Wrex to kill Fist in ME1, so why is he keeping Liara alive? More importantly, is this just another huge plot hole that will be glossed over?

If Nozybidaj were here, his answer would be a big freaking yes.

It is what it is.

[Asheer_Khan]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I was having a think, and I wonder if the Shadow Broker does see Liara as a genuine, legitimate threat? He did place Nyxeris there as a double agent, after all. What her real role was is up for speculation, but I theorise that she would be feeding her misinformation about the Shadow Broker's location, and possible leads. The fact that she lied to Liara about the true identity of the Observer proves that.

Is the Shadow Broker genuinely concerned about Liara? I think so, yes. He saw how she sabotaged his attempt to sell Shepard to the Collectors, he knows she was instrumental in stopping Saren and saving the Citadel. He must be aware of how strong and capable a person Liara is, aswell as her intelligence. Question is, why keep her alive? He seemed to have no qualms about hiring Wrex to kill Fist in ME1, so why is he keeping Liara alive? More importantly, is this just another huge plot hole that will be glossed over?

I think he sees her more like worthly opponent than threat.
If Nyxieris would have order to kill Lia she could do that much early using various "routes", but apparently by blowing up his attempt of making deal whit Collectors she "earned" some sort of respect because she was first species ever which dare to direct opposing him.
But other explanaton could be that Liara after all posess something too vluable for SB and what might be used to compromise his position in general.

If SB want to kill her he would hired even Thane to do the job since drells (at least some of them) are well known assasins instead planting observer as her "secretary".

No..., somehow i hink however that this is some sort of plot hole which (i hope at least) will be cleared in DLC since there is too many unknown factors here.

Modifié par Asheer_Khan, 25 avril 2010 - 03:01 .

[ratzerman]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Or again, was it just a bad mis-script?

Bingo.
<_<

[Noxis6]

ratzerman wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Or again, was it just a bad mis-script?

Bingo.
<_<

I second that

[vigna]

Thirdededed.

[Noxis6]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I would have said the data cache that Liara is in possession of that details the full extent of his deal with the Collectors, and by proxy the Reapers, but I don't think he's aware that Liara has this data, or that she knows about what he's done.

I think this data cache will serve it's purpose later on, when it turns out Liara has known that the Shadow Broker is aiding the Reapers, and has been working to stop him in order to cripple a possible way the Reapers could exert their dominance over the galaxy when they invade.

Even if that ominous cache Liara holds at the end of the comic contains something like this,wouldnt that be just one more reason to kill her at once instead of having her run around with it
Beside I'm not so sure if we really need to shove the reapers into it and I doubt the collectors go around braging about who they are working for nor would Harbinger reveal what he really is so easily.
Also its questionable if Liara could contribute anything to the war effort by fighting the SB,should he be under reaper control,its safe to say they have already taken what they wanted and even without the SB they still have the upper hand in this war,mainly because they know the full extend of the relay network,they still have the element of suprise for the most part and they will make the first strike

[vigna]

Noxis6 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I would have said the data cache that Liara is in possession of that details the full extent of his deal with the Collectors, and by proxy the Reapers, but I don't think he's aware that Liara has this data, or that she knows about what he's done.

I think this data cache will serve it's purpose later on, when it turns out Liara has known that the Shadow Broker is aiding the Reapers, and has been working to stop him in order to cripple a possible way the Reapers could exert their dominance over the galaxy when they invade.

Even if that ominous cache Liara holds at the end of the comic contains something like this,wouldnt that be just one more reason to kill her at once instead of having her run around with it
Beside I'm not so sure if we really need to shove the reapers into it and I doubt the collectors go around braging about who they are working for nor would Harbinger reveal what he really is so easily.
Also its questionable if Liara could contribute anything to the war effort by fighting the SB,should he be under reaper control,its safe to say they have already taken what they wanted and even without the SB they still have the upper hand in this war,mainly because they know the full extend of the relay network,they still have the element of suprise for the most part and they will make the first strike

Don't forget the Cerberus information that EDI is decrypting. Both could paly a  vital role in future DLC/XP or ME3.  The cache could play into the SB story..ala Liara, and the Cerberus info could play into Shep needing help from the Alliance..ala Ash/Kaidan.