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[Goodwood]

justinnstuff wrote...



Here it is!

EDIT - Thanks I'm going to need it!

Hoo-ahh, that's more like it!

Well, maybe a hair too fast...but at this point, I'm not complaining.

[Goodwood]

justinnstuff wrote...

I can tweak it a bit, it goes from .03 to .12 seconds between frames, that's a large jump. I could try .06 and see how that works. I'll do it tomorrow though. It will update the image you quoted as well. So if you use it, it will update across the board. Neat trick I found out with photobucket 

Take your time, mate, no pressure...

[Noxis6]

Goodwood wrote...
The novel Revelation seems to point at indoctrination for the Shadow Broker acting so oddly in his/her/it's dealings. The mercenary commander realizes that he's doing things that are out of character for him to be doing, even things that are counterintuitive to his own goals, yet he does them anyway, all the time wondering what the kriff is making him do these things. He ends up on the wrong end of a Saren Arterius Renegade Option for his troubles, when he could probably have avoided it, and this leads to Saren finding Sovereign.

Reaper logic thus far seems to indicate that Harbinger, or whichever is controlling the Shadow Broker through indoctrination, will only discard a "tool" once it has used up all of its value. Unlike your stereotypical villain, a Reaper will not callusly destroy a minion for having failed; it will simply sideline that minion into another role, or perhaps retain it in its original capacity on the off chance that they can be useful again. If the Shadow Broker is indeed indoctrinated, then that's further incentive for Shepard to help Liara to destroy him/her/it; I would add that it would be an interesting side-effect for Liara to then assume control (pardon the pun) of the Shadow Broker's old organization, adding it to her own. That way, even if the Council won't back Shepard and/or she leaves Cerberus in the dust, at least she won't be blind to goings-on within the galaxy.

Well I'm still on the fence whether the SB really is a reaper slave now or if his apathy is just bad writing again I wouldnt really disclose the later
As for his use for the reapers well I still think its limited,if they have any use at all for him,personally I think one of their first goals during the initial invasion will be to take the citadel and odds are they succed since they seem to be to most powerful fighting force in the galaxy,unless of course Bioware throws something in like they were weakened by their "march" or a bunch of them dies on the way

As for Liara taking over well thats pretty much the contence of the cut soundfiles,again I might add that I'm sceptic what and information network of any size can do against an enemy that doesnt store its data on random terminals and you cant infiltrate,also I doubt there are frontlines in a galatic war so working behind enemy lines seems unlikely
The other thing the council basicly must act in ME3 as I saw the ending it seems to have the evidence s/he needs to get them to move,unless Bioware does another BS move with council and have them declare Shepard gone rouge or something

[screwoffreg]

It would be stupid for Liara to take over and not go on the Normandy. You mean an unchained AI like EDI couldn't do most of that work for her?

[Goodwood]

screwoffreg wrote...

It would be stupid for Liara to take over and not go on the Normandy. You mean an unchained AI like EDI couldn't do most of that work for her?

EDI may be unshackled now, but that doesn't mean she's all-powerful or even all-knowing. AIs need experience, just like organics; Legion is a prime example of this.

[Noxis6]

Goodwood wrote...
EDI may be unshackled now, but that doesn't mean she's all-powerful or even all-knowing. AIs need experience, just like organics; Legion is a prime example of this.

Well at any rate EDI is faster at reading through the SBs data than Liara ever could be

[Goodwood]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Huh, people seem to forget that if you listen to what Liara says in the cut audio files, the only reasons she's temporarily continuing on as an information broker is to look through the data in order to find information on the Collectors that could help Shepard in the upcoming battles. Liara was going to help Shepard in the best way she could, joining the Normandy aside. That was BW's original intention in terms of finding a reason Liara couldn't join the squad, she was going to help Shepard.

Like what is shown in ME2, as soon as the Shadow Broker is dealt with Liara is going back with Shepard, as she expresses desire to in ME2. Her only motivation for working as an info broker, a job she clearly hates, is going after the SB. Once he's gone, then she's back with Shepard.

The only time I can see using "cut content" to fill in the gaps for any given game's storyline is when it is clear that the developer abandoned the product (KotOR II: TSL is a prime example of this). That said, it does seem like a good explanation, and lacking further data, one that is perfectly acceptable. I got that same vibe out of Liara; she's a good information broker, true, but she clearly has no love for the position. Regardless, she still wants to help Shepard any way she can, and IMHO, if that means managing a network of contacts, etc., then so be it. This ties into my own thoughts of how ME3 could potentially play out.

I like the idea of Shepard forming her own "front" against the Reapers, a group not unlike the salarian STG or the Spectres, or even a bit of Cerberus (the non-evil parts, such as logistical support). That way, even if she has the backing of the Council or Cerberus itself (depending on outcome/alignment), Shepard is still free to operate independently as the leader of a rogue cell that the Reapers cannot track or know about. In a way, it would be not unlike Garrus's own vigilante group, but scaled up to deal with the bigger threat, or just to help bring the galaxy together by taking out destabilizing elements (like what Revan did during his war against the Republic) or simply forging diplomatic ties.

[Goodwood]

Noxis6 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...
EDI may be unshackled now, but that doesn't mean she's all-powerful or even all-knowing. AIs need experience, just like organics; Legion is a prime example of this.

Well at any rate EDI is faster at reading through the SBs data than Liara ever could be.

True, but like I said, EDI may not have the experience necessary to correctly interpret the data. Liara does, and she can teach EDI what she knows, freeing her up to kick ass alongside Shepard.

[Nomex11]

[Goodwood]

Nomex11 wrote...

<is hypnotized>

[Goodwood]

Thing of it is, though, if she does succeed in dismantling her organization and the SB's, then someone else will inevitably arise to form their own network. Cerberus, for example, has its own formidable web of spies and lies.

[Ulathar]

Nomex11 wrote...

I LOVE it

It's really
you know :-)

[Noxis6]

Goodwood wrote...

Thing of it is, though, if she does succeed in dismantling her organization and the SB's, then someone else will inevitably arise to form their own network. Cerberus, for example, has its own formidable web of spies and lies.

Well dismantiling doesnt seem that hard,since most of it seems to run on a paycheck basis you just need to stop signing them,of course there will always be something new but there might be some fighting and it will take some time until someone as powerful as th SB will arise

Although despite Liaras statements I see it as doubtfull that if she is given this vast network by the writers they have her just drop it,besides its a convinient option to keep her out of the squad again in ME3 having her be "too busy" again,also I'm quite under the impression that what we consider a significant role and what Bioware considers one differs quite a bit

[screwoffreg]

Noxis6 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Thing of it is, though, if she does succeed in dismantling her organization and the SB's, then someone else will inevitably arise to form their own network. Cerberus, for example, has its own formidable web of spies and lies.

Well dismantiling doesnt seem that hard,since most of it seems to run on a paycheck basis you just need to stop signing them,of course there will always be something new but there might be some fighting and it will take some time until someone as powerful as th SB will arise

Although despite Liaras statements I see it as doubtfull that if she is given this vast network by the writers they have her just drop it,besides its a convinient option to keep her out of the squad again in ME3 having her be "too busy" again,also I'm quite under the impression that what we consider a significant role and what Bioware considers one differs quite a bit

I think the whole I am the Shadow Broker thing and have to stay was a bit too much even for Bioware.  It was just convenient to keep her out of ME 2, but instead they just settled on the simpler "I want revenge" angle.