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[Asheer_Khan]

Well in my games Morinth is not a factor (whit all due respect but my Shep is not crazy to let mentally unstable harpy on board).

And you forget one more Asari which could be a factor too... apparently Shiala is very powerful too and very possibly she teach Lia some "tricks" when she grows up.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

yorkj86 wrote...

@Lizardviking & Marcin:

I don't consider biotic potential in my calculations, because that's a bit more vague than what we're shown in-game.

If you take them on their current powerlevel i'll think it will go like this.

Morinth/Samara>Jack>Liara>Wrex>Miranda/Kaiden>Thane>Jacob.

[Marcin K]

 attention all!
from survivors thread:

Jzadek72 wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

Blue is true always. Kasumi goes down today...

Sadly, after that, Liara looks set to go. Unless we hit them with the full force of the Liara fans. Rally the troops!

so:

Asheer_Khan wrote...

Beware the power of "Espressolarity" or you will find yourself in coffee cup.

conclusion: tomorrow vote in SURVIVORS THREAD BUT REMEBER-NOT ON LIARA

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Changing the subject slightly, I was having a little think and I wondered if they will have Liara guaranteed to survive ME3 too. If you think about it, if they have a ME game set hundreds of years after the original trilogy and the story of Commander Shepard, then Liara is the only character that could provide a link back to the original story, to create a reference back to what happened hundreds of years before.

If you import a save in which Liara was Shepard's love interest, perhaps they could show her with her and Shepard's daughters, and she could speak fondly of Shepard and how much she misses her. Hell, they could have Liara reminiscing about Shepard regardless, as she obviously is the person that means the absolute most to her in the entire galaxy.

You know what?

That's an awesome idea!

[jlb524]

Marcin R wrote...

hmm i suppose SURVIVORS thread became a battleground.... come help in battle i can't stand the line alone forever....

They're morons, I find it best just to ignore them.

[jlb524]

screwoffreg wrote...

Jack is the most powerful human biotic in the Galaxy, or so the game claims. We don't know how that would compare to an asari like Samara or Liara. Based on the fact she can blow through YMIR mechs and an entire prison garrison, something tells me she could hold her own against the best.

I always wondered if Adept-Shepard was more powerful than Jack.  If you're going by in-game powers, then definitely yes.  By this measure, even a Sentinel or Vanguard Shepard would be more powerful than her. 

Going by 'cut-scene magic', Jack would be more powerful as a biotic Shepard doesn't get a cool cut-scene.

I still think asari like Samara or Liara are more powerful than Jack, as they have a natural affinity for biotics, and have been using them longer.

[jlb524]

yorkj86 wrote...

She dropped a space-station on a moon, and punched Purgatory apart with her crazy biotic brawling.

Did she do that with biotics, though?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

jlb524 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

She dropped a space-station on a moon, and punched Purgatory apart with her crazy biotic brawling.

Did she do that with biotics, though?

Doubt it. But i could imagine her taking out the security with her biotics alone.

[screwoffreg]

Its hard to tell how powerful biotics really are as you really only see a limited selection of powers and their effects are toned down considerably for gameplay purposes. I could imagine, unfettered by in game balance rules, a true biotic could be pretty devastating. A biotic like Jack...well, that would be quite the sight.

[Nozybidaj]

jlb524 wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Jack is the most powerful human biotic in the Galaxy, or so the game claims. We don't know how that would compare to an asari like Samara or Liara. Based on the fact she can blow through YMIR mechs and an entire prison garrison, something tells me she could hold her own against the best.

I always wondered if Adept-Shepard was more powerful than Jack.  If you're going by in-game powers, then definitely yes.  By this measure, even a Sentinel or Vanguard Shepard would be more powerful than her. 

Going by 'cut-scene magic', Jack would be more powerful as a biotic Shepard doesn't get a cool cut-scene.

I still think asari like Samara or Liara are more powerful than Jack, as they have a natural affinity for biotics, and have been using them longer.

Agreed, and I hadn't thought about Shep! 

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

screwoffreg wrote...

Jack is the most powerful human biotic in the Galaxy, or so the game claims. We don't know how that would compare to an asari like Samara or Liara. Based on the fact she can blow through YMIR mechs and an entire prison garrison, something tells me she could hold her own against the best.

I wouldnt count the ME2 spanking off over its own characters as much evidence of anything. Put Jack near a YMIR mech on her own and it will tear her a new ass. That cutscene should be disregarded as the rubbish it is: evidence of ME2s ridiculous and over the top approach to characters. They spend their time trying to come across so "badass" that for a lot of folks, its annoying.

[Asheer_Khan]

I think best test over thier Biotic ability is Bio-bubble in C-Base.

Jack and Samara can hold her till gate reach and after that both are still able to produce powerful aftershock clearing corridor from any chasers.

But when Miranda or Jacob is used as bubble holder they fail in most crucial moment because of lacking endure.



But again, Jack could be considered as powerful (but for the high price) biotic only in compare to other human biotics but she will never reach Asari level of natural born biotics.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

jlb524 wrote...

I always wondered if Adept-Shepard was more powerful than Jack.  If you're going by in-game powers, then definitely yes.  By this measure, even a Sentinel or Vanguard Shepard would be more powerful than her. 

Going by 'cut-scene magic', Jack would be more powerful as a biotic Shepard doesn't get a cool cut-scene.

I still think asari like Samara or Liara are more powerful than Jack, as they have a natural affinity for biotics, and have been using them longer.

Thats true. Due to Biowares laziness in always defaulting to the soldier (I dont think Shepard has ever ONCE utilised a biotic move during a cutscene) we dont know what Shepards "cutscene tainted" biotic power is like.

In some ways Im glad, given what I just said about Jack and her stupid over the top cutscene.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

With biotic shep in the mix it would go like this.



Morinth>Liara>Samara>Jack>Adept shep>Vanguard/Sentinel shep> Wrex>Miranda/Kaiden>Thane>Jacob

[drunken pyromaniac]

Hello everyone. Just dropping by for a bump from the Ash thread.

ME1 LIs for ME3!

[Nozybidaj]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Hello everyone. Just dropping by for a bump from the Ash thread.
ME1 LIs for ME3!

Dancing Thane is full of win!

[Marcin K]

well-time has come for me to go OFFLINE overnight, so cya all tomorrow, have a great night & dream bout Liara:)

i leave this as my today's legacy for you:

[Asheer_Khan]

Unless Kaidan is a Jedi he don't comeback in my ME 3 no matter what... but for Ash i would even grant Jacob his wish to go through vents.



But for me priority number one character to comeback is :

[jlb524]

I always thought of Liara as a biotics prodigy, due probably to both genetics and upbringing/training. I would guess she's the most powerful asari of her age. She's, of course, not as powerful as some older asari like Samara or some of the matriarchs.



I'd still rank Liara above any human biotic, including Jack. Jack is probably more powerful than most asari Liara's age though.

[jlb524]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Hello everyone. Just dropping by for a bump from the Ash thread.
ME1 LIs for ME3!

Yay!  I want Ash back almost just as badly as Liara, b/c she was my Shepard's 'bro' in ME1.

Now my Shep is loveless and bro-less