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Erinlana wrote...
Hey !
I just finished up on another piece of fanart for my 2nd attempt! again i didnt create the background i just cut the image feathered it & added text and blended it in .
i will have another for tomorow but right now i feel like i am going to drop dead.. O__O
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JaylaClark wrote...
Okay... mostly staying full-on clear of the dink-les ... discussion, but I do have to say something very clearly about something on the side of it -- this notion that EA hates Liara and wants to avoid controversy?
*looks at her Sims 3 save with Jayla married to Kyra with their adopted teenaged daughter Crystal -- clearly not in Massachusetts or Canada, by the way, the weather's too good*
Can you guess why I don't buy that concept?
LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
The fact that Feron is nothing more than a plot device and only exists because BW needed to find something new for Redemption to bring to the table indicates just what their full intention is with him to me. ie Not alot.
Like I've said before, it's practically rammed down our throats over 4 damn issues that Liara doesn't like him on a personal level, and seems to be suffering survivor's guilt and only appreciates his sacrifice, and not him personally. They did that so that the jealous and the paranoid would not have something to worry about. Guess they failed with that, too...
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TMA LIVE wrote...
To me, I almost wish Feron and Liara did have an affair, or at least an attempt which Liara turns down last minute because she can't let Shepard go so soon after his/her death. Or at least some kind of deep friendship that lasted more then 1 or 2 days. That way I'd believe she doing what she's doing all for this guy. But what we got...<_< Come on Liara, this guy doesn't even have a reason to still be alive.
jlb524 wrote...
JaylaClark wrote...
Okay... mostly staying full-on clear of the dink-les ... discussion, but I do have to say something very clearly about something on the side of it -- this notion that EA hates Liara and wants to avoid controversy?
*looks at her Sims 3 save with Jayla married to Kyra with their adopted teenaged daughter Crystal -- clearly not in Massachusetts or Canada, by the way, the weather's too good
Can you guess why I don't buy that concept?
We just like to worry and expect the worst. That way, you can't be dissapointed! I have low, low expectations for ME3 after ME2, that includes the Liara romance and the story in general.
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JaylaClark wrote...
jlb524 wrote...
JaylaClark wrote...
Okay... mostly staying full-on clear of the dink-les ... discussion, but I do have to say something very clearly about something on the side of it -- this notion that EA hates Liara and wants to avoid controversy?
*looks at her Sims 3 save with Jayla married to Kyra with their adopted teenaged daughter Crystal -- clearly not in Massachusetts or Canada, by the way, the weather's too good
Can you guess why I don't buy that concept?
We just like to worry and expect the worst. That way, you can't be dissapointed! I have low, low expectations for ME3 after ME2, that includes the Liara romance and the story in general.
Well, I understand, but still, I can all but assure you that neither EA nor BioWare has any logical reason to take Lia out of ME3. EA has no problem with gay romances, neither does BioWare, and there's what I feel to be copious evidence that they're probably corporately in favor -- wouldn't be surprised if EA donated against Prop 8 or Prop 2, as a matter of fact, but that's another story.
Oh, and the Fox News crap with Cooper Lawrence describing ... what I think actually is a flash game I've played in the dark recesses of newgrounds, but has nothing to do whatsoever with Mass Effect what ever it was? That really didn't seem to have anything to do with Liara anyway. And final proof is this -- we all agree Liara was screwed over, but if we're rational, we all agree Ash and Kaidan were too. (Degrees of screwing are irrelevant to this discussion, just the fact of it.) And Ash and Kai are hetero-only options. So whatever's going on, it's not anti-gay politics at large.
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 28 avril 2010 - 12:38 .
LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
I think we're all just waiting for news of the Liara DLC or any involvement in a ME2 expansion. Without this, we've got to wait possibly a year and a half for any new Liara content, and I think some people aregetting a little down in the dumps. I'm confident to the point of certainty that we're going to see this Liara DLC, but we just need confirmation or an announcement of some kind.
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 28 avril 2010 - 12:52 .
LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
I think we're all just waiting for news of the Liara DLC or any involvement in a ME2 expansion. Without this, we've got to wait possibly a year and a half for any new Liara content, and I think some people aregetting a little down in the dumps. I'm confident to the point of certainty that we're going to see this Liara DLC, but we just need confirmation or an announcement of some kind.
Erinlana wrote...
LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
I think we're all just waiting for news of the Liara DLC or any involvement in a ME2 expansion. Without this, we've got to wait possibly a year and a half for any new Liara content, and I think some people aregetting a little down in the dumps. I'm confident to the point of certainty that we're going to see this Liara DLC, but we just need confirmation or an announcement of some kind.
I think They will bring out more DLC , weither it has Liara inculded it seems possiable ...
But to speculate i don't think the next installment of mass effect won't be comming out till 2011/2012 !
So far there has been 2 major dlc so here's hoping for some more Liara inculded !
Funny how people always see their point of view superior to others. What you call ignorant other people see as moral. Don't call people ignorant because their views don't match your ideals.screwoffreg wrote...
Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
When you have, to (out of universe) ignorant human eyes, an entire race of women with lesbian leanings, I think youd look ridiculous trying to remove it from the game.
Kelly is same sex content. Its there in ME2, its just dramatically downscaled. Samara turns down male and female advances alike (while at the same time sort of admitting she could easily feel the same way, but is actually stopping herself from doing so). Thats also same sex content.
Maybe its like everything else: They have got it ready for ME3, so rather than introduce something as continuation, simply bury what youve got so its safe for ME3, and offer a shallow replacement for those who cant wait (hehe).
You'd have to think by ME times people would have moved on from being ignorant about sexuality. Then again, considering they will probably be able to produce viable human babies with samples from people of the same sex...humanity might be a very different species...
Modifié par jamskinner, 28 avril 2010 - 02:40 .
Not sure what rock you crawled out from under, but I don't see him saying anyone was ignorant, it was a general statement about society in the 22nd century, when Mass Effect is supposed to be happening. This isn't the forum for bashing peoples views, take your trolling elsewhere please.jamskinner wrote...
Funny how people always see their point of view superior to others. What you call ignorant other people see as moral. Don't call people ignorant because their views don't match your ideals.screwoffreg wrote...
Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
When you have, to (out of universe) ignorant human eyes, an entire race of women with lesbian leanings, I think youd look ridiculous trying to remove it from the game.
Kelly is same sex content. Its there in ME2, its just dramatically downscaled. Samara turns down male and female advances alike (while at the same time sort of admitting she could easily feel the same way, but is actually stopping herself from doing so). Thats also same sex content.
Maybe its like everything else: They have got it ready for ME3, so rather than introduce something as continuation, simply bury what youve got so its safe for ME3, and offer a shallow replacement for those who cant wait (hehe).
You'd have to think by ME times people would have moved on from being ignorant about sexuality. Then again, considering they will probably be able to produce viable human babies with samples from people of the same sex...humanity might be a very different species...
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Sunnie22 wrote...
Not sure what rock you crawled out from under, but I don't see him saying anyone was ignorant, it was a general statement about society in the 22nd century, when Mass Effect is supposed to be happening. This isn't the forum for bashing peoples views, take your trolling elsewhere please.jamskinner wrote...
Funny how people always see their point of view superior to others. What you call ignorant other people see as moral. Don't call people ignorant because their views don't match your ideals.screwoffreg wrote...
Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
When you have, to (out of universe) ignorant human eyes, an entire race of women with lesbian leanings, I think youd look ridiculous trying to remove it from the game.
Kelly is same sex content. Its there in ME2, its just dramatically downscaled. Samara turns down male and female advances alike (while at the same time sort of admitting she could easily feel the same way, but is actually stopping herself from doing so). Thats also same sex content.
Maybe its like everything else: They have got it ready for ME3, so rather than introduce something as continuation, simply bury what youve got so its safe for ME3, and offer a shallow replacement for those who cant wait (hehe).
You'd have to think by ME times people would have moved on from being ignorant about sexuality. Then again, considering they will probably be able to produce viable human babies with samples from people of the same sex...humanity might be a very different species...
Modifié par jamskinner, 28 avril 2010 - 03:58 .
jamskinner wrote...
Been here since BG2. As far as bashing people view read my post. That is exactly what I said. Don't call people ignorant. It isn't nice. Here is the quote even though it is above.
quote: You'd have to think by ME times people would have moved on from being
ignorant about sexuality. endquote: As in anyone who does not agree with same sex relationships is ignorant and he figured by the 22nd century these ignorant people would not exist. They would have been enlightened.
As you know this post has had plenty on the subject. I have said nothing because it wasn't negative. People just saying how they believe. I only responded when people with my point of view were called ignorant.
P.S. You might also want to look at some of the contributions I have made to this thread including info on dlc.
Well, only in ME2, she was Monogendered in ME /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/28016.gifscrewoffreg wrote...
Homosexuality doesn't exist in ME anyway. Liara is "asexual"
Sunnie22 wrote...
Hi Goodwood! Hope the day has been good for you!
Modifié par Goodwood, 28 avril 2010 - 04:40 .
jlb524 wrote...
JaylaClark wrote...
Okay... mostly staying full-on clear of the dink-les ... discussion, but I do have to say something very clearly about something on the side of it -- this notion that EA hates Liara and wants to avoid controversy?
*looks at her Sims 3 save with Jayla married to Kyra with their adopted teenaged daughter Crystal -- clearly not in Massachusetts or Canada, by the way, the weather's too good
Can you guess why I don't buy that concept?
We just like to worry and expect the worst. That way, you can't be dissapointed! I have low, low expectations for ME3 after ME2, that includes the Liara romance and the story in general.
Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 28 avril 2010 - 04:54 .
Liara T'Soni wrote:
Shepard,
Thank you for your assistance on Illium. It's been a while since
we caught Nyxeris, and things are starting to calm down; I got
the last of the surveilance devices out of my office only last night.
I truly cannot tell you how much of a relief it was to see you again;
it saddens me that it couldn't be under better circumstances, but
we both know that some things are beyond all our control. The joy
at seeing you again, alive and whole, was almost overwhelming.
Now that I'm (relatively) secure here, hopefully I can explain myself
to you properly.
A month after the destruction of the Normandy, I received word that
someone had found your body, and was intending to sell it to the
Collectors. The contact I mentioned during our visits was they key;
he worked as a double-agent for the Shadow Broker and Cerberus.
A drell named Feron, he helped me to locate your body and wrest it
from the Shadow Broker just as this...thing...showed up to collect it.
In the fight that ensued, Feron and I became separated; while I tried
to get away with your body, he held the Broker's enforcers off long
enough for me to make a break for our ship. I still don't know what
they did with him...part of me hopes he is alive somewhere, but that
hope is dimming. Regardless, I know that the Shadow Broker does
business with the Collectors. Perhaps when your mission is done,
we can work together again to bring him down.
As I said, it was good to see you again, and I am glad at least that
Tali and Garrus are still with you. I would tell you to be cautious about
Miranda, but you've probably figured out already whether or not she is
to be trusted. I hope she is -- she played a large part in bringing you
back to me. That sounds so selfish to hear it aloud. Maybe someday
soon we will be able to embrace one another again, and all will be
made clear. Untill then, may the Goddess look kindly upon your journey.
Liara T'Soni
P.S.: I"ve included a letter I wrote to you shortly after I delivered you
to Cerberus. Hopefully it will help to explain things a bit more.
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