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The pic disappeared!!

EDIT - Hooray it's back!!

Also, I saw footage of Liara shooting Saren once. In my playthroughs Garrus always gives the renegade advice on that part.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

You know what? I've never seen Liara advocate sacrificing the Council in that scene, as I've never taken Kaidan along for the end of the game. It just sounds plain weird to me hearing Liara give the Renegade advice, plus seeing Liara shoot Saren in the head!


I took Kaidan once without realising, and vowed never to take him again. It was the most weird, jarring and OOC experience Ive seen in ME1. It was one of the games major letdowns that the roles the characters occupied were just their personality flavoring a paragon or renegade view rather than their own.

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pic time: and did someone mentioned just shoting LiLi:)

here goes:

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what? where have you found that????? any link u got?


The ME1 squadmates operate on a kind of "tier" system when it comes to giving Paragon and Renegade advice throughout the game. If a character is more "Paragon", they'll give the Paragon advice and if they're more "Renegade", they'll give the Renegade advice. I think the order, from Paragon to Renegade goes like this:

Kaidan
Liara
Tali
Garrus
Wrex
Ashley

Therefore, if you have Kaidan and Liara in your party, Liara will give the Renegade advice. It's a very odd thing to see! Plus, Liara will also shoot Saren's corpse in the head at the end, too, and Kaidan will be the one to radio back to Shepard.

Renegade Liara just doesn't feel or seem right. :?

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...


Renegade Liara just doesn't feel or seem right. :?

that's why i NEVER take Kaidan  on except the Virmire killmission -it kills him-Sorry Kaidan-and for final mission i take LiLi and Wrex so i make sure it stays Liarighty:)[word transformation: Liara+right:)

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Regardless, that's a nice little detail. Beats having to click on points in the landscape to get a comment from your companions.

I might want see "renegade" Liara should I play ME 1 again, though sacrificing Ashley isn't very appealing. Come to think of it, it's not worth it.

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quick note to all: avoid survivors thread @ all costs-It's WorldWwar 2 sized- flame war down there-or join for bigger fun:P

Modifié par Marcin R, 28 avril 2010 - 07:41 .


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Two little previews from the script I've crafted for that reunion comic thingy...

Liara: Nyxeris, cancel my apointments - all of them.
Nyxeris: Ma'am, I-
Liara: I don't care! Just do it.

Jack: Kinda cute...
Miranda: *chuckles* Yeah, they are
Jack: *smirks* Who says I'm talking about them?

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bjdbwea wrote...

Regardless, that's a nice little detail. Beats having to click on points in the landscape to get a comment from your companions.
I might want see "renegade" Liara should I play ME 1 again, though sacrificing Ashley isn't very appealing. Come to think of it, it's not worth it.


There are some instances where "Renegade" Liara is averted, though. She always counsels forgiveness of the Rachni Queen and urges Shepard to free her, plus she'll always express reluctance to kill all of the Zhu's Hope colonists, should Shepard make that decision. I'm not sure if Liara is critical of Vigil on Ilos either when it reveals that it began switching off the stasis pods of non-essential personnel.

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Two little previews from the script I've crafted for that reunion comic thingy...

Liara: Nyxeris, cancel my apointments - all of them.
Nyxeris: Ma'am, I-
Liara: I don't care! Just do it.

Jack: Kinda cute...
Miranda: *chuckles* Yeah, they are
Jack: *smirks* Who says I'm talking about them?


Looks like it's coming along great. It's like you're elaborating on Liara wanting to put her business on hold to speak with Shepard, as is shown in ME2. Can't wait to see and read the finished version!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Looks like it's coming along great. It's like you're elaborating on Liara wanting to put her business on hold to speak with Shepard, as is shown in ME2. Can't wait to see and read the finished version!


Out of interest, would you guys prefer the finished script posted before I do the artwork, or wait until there's images to acompany it?

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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Two little previews from the script I've crafted for that reunion comic thingy...

Liara: Nyxeris, cancel my apointments - all of them.
Nyxeris: Ma'am, I-
Liara: I don't care! Just do it.

Jack: Kinda cute...
Miranda: *chuckles* Yeah, they are
Jack: *smirks* Who says I'm talking about them?

seems something good and big is coming up-can't wait to see more:happy:

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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Two little previews from the script I've crafted for that reunion comic thingy...

Liara: Nyxeris, cancel my apointments - all of them.
Nyxeris: Ma'am, I-
Liara: I don't care! Just do it.

Jack: Kinda cute...
Miranda: *chuckles* Yeah, they are
Jack: *smirks* Who says I'm talking about them?


Looking forward to it :)

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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...


Out of interest, would you guys prefer the finished script posted before I do the artwork, or wait until there's images to acompany it?


I'd say wait until there are images to accompany it. That way, the text dialogue and the artwork will really compliment each other well, and will help to bring the script to life the first time it's read by the reader.

Just my opinion, though. Feel free to go about it as you wish, MDK. :)

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Marcin R wrote...

what? where have you found that????? any link u got?


The ME1 squadmates operate on a kind of "tier" system when it comes to giving Paragon and Renegade advice throughout the game. If a character is more "Paragon", they'll give the Paragon advice and if they're more "Renegade", they'll give the Renegade advice. I think the order, from Paragon to Renegade goes like this:

Kaidan
Liara
Tali
Garrus
Wrex
Ashley

Therefore, if you have Kaidan and Liara in your party, Liara will give the Renegade advice. It's a very odd thing to see! Plus, Liara will also shoot Saren's corpse in the head at the end, too, and Kaidan will be the one to radio back to Shepard.

Renegade Liara just doesn't feel or seem right. :?


If you take Kaidan and Liara on Peak 15,it would be Kaidan who suggest to kill the rachni queen.

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quick note i suppose i finally found piece as i gave final *i think* revenge on Survivors thread:) along with written in-post LOCKDOWN REQUEST:)
edit time to celebrate:
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tonnactus wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Marcin R wrote...

what? where have you found that????? any link u got?


The ME1 squadmates operate on a kind of "tier" system when it comes to giving Paragon and Renegade advice throughout the game. If a character is more "Paragon", they'll give the Paragon advice and if they're more "Renegade", they'll give the Renegade advice. I think the order, from Paragon to Renegade goes like this:

Kaidan
Liara
Tali
Garrus
Wrex
Ashley

Therefore, if you have Kaidan and Liara in your party, Liara will give the Renegade advice. It's a very odd thing to see! Plus, Liara will also shoot Saren's corpse in the head at the end, too, and Kaidan will be the one to radio back to Shepard.

Renegade Liara just doesn't feel or seem right. :?


If you take Kaidan and Liara on Peak 15,it would be Kaidan who suggest to kill the rachni queen.


Thats because Rachni queen is a special case. Liara will always argue for releasing the queen and wrex will always argue against. 

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If you take Kaidan and Liara on Peak 15,it would be Kaidan who suggest to kill the rachni queen.


Yeah, like I said above there are some instances where, regardless of whether Kaidan is your other squadmate, Liara will always give the Paragon advice, like with the Rachni Queen as you described. I think she also expresses disapproval if Shepard states that she intends to kill the colonists in Zhu's Hope on Feros.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I'd say wait until there are images to accompany it. That way, the text dialogue and the artwork will really compliment each other well, and will help to bring the script to life the first time it's read by the reader.

Just my opinion, though. Feel free to go about it as you wish, MDK. :)


Not sure if I'll get the whole thing done tonight - I'm going to make the line-art as detailed as I always do - that way I can use that to create the full-colour version later.

Though I may just do rough backgrounds for tonight's version, and then do some accurate ones at a later date.

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MDK, I love your art on Deviant. I can't wait to see your illustrated reunion scene.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yeah, like I said above there are some instances where, regardless of whether Kaidan is your other squadmate, Liara will always give the Paragon advice, like with the Rachni Queen as you described. I think she also expresses disapproval if Shepard states that she intends to kill the colonists in Zhu's Hope on Feros.


As I recall, with the Zhu's Hope colonists - if you choose to kill them, Liara says something to the effect of "It is regrettable there is no other way"

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Not sure if I'll get the whole thing done tonight - I'm going to make the line-art as detailed as I always do - that way I can use that to create the full-colour version later.

Though I may just do rough backgrounds for tonight's version, and then do some accurate ones at a later date.


Awesome, can't wait to see how you're going to do this. I think your take on the Liara reunion scene will be beautiful, and very moving and emotional. Y'know, like it should have actually been in-game. <_<

Anyway, I can't really remember if there is any variation to Liara's reactions and dialogue with Vigil on Ilos, too. Is she critical of Vigil when it explains how it deemed it necessary to start switching off certain stasis pods in order to conserve energy? Knowing Liara's compassionate and caring nature, I don't think she'd approve of Vigil doing so.

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Hmm....probably going to get swamped here - but I want to build up a list of future drawing/fic ideas.

So - anything you want to see from me - whether it's Liara on her own or with Freya - give me a prompt or idea, and I'll add it to my ever-growing list of things to do...

Currently I definately want to do a drawing with Freya and Liara's daughter, so that's already being planned - but I'm open to any new ideas. Hopefully my stuff is familiar enough for you guys to know the sort of things I'm good at doing ^_^

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I think I brought up this idea uesterday, MDK, but how about a beautiful, yet sad and poignant picture set 600+ years after the events of the ME trilogy. The picture would depict Matriarch Liara, along with her two asari daughters, mourning and honouring Freya's memory. The picture would be very beautiful, and it would show Liara and Freya's daughters comforting their mother, who obviously looks quite sad, and like she misses Freya dearly.



Regarding what Liara would be wearing, I'd assume it would be a dress of some sort, since asari Matriarchs seem to adopt dresses as their standard attire in order to appear very formal, stately and powerful. Liara would be wearing a dress that conveys those feelings. As for what Liara would be mourning over, perhaps it could be a simple memorial to Freya, or some kind of shrine? Anything to show that Liara is missing her dearly.



What do you think, MDK?

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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Hmm....probably going to get swamped here - but I want to build up a list of future drawing/fic ideas.

So - anything you want to see from me - whether it's Liara on her own or with Freya - give me a prompt or idea, and I'll add it to my ever-growing list of things to do...

Currently I definately want to do a drawing with Freya and Liara's daughter, so that's already being planned - but I'm open to any new ideas. Hopefully my stuff is familiar enough for you guys to know the sort of things I'm good at doing ^_^

so i've got 1 idea for start-it's single-Liara one:
how about Liara sitting in some wide-open garden [on some bench maybe] a stone statute illustrating Reapers defeat, and Liara taking some drawings of it? or something in that style?
do you like it?
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and using the opportunity i'd like to give this thread a title of NICEST AND MOST PROFESSIONAL THREAD ON SOCIAL.BIOWARE SERVER
it really widens horizons and shows difference between our thread and other mob-flame threads like infamous Survivors one when you look into one *edited cos forgotten to add it before*

Modifié par Marcin R, 28 avril 2010 - 09:08 .