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[JaylaClark]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Wow, slow night. We need to maintain the Liara love!

MDK, I have to say that comic is looking great. Can't wait to see the finished version, and how you're going to write the Liara reunion. I have a feeling it's going to be so sweet, and emotional!

Truth be told, slow, I can deal with, especially with so many good pics during the day today .

[Nozybidaj]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Definitely! When this thread does move fast, it can be hard to keep up.

Did you notice that MDK is taking requests, Jayla? I'd love to see any ideas you might have for a Liara pic. MDK would probably realise them perfectly.

I'd post something but I'm not sure MDK does that kind of art.

[JaylaClark]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

I'd post something but I'm not sure MDK does that kind of art.

What Shepard and Liara get up to in their own time is private.

Exactly ... I may have some 'clean' ideas tomorrow, though. 

[Goodwood]

I'd like to see a picture of Liara and Shepard, sniper rifles primed, and crouched behind cover side-by-side.

[Goodwood]

Sunnie22 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

How do you adjust the flags?

You have to use the Gibbed Save editor which you can download (just google it).

You can adjust flags from ME1 decisions (like the romance one) and you can use it to kill ME2 squad mates that may have survived the suicide mission.  It can also be used to give Shepard cool hairstyles but the best use for it is to give your Shepard unlimited resources so you never have to scan a damn planet ever again!!!!

I have a hotkey set in my coalesced that sets all my resources to 500k, no need to edit the save file =D

Oh and hi everyone! Busy day on the forum it seems!!

Oh, hey there Sunnie! How's it going?

[JaylaClark]

rynluna wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...
I'd post something but I'm not sure MDK does that kind of art.

On his journals, he actually has one called "Liara and Freya gettin' busy".  I don't know if he's still going to make it but I would love it if he did eventually.<3

Doubt he'd POST it here, but I'd love to see it.

[Sakhalin]

rynluna wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...
I'd post something but I'm not sure MDK does that kind of art.

On his journals, he actually has one called "Liara and Freya gettin' busy".  I don't know if he's still going to make it but I would love it if he did eventually.<3

Ooolala, I'm curious now.

[JaylaClark]

Goodwood wrote...

I'd like to see a picture of Liara and Shepard, sniper rifles primed, and crouched behind cover side-by-side.

Gonna second this, too.  Wasn't it your blurb that started a mini-debate about how Shepard views killing ... hmm, wait, it never quite started the debate.  More's the pity, it would've been a much nicer topic for last night's discussion than the one I got worried about this morning, and posted as such ten minutes after it had actually ended, due to cellphone lag *sighs*

[Sunnie]

Goodwood wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

How do you adjust the flags?

You have to use the Gibbed Save editor which you can download (just google it).

You can adjust flags from ME1 decisions (like the romance one) and you can use it to kill ME2 squad mates that may have survived the suicide mission.  It can also be used to give Shepard cool hairstyles but the best use for it is to give your Shepard unlimited resources so you never have to scan a damn planet ever again!!!!

I have a hotkey set in my coalesced that sets all my resources to 500k, no need to edit the save file =D

Oh and hi everyone! Busy day on the forum it seems!!

Oh, hey there Sunnie! How's it going?

sheesh, I am slow tonight... Hi Goodwood! Been a long day for sure... will be glad when this week is done.

Modifié par Sunnie22, 29 avril 2010 - 05:34 .

[Goodwood]

I'm sorry to hear that, Sunnie. What's been up?

Jayla, yes that was my blurb....you post from a cell phone? In any case, yeah that would have been a more preferrable topic to that other one. You still want to talk about it?

Modifié par Goodwood, 29 avril 2010 - 05:41 .

[JaylaClark]

Goodwood wrote...

I'm sorry to hear that, Sunnie. What's been up?

Jayla, yes that was my blurb....you post from a cell phone?

At work I do.  You can usually tell from the lack of quotes -- I'll '@person' someone instead, as opposed to fairly rarely will I do it when at home.  The problem being the chat window doesn't frakking expand or scroll on my phone, so I have a limited area to work with.

EDIT -- and I might want to talk a bit, though it's getting kinda late... and we're close to agreeing if I recall correctly.

Modifié par JaylaClark, 29 avril 2010 - 05:43 .

[Goodwood]

JaylaClark wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

I'm sorry to hear that, Sunnie. What's been up?

Jayla, yes that was my blurb....you post from a cell phone?

At work I do.  You can usually tell from the lack of quotes -- I'll '@person' someone instead, as opposed to fairly rarely will I do it when at home.  The problem being the chat window doesn't frakking expand or scroll on my phone, so I have a limited area to work with.

EDIT -- and I might want to talk a bit, though it's getting kinda late... and we're close to agreeing if I recall correctly.

Heh, yeah that is true, we were about a hair's breadth away from consensus.

Now that I think about it, yes that probably wasn't the best way to introduce Liara to the concept of "one shot one kill" from a kilometer away. But then, Kiria Shepard, my main character, is a dedicated scout/sniper who very nearly became addicted to the "pink mist" (Marine slang for what happens when a supersonic sniper rifle round impacts an enemy's skull) during N7 training.

Modifié par Goodwood, 29 avril 2010 - 05:52 .

[JaylaClark]

Goodwood wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

I'm sorry to hear that, Sunnie. What's been up?

Jayla, yes that was my blurb....you post from a cell phone?

At work I do.  You can usually tell from the lack of quotes -- I'll '@person' someone instead, as opposed to fairly rarely will I do it when at home.  The problem being the chat window doesn't frakking expand or scroll on my phone, so I have a limited area to work with.

EDIT -- and I might want to talk a bit, though it's getting kinda late... and we're close to agreeing if I recall correctly.

Heh, yeah that is true, we were about a hair's breadth away from consensus.

Now that I think about it, yes that probably wasn't the best way to introduce Liara to the concept of "one shot one kill" from a kilometer away...

Probably not, but I do remember a line in Rogue Warrior, the non-fiction one, where Marcinko says, roughly, "My generation was brought up on people like the Lone Ranger and Gene Autry, where when the bad guy runs out of bullets, the good guy chivalrously tosses his own gun aside to fight him hand to hand.  But war isn't like that.  In war, you kill the other man by any means possible before he kills you, because he will kill you if he gets the chance."

Hell, Terry Pratchett had Sgt. Jackrum say "The other side may be as scared as you, or as trained, or not trained as you, but there's nothing you can do about that but give them a quick chop where it don't hurt and pray that they go somewhere where there's no fighting."  This is true about soldiers, well enough.

This is why in the next election, my vote goes to the first person who answers the question "What are the armed services for?" with the answer "Killing people, and being well known to kill people, so that they don't have to do it for real so often."

[Goodwood]

I can certainly agree with that. I'm no soldier myself, but I've met and talked with enough of them, in addition to reading many nonfiction historical accounts/biographies/etc. to understand some of the more universal mentalities that come with the territory. Horrifying as it may sound, the effects that war can have on different people is something of a fascination for me. It can transform ordinary folks into paragons of virtue, or destroy the pacifist, leaving him little more than a psychopathic monster, who thrills on the idea of mowing down hordes of enemies.

It's difficult to describe, but part of me regrets not being able to serve in the military, while at the same time the more sane parts thank my lucky stars that I am "physically disqualified". I suppose that's why I've focused so much of my life on understanding what war is.

Modifié par Goodwood, 29 avril 2010 - 06:09 .

[Sunnie]

Goodwood wrote...

I'm sorry to hear that, Sunnie. What's been up?

Jayla, yes that was my blurb....you post from a cell phone? In any case, yeah that would have been a more preferrable topic to that other one. You still want to talk about it?

Work is really stressful this week so I am spending a lot of time outside of work burying myself in retexturing Sheps cabin. Have all teh normal furniture done, trying now to figure out what to do with the ugly desk and office chair. Got a couple shots I am about to upload.

[Goodwood]

Looking forward to seeing what you've got planned. For the desk, how about a nice mahogany or maple texture? The chair you could probably make into dark brown leather...

[screwoffreg]

Goodwood wrote...

I can certainly agree with that. I'm no soldier myself, but I've met and talked with enough of them, in addition to reading many nonfiction historical accounts/biographies/etc. to understand some of the more universal mentalities that come with the territory. Horrifying as it may sound, the effects that war can have on different people is something of a fascination for me. It can transform ordinary folks into paragons of virtue, or destroy the pacifist, leaving him little more than a psychopathic monster, who thrills on the idea of mowing down hordes of enemies.

It's difficult to describe, but part of me regrets not being able to serve in the military, while at the same time the more sane parts thank my lucky stars that I am "physically disqualified". I suppose that's why I've focused so much of my life on understanding what war is.

I think far too often people equate soldiering with a very noble, very fantastic image that is entirely untrue.  In reality, it is really just another job, albeit a bloody and dangerous one.  Of the over one hundred conflicts the US has been involved in, a majority have had nothing to do with ideas of liberty and valor and everything to do with the interests of business and property.  That is true of any nation or government, unfortunately.

As to what people become from their experiences in war, I think the best idea is to wage it so rarely so we never have to find out.  If one were to look at the homeless population in the US, many who are mentally ill, a disturbing amount of them are veterans of our wars.  I can only imagine in the next decade how many of those wandering, sad men will be former Iraq and Afghanistan combatants.  Its easy to glorify them in uniform, much easier to forget when the work is done.

[Goodwood]

screwoffreg wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

I can certainly agree with that. I'm no soldier myself, but I've met and talked with enough of them, in addition to reading many nonfiction historical accounts/biographies/etc. to understand some of the more universal mentalities that come with the territory. Horrifying as it may sound, the effects that war can have on different people is something of a fascination for me. It can transform ordinary folks into paragons of virtue, or destroy the pacifist, leaving him little more than a psychopathic monster, who thrills on the idea of mowing down hordes of enemies.

It's difficult to describe, but part of me regrets not being able to serve in the military, while at the same time the more sane parts thank my lucky stars that I am "physically disqualified". I suppose that's why I've focused so much of my life on understanding what war is.

I think far too often people equate soldiering with a very noble, very fantastic image that is entirely untrue.  In reality, it is really just another job, albeit a bloody and dangerous one.  Of the over one hundred conflicts the US has been involved in, a majority have had nothing to do with ideas of liberty and valor and everything to do with the interests of business and property.  That is true of any nation or government, unfortunately.

As to what people become from their experiences in war, I think the best idea is to wage it so rarely so we never have to find out.  If one were to look at the homeless population in the US, many who are mentally ill, a disturbing amount of them are veterans of our wars.  I can only imagine in the next decade how many of those wandering, sad men will be former Iraq and Afghanistan combatants.  Its easy to glorify them in uniform, much easier to forget when the work is done.

Don't get me wrong, I don't put soldiers on pedestals, nor do I hold any delusions that most of the wars that the U.S. has fought were for anything more than "moar land!" or "moar influence!" When you get right down to it, there are probably only two or three wars that America has ever fought which were in any way truly about liberty or ideals (depending on your point of view). IMHO, those three would probably be the Revolution, the American Civil War, and World War II -- even then, things aren't nearly as cut-and-dried as most histories would like us to think.

A quote from Robert E. Lee comes to mind here: "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."

[Sunnie]

Goodwood wrote...

Looking forward to seeing what you've got planned. For the desk, how about a nice mahogany or maple texture? The chair you could probably make into dark brown leather...

Was thinking about a wood, probably somehting to compliment the rest.. you'll see what I mean.

[Goodwood]

Sunnie22 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Looking forward to seeing what you've got planned. For the desk, how about a nice mahogany or maple texture? The chair you could probably make into dark brown leather...

Was thinking about a wood, probably somehting to compliment the rest.. you'll see what I mean.

Post #22,222!

What kind of good...wood...were you thinking of? (sorry, couldn't help myself! )

[JaylaClark]

screwoffreg wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

I can certainly agree with that. I'm no soldier myself, but I've met and talked with enough of them, in addition to reading many nonfiction historical accounts/biographies/etc. to understand some of the more universal mentalities that come with the territory. Horrifying as it may sound, the effects that war can have on different people is something of a fascination for me. It can transform ordinary folks into paragons of virtue, or destroy the pacifist, leaving him little more than a psychopathic monster, who thrills on the idea of mowing down hordes of enemies.

It's difficult to describe, but part of me regrets not being able to serve in the military, while at the same time the more sane parts thank my lucky stars that I am "physically disqualified". I suppose that's why I've focused so much of my life on understanding what war is.

I think far too often people equate soldiering with a very noble, very fantastic image that is entirely untrue.  In reality, it is really just another job, albeit a bloody and dangerous one.  Of the over one hundred conflicts the US has been involved in, a majority have had nothing to do with ideas of liberty and valor and everything to do with the interests of business and property.  That is true of any nation or government, unfortunately.

As to what people become from their experiences in war, I think the best idea is to wage it so rarely so we never have to find out.  If one were to look at the homeless population in the US, many who are mentally ill, a disturbing amount of them are veterans of our wars.  I can only imagine in the next decade how many of those wandering, sad men will be former Iraq and Afghanistan combatants.  Its easy to glorify them in uniform, much easier to forget when the work is done.

Sad, yet true.  And even what I would consider the more morally clear conflicts, with terrorists (and admittedly, those are only guaranteed to be morally clear to a typical soldier, who is trained to believe that while accidental killing of innocents is severely regrettable, intentional killing of innocents is unconscionable, and directly targeting said innocents is d@mnable) aren't fought in what we think of in honorable ways.  Typically the US sends in Delta Force or DEVGRP (formerly SEAL Team SIX) with the intent of preventing innocent casualties as much as possible ... by maximizing terrorist casualties.  (According to Commander Marcinko, "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" was the maxim of the late Col. Charlie Beckwith, creator of Delta Force.)  And in that task, the shooters on the team can't be looking for ways to save the bad guy's life, because less than a tenth of a second can be deadly to a hostage, a teammate, or one's self.

Actually, he put it well once in Designation Gold:  "A SEAL has to be able to, without hesitation, neutralize the threat, be it man, woman, or child.  Yes, child.  An eleven-year-old girl with an AK47 is as deadly as a 25-year-old man with an AK47."  A Special Forces shooter has to be able to do all that without a second's hesitation, and never question why they did it or if they needed to until the bullets stop flying.

This is probably why I prefer a Sole Survivor's introduction so much -- "Do you really want someone like that protecting the galaxy?" "Ambassador, that's the only kind of person who can protect the galaxy."

/end_Rant