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[jlb524]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Do you think Liara knows how to cook?

I was just remembering how the cook on the Normandy says that asari food is quite good.

I don't know...she's been on her own for a great part of her life so she probably has some cooking skills.    I'm not sure what she made though, probably Ramen noodle type grub.

[Nivenus]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

If they have Liara go nuts and attempt to attack a non-faithful Shepard or the new LI then I will FREAK! I want the cheaters to feel guilty, not some vague sense of smug justification for trashing her.

As horrible as this sounds, I want Liara to act like it completely breaks her. I want her to react with an absolutely pained facial expression, and with a quivering voice excuse herself before leaving. I want a non-faithful Shepard to absolutely leave her distraught.

Cheaters should feel guilty and regretful, not justified.

I left Ashley for Tali, but I actually agree. I don't want it to come down to "Shepard is awesome and whatever he did was right for whatever reason." The ME1 LIs shouldn't be brushed aside when the confrontation comes. I still say that players should be allowed to reject their old LIs, but it shouldn't result in character derailment for Kaidan/Liara/Ashley. Likewise in reverse.

[Debi-Tage]

The dlc announcement seems a little suggestive since, in the very next breath, it mentions Redemption...but who wants to get their hopes up anymore!

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

To be honest?

While i want the reunion to be happy, i still want Shepard to still be a little angry or upset over the fact that she basicly abadons Shepard in ME2, but i want it to end on a happy note.

Damn, and I was just leaving.

Lizard, although I share feelings of some sort of "abandonment", its too strong a term. Liara chooses to continue searching for the SB and Feron rather than help Shepard, at the time we believed, try and stop the reapers and save the galaxy.

Yes I hope she is apologetic for pursuing her vendetta above trying to help Shepard, but not by too much. Shepard was absent for a long period of time, and expecting her to up and join is no more or less selfish than Liara refusing Shepards request for help.

Abandonment might be a bit too strong. But still I want Shepard to express how he felt about the whole ordeal and same goes for Liara, but like i said before it should end on a happy note.

EDIT: I re-edited my last post because i found a better way to describe how the reunion should be, here it is again in case someone missed it.

I guess the best way to describe my idea is that it should play out like
a more happy and heartwarming version of the horizon reunion. Starts
out with Shepard being a little bitter over Liara, but they end up
embracing each other again.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 29 avril 2010 - 11:06 .

[OrbitalWings]

Something that may or may not interest you guys...

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5933288/1/

...be gentle, it's been a while since I've written something, and I'm very tired right now....

[screwoffreg]

Alright folks, another update on my story as well. Chapter 4 of the tale of Shepard dealing with an ME 2 world without Liara. The ever lovely asari will make a return very soon.

http://www.fanfictio...hattered_Dreams

This took me longer than I wanted to write, so its quality is dubious.

Modifié par screwoffreg, 29 avril 2010 - 11:14 .

[jlb524]

Yay!! More Liara fanfics to keep me occupied.

[Debi-Tage]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Thanks screw and MDK! Any new Liara fic is awesome!

Ditto, they are both GREAT! 

[bjdbwea]

BioWare should just copy some fan fiction and put it into ME 3. Saves them time for more important things, like designing more heavy weapons or something.

[bjdbwea]

But that wasn't hard to do. <_<

[OrbitalWings]

Working on a silly picture to celebrate the 900th page......my god my mind is in the gutter tonight....

[Goodwood]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

@Goodwood,

I like the sentiments in that letter, but I think Matriarch Aethyta's explanation for why she doesn't just tell Liara that she's her "mother" is a pretty significant shot to the lore (not that Bioware is averse to that). 

We have several examples of Asari fretting over their loved ones.  If the Asari value mating with other species because it gives them an insight in to other species, then they would definitely value good parenting due to the social norms an Asari dauther's "father" can pass on to her. 

Lastly, I fear that you may be handing ammuntion to opponents of Liara's character, and Asari in general, by practically promoting the rumor of Asari promiscuity.  You make it seem as if it's acceptable for the Asari to just reproduce and go, which conflicts with the point I made earlier about Asari valuing good parenting.  Yes, it's not unusual for Asari to raise their daughers alone, but it's also acceptable for humans, too, so it's not exactly unique, unless it's significant in another way.

Did you consider other alternatives for Matriarch Aethyta's reasoning, before settling on that one?

Absolutely. Having read back what Goodwood wrote in that letter from Matriarch Aethyta, it does make it seem pretty damning of the asari, and like you said contradicts lore. GW, perhaps you should have made it so that it was more of an indictment of Aethyta personally, rather than the asari species as a whole? The way Aethyta callously dismisses Liara in that letter does indeed contradict what we're told in-game, particularly how Liara says how Benezia was pained by her partner leabing her, and particularly how that asari on Illium grieves for her deceased human bondmate. The asari value family ties and being close together.

Also, we know first hand how much Liara values the asari union, and how much it means to her. Liara insists that it's the ultimate connection in body, mind and spirit between two lovers, and that she has to be completely sure in her and Shepard's love and trust for each other before even considering melding. To Liara, the asari union is very important, the ultimate display of love and trust between an asari and her partner. Liara only melds with Shepard on her terms, after all, and refuses Shepard if you pick the Renegade dialogue option and insist that you're ready. Liara doesn't take it lightly.

Um...wow...

First of all, let me reiterate one thing: nearly all of my writings are "stream of consciousness" and typically don't have much "planning" to them. I get an idea for something to write, and then just fall into it, re-reading it a couple of times while in the character's head and fixing bits here and there before posting.

That said...you guys kinda make me sympathize with those who accuse some of us Liara fans of "reading too much into things". "Pretty damning of the asari"? C'mon guys, it's just one letter from one bitter-as-hell old fart who's in-game commentary already shows she has little love left for her own species at this point. She loves Liara dearly, but she knows that interposing herself into Liara's life would be needlessly complicated for the both of them. That's as much an expression of love as any other, knowing when to back off or keep one's distance for the sake of the person one loves. Also, keep in mind that Aethyta probably doesn't know the full situation between Shepard and Liara...

...aw, hell. I'm not going to try and defend my own fanfiction anymore. You either like it or you don't like it...

[OrbitalWings]

5 more to go if I count correctly, including this one...

Ummm.....how do I make this not pointless.....uhhh.......I LIEK LEEARA

Modifié par Metal-Dragon-Kiryu, 29 avril 2010 - 11:54 .

[morrie23]

Me too!

[Goodwood]

So...how about that sniper pic?

[OrbitalWings]

Actually - deadly serious question - Les suggested I write Liara in some sort of sexy lingerie for Freya......just what sort of stuff do people think our favourite asari would choose?

Modifié par Metal-Dragon-Kiryu, 29 avril 2010 - 11:58 .