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Support Liara T'Soni for ME3 - Squadmate and LI

Débuté par Nozybidaj , févr. 18 2010 08:42

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:17

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I really can't see how this is up for debate. Shepard's asks about the true nature of Liara's hunt for the Shadow Broker, Liara explains. It's right there in front of you. In short, it's "Because of what happened to Shepard". It's there, in black and white.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:17

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Yeled wrote...

My main play through Shep officially didn't see that dialogue at all.  I had a save that I went back to once I heard about that dialogue on these forums, but by that time I was 20 hours further into the game and had no interest in replaying a bunch of recruitment missions.  So if that dialogue is a trigger in ME3, I won't trigger it with my main Shep.

Wait you dont want to see it?:huh:


I saw it because I had a save to go back to.  But I didn't play that save forward.  After I watched it I went back to my game that was 20 hours further along.

I have only one completed ME2 playthrough. 

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:17

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Yeled wrote...

I think I was the one who had the problem with Liaramancer.  It really bothered me 'cause that seemed like Tali's term.  I don't think I made Liarasexual up, though.  Someone else came up with it.

I'll take credit for "Espressularity," though.  :P

I have the same problem with it, but like I said I thought we were called "Liara lovers":P

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:17

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jlb524 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

For all her suffering that's based around her strong emotional attachment to Shepard, be it love or not. "For what he did to my friend, and to you, and for whatever he's doing with the Collectors."


Maybe that SB is a bad guy after all.


Ya think? :P;)

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:17

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I'm going to add one rational thing before disengaging... I was speaking with my friend today and mentioned the uproar about the comic recently... mentioning the large number of people who thought they found proof that Liara's love for Feron is her sole motivation, and he jumped right in with "This is the 'no true Shepard' problem."  He's a total casual fan, truth be told, which makes me wonder if it's that obvious what the problem is.  (I took it to be 'maybe he is, for non-Liarasexuals, but I doubt it's getting forced'.)

What did he mean by that?:?


For the bolded text, I assume ...

All Shepard is is an Alliance Marine who enlisted at 18, had a spectacular mission of some sort, is a LtCdr, is the first human Spectre, and saved the Citadel from Saren.  That's ... about ... it, for canon.  Male/Female, Biotic/non, Nice/Jerkass... it's all up for grabs.  That comic had to somehow be made for everyone from our Shepards to the Shepards who keep threatening to toss her in the volcano, which is why it's so damn ambiguous.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:18

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jlb524 wrote...

Maybe that SB is a bad guy after all.


It would seem to suggest so, yes.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:18

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I really can't see how this is up for debate. Shepard's asks about the true nature of Liara's hunt for the Shadow Broker, Liara explains. It's right there in front of you. In short, it's "Because of what happened to Shepard". It's there, in black and white.

BW still could have done a better job though, or explained it a bit more.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:18

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I really can't see how this is up for debate. Shepard's asks about the true nature of Liara's hunt for the Shadow Broker, Liara explains. It's right there in front of you. In short, it's "Because of what happened to Shepard". It's there, in black and white.


Last word on this, because Les, you are without a doubt the most rabid fan in the Liara group.  After you ask her that, what does she talk about?  She talks about getting your body back and giving it to Cerbeus, not about hunting down the SB.  I'll grant you that hunting down the body and giving it to Cerberus was all about her feelings for Shep.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:18

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This whole Liara thing is just a huge mess at the moment.

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Yeled
Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:20

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Oops. I mean espressoularity. I think that sounds a little better.

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Nozybidaj
Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:20

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jlb524 wrote...

This whole Liara thing is just a huge mess at the moment.


I think we all agree on that.  Well, everyone except BW apparently.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:20

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<-- threatens to detonate a Tali-bomb in this thread if the grievers don't stop grieving...

Modifié par Goodwood, 02 mai 2010 - 05:21 .

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:21

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Liara /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/27989.gif:for better or for worse.
Shepard Image IPB: You did the right thing Liara.


Shepard Image IPB: My mission is important, I couldn't have done it without you.

Liara /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/28025.gif: Is there anythign else I can do for you, Shepard?

Shepard Image IPB: I'll see ya later, Liara.


Sunnie Image IPB: WTF is that? Really? Image IPB

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:21

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Goodwood wrote...

<-- threatens to detonate a Tali-bomb in this thread if the grieves don't stop grieving...


Liara pic to counter

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:21

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I really can't see how this is up for debate. Shepard's asks about the true nature of Liara's hunt for the Shadow Broker, Liara explains. It's right there in front of you. In short, it's "Because of what happened to Shepard". It's there, in black and white.


Well, it's the entire quote that's her motivations.  Feron, that SB was going to hurt Shepard, and for the Collectors, are all mentioned, the first not in name though.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:21

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Goodwood wrote...

<-- threatens to detonate a Tali-bomb in this thread if the grieves don't stop grieving...

If you do then I will never come back here.:mellow:

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:22

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Goodwood wrote...

<-- threatens to detonate a Tali-bomb in this thread if the grieves don't stop grieving...


Would you prefer we all sit around holding hands singing Kumbaya and praising Liara in ME2? :whistle::P

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:22

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jlb524 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

<-- threatens to detonate a Tali-bomb in this thread if the grieves don't stop grieving...


Liara pic to counter

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But...but why a sad pic?

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Nozybidaj wrote...


Last word on this, because Les, you are without a doubt the most rabid fan in the Liara group.  After you ask her that, what does she talk about?  She talks about getting your body back and giving it to Cerbeus, not about hunting down the SB.  I'll grant you that hunting down the body and giving it to Cerberus was all about her feelings for Shep.


I really, honest to God don't know what else to say. It's just...there. "That anger can't be just from what you told me", Liara explains. At this point, Liara isn't justifying why she hunted down the corpse. She's justifying her anger at the Shadow Broker, and why she's hunting him down, her motivations. She explains what happenes to Shepard, what she had to do with the corpse, her subsequent guilt and fear Shepard will hate her, and how that's been tormenting her. Bearing in mind that Liara is still justifying her anger at the Shadow Broker. It's just...there. I can't see how it's up for debate.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:22

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Nozybidaj wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

<-- threatens to detonate a Tali-bomb in this thread if the grieves don't stop grieving...


Would you prefer we all sit around holding hands singing Kumbaya and praising Liara in ME2? :whistle::P


Yes.

Yes I would.

#23097
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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:23

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and if you own the collectors edition, there is a comic book about Liara after shepard gets spaced

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:23

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I really, honest to God don't know what else to say. It's just...there. "That anger can't be just from what you told me", Liara explains. At this point, Liara isn't justifying why she hunted down the corpse. She's justifying her anger at the Shadow Broker, and why she's hunting him down, her motivations. She explains what happenes to Shepard, what she had to do with the corpse, her subsequent guilt and fear Shepard will hate her, and how that's been tormenting her. Bearing in mind that Liara is still justifying her anger at the Shadow Broker. It's just...there. I can't see how it's up for debate.

Its just a bit weak, BW could have done it so much better.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:24

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Goodwood wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

<-- threatens to detonate a Tali-bomb in this thread if the grieves don't stop grieving...


Liara pic to counter

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But...but why a sad pic?


Sad Liara is sad.

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Posté 02 mai 2010 - 05:24

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Goodwood wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

<-- threatens to detonate a Tali-bomb in this thread if the grieves don't stop grieving...


Liara pic to counter

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But...but why a sad pic?


Because....it's sad.
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