Trilogies in video games:
Marathon: Marathon 1, Marathon: Durandal, Marathon: Infinity
Each of those games had similar characters but ultimately were independent
Metroid Prime: MP 1, MP 2 Echoes, MP 3: Corruption
The same
This is not a new concept, the key here is three works connected in some way. Metroid Prime, Marathon and Mass Effect each continue the overarching narrative. You can do this without the characters I might add.
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 11:55
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Right, nice redefinition of the concept trilogy. Whatever dude.
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 11:55
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How is it a redefinition?
EDIT: OK, the better question is, how is it not a trilogy?
EDIT: OK, the better question is, how is it not a trilogy?
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:04
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I think Onyx had a point. *shrug*
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:24
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Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Fine
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i have a point too-*STAYS*IndigoWolfe wrote...
I think Onyx had a point. *shrug*
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:27
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OK
It seems like people are confused about what a trilogy is based off primarily of Lord of the Rings.
Lord of the Rings is not a trilogy it was written as one work, it was split off into three because it was just too damn long. A trilogy of itself by definition is:
trilogy (a set of three literary or dramatic works related in subject or theme)
Which is why in space operas or fantasy you can write a theme based trilogy that can take place over thousands of years with new characters in each iteration.
OK
It seems like people are confused about what a trilogy is based off primarily of Lord of the Rings.
Lord of the Rings is not a trilogy it was written as one work, it was split off into three because it was just too damn long. A trilogy of itself by definition is:
trilogy (a set of three literary or dramatic works related in subject or theme)
Which is why in space operas or fantasy you can write a theme based trilogy that can take place over thousands of years with new characters in each iteration.
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:28
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No, Onyx definitely had a point. Take the Star Wars movies for example: A New Hope centered around the Death Star and how to destroy it. And afterwards, in The Empire Strikes Back, the focus shifts completely, the characters are doing something completely different. No, they aren't still focused on destroying the Death Star, because that has already been done. But the overarching story of fighting the Empire remains and the characters are just doing different things and playing different roles. Does this make the movies not be a trilogy?
Likewise in Mass Effect, by the end of the first game, Sovereign is destroyed. Mass Effect 2 still fits into the overarching story of stopping the Reapers, but it's from a different approach and the characters are doing different things and playing different roles than in the first game. If Mass Effect 2 were truly seperate and stand alone from Mass Effect 1, then the Reaper story line would not have been touched on at all.
So I will have to agree with Onyx Jaguar in that ME2 is a sequel to ME1. That being said, I do not deny the fact that Bioware have said that it was their intent for the Mass Effect games to be able to work as stand alone games. And the key words there were "be able to". But I think that if I had played ME2 before I did ME1, I would have been able to grasp the situation of the story fairly quickly without being utterly lost by all the references the characters were making, but I would really want to play the first game. I feel there is more connection than it's usually given credit for.
Likewise in Mass Effect, by the end of the first game, Sovereign is destroyed. Mass Effect 2 still fits into the overarching story of stopping the Reapers, but it's from a different approach and the characters are doing different things and playing different roles than in the first game. If Mass Effect 2 were truly seperate and stand alone from Mass Effect 1, then the Reaper story line would not have been touched on at all.
So I will have to agree with Onyx Jaguar in that ME2 is a sequel to ME1. That being said, I do not deny the fact that Bioware have said that it was their intent for the Mass Effect games to be able to work as stand alone games. And the key words there were "be able to". But I think that if I had played ME2 before I did ME1, I would have been able to grasp the situation of the story fairly quickly without being utterly lost by all the references the characters were making, but I would really want to play the first game. I feel there is more connection than it's usually given credit for.
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:40
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Nope, no confusion. We apparently define trilogy differently, and tbh, it;'s too early to get into this. No reason to to ragequit, though. I'm still trying to wake up, lol.
Have another Liara pic!! That's for the ****ty weather, lol.
Have another Liara pic!! That's for the ****ty weather, lol.
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:43
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Lizardviking wrote...
I know most people around here hate the idea. But what if Bioware make Liara go all "Benezia" on you in ME3 and have her become a villain or someone Shepard must oppose, if they wanted they could also have the Virmire survivor becoming an enemy as well.
What would your reactions be?
I'd hate it if they did it with any of the three characters, to be honest with you. With what we've been shown so far, and what is driving Ashley, Kaidan and Liara respectively and what we know of their characterisations, motives and feelings for and relationships with Shepard, there's no way BW could do it without it feeling incredibly contrived, forced and completely out of left field. It would get a pretty big facepalm from me.
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:44
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But by definition a Trilogy is something that has been grounded in literature for centuries 
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:46
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Onyx Jaguar wrote...
But by definition a Trilogy is something that has been grounded in literature for centuries
I wouldn't mind discussing this with you later, after class, which I have in an hour, also not in the thread, you're a member of the Me2 character discussion group, right? I don't want to ****** anyone off, so maybe i'll discuss terminology with you there later today. That's all I'm going to say on the subject for now. Haven't finished my coffee yet.
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:52
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Liara is eagerly checking the extranet for any news of her DLC:
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:54
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I LOVE IT:wub:ratzerman wrote...
Dropping Liara mini-bomb.....
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:wub::wub:*to conserve space
let me add mine to the pack
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:55
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Liara mini-bomb FTW!!!
I can't wait for the day J- uses her super-bomb. The world (and our heads) will asplode!!
Off to class, bye!
I can't wait for the day J- uses her super-bomb. The world (and our heads) will asplode!!
Off to class, bye!
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 12:57
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Shavon wrote...
I can't wait for the day J- uses her super-bomb. The world (and our heads) will asplode!!
I don't think I'd be able to handle that much Liara!
No wait. Yes, yes I would. I want as much Liara as possible.
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 01:00
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i see no problem with that amount of Liara-with other things it would be but NOT with Liara:wub:LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Shavon wrote...
I can't wait for the day J- uses her super-bomb. The world (and our heads) will asplode!!
I don't think I'd be able to handle that much Liara!
No wait. Yes, yes I would. I want as much Liara as possible.
:wub:
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 01:05
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Shavon wrote...
I can't wait for the day J- uses her super-bomb. The world (and our heads) will asplode!!
I don't think I'd be able to handle that much Liara!
No wait. Yes, yes I would. I want as much Liara as possible.
You want aaaalll the time you can get... *snerk*
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 01:06
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So............... we're all prepared for the Liara DLC to completely suck, right?
We're not going to go into meltdown again, like when Redemption 4 hit, right?
We're not going to go into meltdown again, like when Redemption 4 hit, right?
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 01:09
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ratzerman wrote...
So............... we're all prepared for the Liara DLC to completely suck, right?
We're not going to go into meltdown again, like when Redemption 4 hit, right?
*raises hand* I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 01:14
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ratzerman wrote...
So............... we're all prepared for the Liara DLC to completely suck, right?
We're not going to go into meltdown again, like when Redemption 4 hit, right?
Yep. I'm expecting something decent, with no sign of romance related content. That's as pessimistic as I can get.
Morning Delta!!
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Posté 03 mai 2010 - 01:14
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I think we all need to do that . . . . . . . . . . . . . especially the second part.IndigoWolfe wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
So............... we're all prepared for the Liara DLC to completely suck, right?
We're not going to go into meltdown again, like when Redemption 4 hit, right?
*raises hand* I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.
Anyway . . . . . . new page, new pic:
