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[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Some say it happens 'too fast'.  What you say to that?

Like we discussed over PM before, J. It's restrictions to the amount of romance dialogue with Liara imposed by the fact that she can be picked up quite late. Consequently, they had to condense the development of Liara's attraction into a fewer amount of romance conversations. If you actually listen to how Liara's attraction develops, it's very believable and healthy. It goes from an interest in Shepard on a scientific level to the development of romantic attraction. It just feels quick because they were limited in the amount of conversations they could do.

I agree but some do not see the nuances and only go by the fact that she admits attraction to you in the second dialog.  I always felt it was mature of her to admit this attraction as soon as it manifested, instead of hiding it or playing coy.  She feels the attraction, thinks Shepard does feel the same too, and decides to get it out into the open and discuss it and possibly do something about it.    She is in no way ready to bed Shepard at this time, nor does she want to.

[bjdbwea]

Stanley Woo wrote...

As usual, if you have any questions or concerns regarding our community or this message, please let me know.

What if we have some questions about Liara's role in ME 2?

[ratzerman]

Stanley Woo wrote...

This is a reminder that, as mature individuals, we can disagree with each other without name-calling, insults, and other nastiness. I'm okay with giving the Liara thread its freedom, but if I start receiving complaints about people's bad behaviour in here, I'll have to start monitoring the thread more closely, and y'all probably don't want that.

Thanks for the warning, Woo.  And we all sincerely appreciate you allowing us the freedom to discuss our BBG.

[Marcin K]

so great pic that let me repost:

also

Stanley Woo wrote...
*snip*
I'm okay with giving the Liara thread its freedom, but if I start receiving complaints about people's bad behaviour in here, I'll have to start monitoring the thread more closely, and y'all probably don't want that.

INCOMING! we have to watch ourselves now!
edit: o ratz was faster than me....point for ya=]

Modifié par Marcin R, 04 mai 2010 - 04:41 .

[jlb524]

Marcin R wrote...

INCOMING! we have to watch ourselves now!

We were doing fine except for that one incident.

We will return to our former selves!

[bjdbwea]

jlb524 wrote...

Some say it happens 'too fast'. What you say to that?

I don't agree with that at all. First, the progress is tied to your progress in the main story. I like that concept a lot, it prevents you from being able to pretty much see the whole romance at once, like you can in DA or ME 2. That's what I call "too fast".

Second, the dialogue is perfectly fitting, and it's enough. Of course you always wish for more, but one has to be realistic. Of course, I for one also always imagine there's more going on between what we get to see. And finally, the way the ME 1 LIs are integrated into the story, goes a long way to make me feel their romances are much more alive, and make me feel they're "longer" than they actually are too.

And if anyone says Liara is too quick to fall in love with Shepard, well... it happens. I think there are several reasons for that, all pretty much visible in the game. So even if it is "fast", why should that have to be a bad thing?

Modifié par bjdbwea, 04 mai 2010 - 04:47 .

[OrbitalWings]

Right, now there's more people active on here, I'm gonna repost this list of four upcoming fics...

During ME2

• Shepard takes Liara out on a date - Liara gets slightly drunk - hilarity/cuteness ensues
• Shepard and Liara get stuck in a satan-spawn ME1 elevator. Lack of oxygen gets things a little steamy and there's some hotness/fluffyness

After ME2

• Shepard and Liara go on vacation to earth, and a ghost from Freya's past causes problems
• After a double-date with Miranda and Jack goes badly wrong, Liara and Jack have to work together to rescue their loved ones.

Now, this isn't an ego thing - I have a question - which do you guys want to see first?

Modifié par Metal-Dragon-Kiryu, 04 mai 2010 - 05:03 .

[Marcin K]

a little side note what i have noticed: When S. Woo says "end of line" it's pretty bad
when it's "Thank you"-then it's still cool
probably a bit offtopic thing-sorry
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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Right, now there's more people active on here, I'm gonna repost this list of upcoming fics...

During ME2

• Shepard takes Liara out on a date - Liara gets slightly drunk - hilarity/cuteness ensues
• Shepard and Liara get stuck in a satan-spawn ME1 elevator. Lack of oxygen gets things a little steamy and there's some hotness/fluffyness

After ME2

• Shepard and Liara go on vacation to earth, and a ghost from Freya's past causes problems
• After a double-date with Miranda and Jack goes badly wrong, Liara and Jack have to work together to rescue their loved ones.

Now, this isn't an ego thing - I have a question - which do you guys want to see first?

I VOTE FOR During ME2
hey, you know what? you could a pool about it!

Modifié par Marcin R, 04 mai 2010 - 04:53 .

[Larask]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Right, now there's more people active on here, I'm gonna repost this list of upcoming fics...

During ME2

• Shepard takes Liara out on a date - Liara gets slightly drunk - hilarity/cuteness ensues
• Shepard and Liara get stuck in a satan-spawn ME1 elevator. Lack of oxygen gets things a little steamy and there's some hotness/fluffyness

After ME2

• Shepard and Liara go on vacation to earth, and a ghost from Freya's past causes problems
• After a double-date with Miranda and Jack goes badly wrong, Liara and Jack have to work together to rescue their loved ones.

Now, this isn't an ego thing - I have a question - which do you guys want to see first?

hmm all looks cool, but the elevator one seems quite interesting! The double date one looks really cool too!

[jlb524]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Now, this isn't an ego thing - I have a question - which do you guys want to see first?

I'm partial to the Miranda/Jack double date as I love that pairing.  And I like the notion that Liara is the one to save Shepard.

[ratzerman]

jlb524 wrote...

Marcin R wrote...

INCOMING! we have to watch ourselves now!

We were doing fine except for that one incident.

We will return to our former selves!

Let's just hope Liara does the same.

[jlb524]

ratzerman wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Marcin R wrote...

INCOMING! we have to watch ourselves now!

We were doing fine except for that one incident.

We will return to our former selves!

Let's just hope Liara does the same.

I can't answer that one for you

[jlb524]

bjdbwea wrote...

So even if it is "fast", why should that have to be a bad thing?

I think people think it's 'bad' b/c they feel her admission of attraction is also a proposition to want to sex you up and become 'bond-mates' after only knowing each other for a few weeks of game-world time.   This clearly isn't the case as she even tells you that she would prefer that part of the relationship to be put on hold. 

I don't know...it seems all most every LI is 'attracted' to Shepard early on, but these feelings don't get admitted until later.  Liara just admits that they are there as soon as she realizes they are happening.  At first, she thought the feelings were out of 'scientific curiosity' (and they probably were) but she realizes they've changed and admits this to Shepard.

[Marcin K]

if any of you want to bump over....welll.... i freshly made it:

http://social.biowar...index/2507307/1

[Erinlana]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Right, now there's more people active on here, I'm gonna repost this list of four upcoming fics...

During ME2

• Shepard takes Liara out on a date - Liara gets slightly drunk - hilarity/cuteness ensues
• Shepard and Liara get stuck in a satan-spawn ME1 elevator. Lack of oxygen gets things a little steamy and there's some hotness/fluffyness

After ME2

• Shepard and Liara go on vacation to earth, and a ghost from Freya's past causes problems
• After a double-date with Miranda and Jack goes badly wrong, Liara and Jack have to work together to rescue their loved ones.

Now, this isn't an ego thing - I have a question - which do you guys want to see first?

I like During ME2  , but i'd love the idea of Liara & Shephard going to earth that would be so sweet

I can't wait for these fanfic's now

[bjdbwea]

jlb524 wrote...

I think people think it's 'bad' b/c they feel her admission of attraction is also a proposition to want to sex you up and become 'bond-mates' after only knowing each other for a few weeks of game-world time.  This clearly isn't the case as she even tells you that she would prefer that part of the relationship to be put on hold.

Right, it clearly isn't the case. So if anyone still says it, they either weren't paying attention at all, or are somehow trying to find negative things to say about Liara or the ME 1 LIs in general. As I said, you can see an entire ME 2 romance - except the love scene - in probably less than 1/2 hour, if you just repeatedly do one of the dumb and short side missions to unlock the next dialogue. That's a much bigger problem than a character who may be quick to admit their attraction to Shepard (who is genuinely awesome! after all).

[bjdbwea]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Shepard and Liara go on vacation to earth, and a ghost from Freya's past causes problems

I would like to see that, even though my canon Shepard isn't earth-born. It would certainly be nice to show our beautiful blue planet to our beautiful blue Liara.

[jlb524]

bjdbwea wrote...

Right, it clearly isn't the case. So if anyone still says it, they either weren't paying attention at all, or are somehow trying to find negative things to say about Liara or the ME 1 LIs in general. As I said, you can see an entire ME 2 romance - except the love scene - in probably less than 1/2 hour, if you just repeatedly do one of the dumb and short side missions to unlock the next dialogue. That's a much bigger problem than a character who may be quick to admit their attraction to Shepard (who is genuinely awesome! after all).

That is true...you can get through those ME2 romances quick...I did all three female romance options on one save in an afternoon.  It's nice for when you just want to check them out, as you don't have to play the whole game and can just do a few quickie N7 missions.

I like the 'almost kiss' locker scene too...it ties into the plot in another way that is really meaningful, since the LI is there for Shepard during her personal 'low' point .  ME2 missed this nice little touch.