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[sapphyreelf]

Yes, very nice first post, Mrs Templar. Thanks for keeping it updated.

[Mrs Templar]

 Updated once again.  Added signature banners and one more picture.  You can never have too many pictures of Kaidan 

[Eshaye]

Estelindis wrote...
 I'm actually more interested in seeing
their reactions to him. (Was already a bit underwhelmed by what Miranda
said to him on Horizon. Bah! I'm in the process of playing and
replaying that mission with various squad member combos just to see
their interjections. Miranda's was *not* complimentary towards the
Alliance.)

And it shouldn't be, at that point in time Miranda is all about Cerberus, they've been her whole life and to her they've 'saved' her, though she can't make the difference between being used and given direction... Which is kinda sad.
I always bring Miranda to Horizon just to hear that comment because to me that should really fuel Kaidan's anger and explains why he leaves pissed off a bit more.

[Mrs Templar]

After reading the first two comics, I expected a reaction of some kind from Liara when I brought Miranda with me. Of course, Liara doesn't respond to Tali or Garrus either. At least the scene on Horizon varies a little based on who is in your party.

[Estelindis]

Eshaye wrote...
And it shouldn't be, at that point in time Miranda is all about Cerberus, they've been her whole life and to her they've 'saved' her, though she can't make the difference between being used and given direction... Which is kinda sad.
I always bring Miranda to Horizon just to hear that comment because to me that should really fuel Kaidan's anger and explains why he leaves pissed off a bit more.

This is true.  At the time, it underlined how different Miranda is to my Shepard, who is a Spacer and thus has been involved in the Alliance her whole life (and would continue to be in ME2, if she had a choice!).  But, actually, now that you put it that way, I guess they're more alike than I thought.  They're just loyal to very different organisations.

I agree that Miranda's comment explains Kaidan's reaction a bit more.  ;-)  The thing is, I wanted to be able to have the exact same reaction to what she said!  At the same time, though, it's not exactly as if the Alliance had my Shep's back in ME2...

...but, again, that's partially as a result of TIM.  When it comes to Horizon, if you suggest calling in the Alliance for help, TIM refuses.  And it's solely because he doesn't want the Alliance getting their hands on Collector tech, IIRC.  He wants Cerberus to get the first shot at the attack site.  Absolutely nothing to do with, you know, the Alliance maybe being able to help the colonists.  Gah...  Kaidan is so right to distrust Cerberus!  I just wish my Shep could've called TIM on that when he said it...  At least you get the chance to call him on the fact that he set up Horizon to be Collector bait after the mission.

[Mrs Templar]

 Here is a poll asking who we would like to see return as a crew member in ME3.

http://social.biowar...908/polls/2407/

[Eshaye]

Estelindis wrote...
 Gah...  Kaidan is so right to distrust Cerberus!  I just wish my Shep could've called TIM on that when he said it...  At least you get the chance to call him on the fact that he set up Horizon to be Collector bait after the mission.

Hee hee,  I love that, everytime I can pick the option to tell off TIM or question him I do it!

As for Miranda I really like her character, she's more interesting to me then Ashley was, though Ash was a lot of fun to have around especially with her LT comments, Miranda I guess is more tragic in that she obeys whithout questionning too much until Shepard tells her she's worth more then that. I guess I'm a sucker for the dramatic and change in characters.I especially love how Miranda at the beginning wants to control Shepard with a brain chip because she doesn't know if Shep can be 'trusted', if you turn her she has cause to regret wanting to do that...
Anyway enough Miranda love, this is the Alenko thread!

[Jhourney]

Okay, while I was doing stuff around the house my mind wandered again. (makes the work seem a lot less tedious) And I wondered what would be a realistic, in character happy ending between Kaidan and Shepard.
What started these musings was the line Shepard gives Grunt about 'not wanting to do this forever' (something along those lines), which could be a hint from Bioware at the Indiana Jones thing they want for ME3.

So I thought about Shepard, who has been through and seen more of her fair share of action and politics. She served all beyond the call of duty and went through hell and back on more than one occassion. I can see her having enough of it all once the Reaper threat has been dealt with. Since Shepard's story is coming to an end, will it be this fairytale happy ending? No matter how much we want it, or how much Shepard could possibly want it, is it realistic to believe Bioware will handle it like that? Is their target audience one who would appreciate such a thing or will they go the Star Wars big party ceremony way and thus keep it more neutral?
Yes the forums are filled with romance topics, but we are but a small portion of their fanbase. And yet they seemed to have catered to their fans with Tali and Garrus and designed a totally new alien race for their female fans.

Then there's Kaidan and Shepard themselves. Will it be in character for them to marry at the end of ME3? For Kaidan to propose to Shepard? (or the other way around.) 
After all they do have some stuff to work out, she has been absent for two years and there's a lot of crap coming their way in the form of the Reapers.

So, don't think about what YOU as a player might want, but think about Bioware and the characters they created. Will there be a marriage between Shepard and Alenko in ME3? And if yes, how will it be handled in your mind?

Edit : Great OP Mrs Templar

Modifié par Jhosephine, 19 février 2010 - 03:17 .

[Eshaye]

Jhosephine wrote...

Then there's Kaidan and Shepard themselves. Will it be in character for them to marry at the end of ME3? For Kaidan to propose to Shepard? (or the other way around.) 
After all they do have some stuff to work out, she has been absent for two years and there's a lot of crap coming their way in the form of the Reapers.

So, don't think about what YOU as a player might want, but think about Bioware and the characters they created. Will there be a marriage between Shepard and Alenko in ME3? And if yes, how will it be handled in your mind?

I'm actually ok with whatever as long as there isn't anything unsatisfying like in KOTOR, or I guess KOTOR II where Revan disappears off the map and Carth is left behind miserable.... Kaidan already went through that once, don't end it like that! Or if you must have Kaidan leave with Shepard, don't think Shep would ever leave him behind again if he wants to come along though.

But for the marriage question, a proposal would be sweet but the game would have span months, maybe a year like in DA (if it's not a year it's a long time..) and give them time to resolve things and move ahead in their relationship. I don't think it will end with a big wedding and Joker in a tux.. lol But maybe we'll see it in the text credits.

Do I think it's actually going to happen, honestly I don't know. It could, and it could not.

edit: firefox hates me.

Modifié par Eshaye, 19 février 2010 - 03:29 .

[Estelindis]

I'd love a happy ending for Kaidan and Shepard. A wedding would be great, but it'd have to be one option among many other good ones (as I imagine some people don't view marriage as such a great thing as I do, and should be free to RP their Sheps that way).



Personally, the way the Alistair romance in Dragon Age worked out gave me a fresh appreciation of the attractiveness of happy endings. I really felt cheated at the end of DA:O. I don't want to feel that way at the end of ME3. Roll on Kaidan and Shepard happiness! (As a possibility, at least, if one makes the right choices.)

[MICHELLE7]

Jhosephine wrote...

But a simple "smelly husk creeps up to Shepard, she's occupied and doesn't notice, smelly husk blows a fuse alerting Shepard, she turns around but has no time to react, blue glow smashes smelly husk into nearby wall, Shepard looks to the left and there's Kaidan, glowing brightly all angry looking, hot and smouldering smexyness." mmmyumyum.

This reminds me of the Legion scene where he shoots the husks that are sneaking up behind Shepard.

[Jhourney]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

But a simple "smelly husk creeps up to Shepard, she's occupied and doesn't notice, smelly husk blows a fuse alerting Shepard, she turns around but has no time to react, blue glow smashes smelly husk into nearby wall, Shepard looks to the left and there's Kaidan, glowing brightly all angry looking, hot and smouldering smexyness." mmmyumyum.

This reminds me of the Legion scene where he shoots the husks that are sneaking up behind Shepard.

haha, that's right! Gosh I adore Legion. Okay so maybe no husk blasting for Kaidan then

[Milana_Saros]

Jhosephine wrote...

Will there be a marriage between Shepard and Alenko in ME3?

I personally don't think so. Neither of them really seems the type...they've been tossed around a lot, they've been torn apart when Shepard got spaced and I'm sure there's a lot of work especially on Kaidan's side if (read: WHEN!) they get back together in ME3. I would think that no matter how fed up Shepard would be after the Reaper ordeal is over, marriage still wouldn't come naturally for her...most likely she would want to be just simply free. With Kaidan that is. Free to do what she wants with her life, without any official ties.

Of course one might argue that being married doesn't mean being "tied town" but for some people, it's just not their style to get married....call them free spirits if you want. Shepard appears like this to me. At least marriage would take years to happen and it would most likely be a small sermon without tuxedos or wedding dresses or anything.

Having survived such hard stuff, I think the people involved would simply be happy about being able to be together. Official bonds would probably not mean that much to them.

Estelindis wrote...

Personally, the way the Alistair romance in
Dragon Age worked out gave me a fresh appreciation of the
attractiveness of happy endings. I really felt cheated at the end of
DA:O. I don't want to feel that way at the end of ME3. Roll on Kaidan
and Shepard happiness! (As a possibility, at least, if one makes the
right choices.)

I actually found the marriage/counsilor ending to be a bit forced...they've only known each other for like...a few weeks? On my current playthrough, I'm just going to remain in the Wardens with Alistair. It's the ending that pleases me the most. I'm all about freedom.

Modifié par Milana_Saros, 19 février 2010 - 03:53 .

[MICHELLE7]

sapphyreelf wrote...

SweetiePea wrote...

I agree with this also.  I thought that was such a rationalization, and it's nice that it helps Thane sleep at night.  My Shep wasn't buying it, and I don't think Kaidan would either.  Don't get me wrong, I liked Thane and thought he was a pretty well-done character, but this part just didn't cut it for me one bit.  I don't think Kaidan would like Thane all that much because I do think Kaidan would see this as Thane just rationalizing the bad things he's done.  After all, TIM has all kinds of rationalizations for what Cerberus has done, and Kaidan's ain't buying those either, is he?

I also don't think Kaidan would care to hear Thane call Shep "Siha". He says he's not a jealous man, but after two years... well... I can hope.

I think Kaidan does get jealous easily...no matter what he told Shep when they had that scene with Liara. It's like Shep said...he looked like he could have taken her head off. That's one of the interesting things about him in my opinion...I think that he digs deep to maintain that self control because I think that underneath it all he feels things a lot more intensely than a lot of other people. Probably a constant struggle with him. Or that's just the way I see him.

[syllogi]

As far as the marriage/proposal idea, I'd be okay with it if it were shown in a flash-forward into the future at the end...my Shepard has a lot more adventuring to do before she settles down...but I also know that there are other players who would HATE this, as it would limit their own view of what their characters would be doing after the game is over.



It's kind of like the Harry Potter epilogue in the last book...unnecessary, and many people hated it so much, they like to pretend it doesn't exist.

[MICHELLE7]

Mrs Templar wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Mrs Templar wrote...

cpolisch wrote...

Hey wow. It got shut down. I guess the mods finally decide it was safe to come out of hiding. Man, how sad. But still, the response time of creating a new thread is impressive. I'll miss the old one, but we can max this one out too... and then another one. It'll be FUN!

But yeah, our OP needs to be spruced up a little bit!

Just updated the OP.  If anyone has any suggestions just let me know 

Thanks to MIchelle7 for posting all of those links.

You're welcome.

It might be my browser( sometimes I have some strange things going on with it) but the last two links aren't quick linked.

I think someone also suggested posting a Kaidan pic in the first post. 

 

Just updated the OP.  Hope everyone likes, if not just let me know what suggestions you have 

;)Great job.

[MICHELLE7]

Mrs Templar wrote...

 Here is a poll asking who we would like to see return as a crew member in ME3.

http://social.biowar...908/polls/2407/

Liara is in the lead right now...followed by Kaidan and then Tali.

[syllogi]

A new thread...Kaidan and Jacob are not hated, they're just viewed as "boring"

Maybe by some, but I'm pretty sure there are people who hate Kaidan, as they stated so in the old version of this thread. 

[Eshaye]

Milana_Saros wrote...

I actually found the marriage/counsilor ending to be a bit forced...they've only known each other for like...a few weeks? On my current playthrough, I'm just going to remain in the Wardens with Alistair. It's the ending that pleases me the most. I'm all about freedom.

No, what seems like weeks to us is actually months within the game. I think it might be because you insta travel through the map, to them that's weeks of traveling to one place to another while it may just feel like days to us as players (or if you want to be technical minutes.)

[Lellandra]

November Cousland wrote...

Happy Thursday. Glad to see the new thread opened up.

Happy Friday too!!!

SHAZAAAM!

[MICHELLE7]

Jhosephine wrote...

Okay, while I was doing stuff around the house my mind wandered again. (makes the work seem a lot less tedious) And I wondered what would be a realistic, in character happy ending between Kaidan and Shepard.
What started these musings was the line Shepard gives Grunt about 'not wanting to do this forever' (something along those lines), which could be a hint from Bioware at the Indiana Jones thing they want for ME3.

So I thought about Shepard, who has been through and seen more of her fair share of action and politics. She served all beyond the call of duty and went through hell and back on more than one occassion. I can see her having enough of it all once the Reaper threat has been dealt with. Since Shepard's story is coming to an end, will it be this fairytale happy ending? No matter how much we want it, or how much Shepard could possibly want it, is it realistic to believe Bioware will handle it like that? Is their target audience one who would appreciate such a thing or will they go the Star Wars big party ceremony way and thus keep it more neutral?
Yes the forums are filled with romance topics, but we are but a small portion of their fanbase. And yet they seemed to have catered to their fans with Tali and Garrus and designed a totally new alien race for their female fans.

Then there's Kaidan and Shepard themselves. Will it be in character for them to marry at the end of ME3? For Kaidan to propose to Shepard? (or the other way around.) 
After all they do have some stuff to work out, she has been absent for two years and there's a lot of crap coming their way in the form of the Reapers.

So, don't think about what YOU as a player might want, but think about Bioware and the characters they created. Will there be a marriage between Shepard and Alenko in ME3? And if yes, how will it be handled in your mind?

Edit : Great OP Mrs Templar

Maybet Bioware will have a variety of endings depending on how you played the game and the choices you made. Like DAO maybe there will be one main ending (in ME3's case Shep will stop the Reapers) and a lot of little variables as to how the romance plays out depending on your choices. If they do that...I would definitely try to go the marriage route...I think Kaidan and Shep belong together.

My second guess would be a standard one way romance for the LI and because of the Indiana Jones comment I would be leaning towards the marriage angle once again. 

Sorry, maybe that's too much of me...but since they have taken the trouble to say the Horizon part was the second part of the romance arc...it just sounds like boy wins girl...boy loses girl...boy wins girl back. And yes I think that they took the time to create two mature characters in Shep and Kaidan and marriage would be the obvious result.

[MICHELLE7]

Eshaye wrote...

edit: firefox hates me.

:lol:It hated me too so I dumped it for Chrome.

[Darazelly]

Jhosephine wrote...

So, don't think about what YOU as a player might want, but think about Bioware and the characters they created. Will there be a marriage between Shepard and Alenko in ME3?

Can't say that I see it, if we're speaking the "big white" kind of wedding, or however it looks in the future, not matter how much I'd love to see Kaidan and Joker in tuxs. <3 But I could see some kind... promise, maybe something inspired by another alien culture? (Yes, I do realise that's essentially what a wedding is, but I'll just assume you understand what I mean.)

[MICHELLE7]

Milana_Saros wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Will there be a marriage between Shepard and Alenko in ME3?

I personally don't think so. Neither of them really seems the type...they've been tossed around a lot, they've been torn apart when Shepard got spaced and I'm sure there's a lot of work especially on Kaidan's side if (read: WHEN!) they get back together in ME3. I would think that no matter how fed up Shepard would be after the Reaper ordeal is over, marriage still wouldn't come naturally for her...most likely she would want to be just simply free. With Kaidan that is. Free to do what she wants with her life, without any official ties.

Of course one might argue that being married doesn't mean being "tied town" but for some people, it's just not their style to get married....call them free spirits if you want. Shepard appears like this to me. At least marriage would take years to happen and it would most likely be a small sermon without tuxedos or wedding dresses or anything.

Having survived such hard stuff, I think the people involved would simply be happy about being able to be together. Official bonds would probably not mean that much to them.

I think this is where the role playing comes into play. I don't see my Shepard as a free spirit by any means...more of a tough 'get the job done' kind of girl. 

Without the role play element...the backgrounds all seem to point to the fact that Shep would want to settle down.

Spacer background...a lot of times children of successful marriages(and I know we don't know much about her Dad but it sounded successful) often follow the parents footsteps by doing the same.

Colonist background...after losing her family I would think she would long to settle down and have a family of her own.

Earthborn...having no family...I would think she would want the one thing she's never had.

Just my viewpoint. 

[Milana_Saros]

Eshaye wrote...

Milana_Saros wrote...

I actually found the marriage/counsilor ending to be a bit forced...they've only known each other for like...a few weeks? On my current playthrough, I'm just going to remain in the Wardens with Alistair. It's the ending that pleases me the most. I'm all about freedom.

No, what seems like weeks to us is actually months within the game. I think it might be because you insta travel through the map, to them that's weeks of traveling to one place to another while it may just feel like days to us as players (or if you want to be technical minutes.)

Still, they don't seem to know each other THAT well. Even Alistair refers to the thing in a surprised manner, even if still being happy about it. But yeah, I guess it's up to us to fill in the holes between travel times.

As for Kaidan & Shepard "belonging together"...can't they belong together without marriage? Why does it have to end in marriage? More and more people stay together their whole lives without ever getting married. Then again my view on marriage is very biased given the fact that I stopped believing in it when my parents split up when I was 19  but still...at least give us the choice of not doing it and still remaining happily ever after.

It's just....in today's world you REALLY shouldn't force a player to marry the guy if she wants her character to be with him. That's almost like...forcing an atheist to convert into a believer because Ashely believes in God like if Ashely wouldn't accept you if you don't believe. It's not as serious but it's compareable...

Of course it's just a game but since it's roleplaying game...*shrug*