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Is there any way to break up with Kaidan at Horizont ( any dialog option),? Im asking, becouse Im still in " relationship" with him, but I think ( especially after mail from him) that we should go separate ways, In this same time, I don't want to have any new LI for my main Shep which I want to take to ME3 ( while to have new LI looks as a only way to finish my relationship with Kaidan).


Hmm...sorry, don't know...never tried :P 

wonder why??^_^
but i hardly doubt that there is an option to "break up" with him in horizon

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RGC_Ines wrote...

Is there any way to break up with Kaidan at Horizont ( any dialog option),? Im asking, becouse Im still in " relationship" with him, but I think ( especially after mail from him) that we should go separate ways, In this same time, I don't want to have any new LI for my main Shep which I want to take to ME3 ( while to have new LI looks as a only way to finish my relationship with Kaidan).


I'm pretty certain that there is no such option. I've never heard of it at least.


And on a side note... Yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me. :bandit:
(sketch, will color it properly once I'm finished with coloring the cover image for a classmate's RPG adventure)

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RGC_Ines wrote...

Is there any way to break up with Kaidan at Horizont ( any dialog option),? Im asking, becouse Im still in " relationship" with him, but I think ( especially after mail from him) that we should go separate ways, In this same time, I don't want to have any new LI for my main Shep which I want to take to ME3 ( while to have new LI looks as a only way to finish my relationship with Kaidan).


There is no way to break up with your ME1 LI. Outside of Horizon, there is no contact with Kaidan; there's absolutely no way to talk things out or break things off.

Crappy writing, if you ask me. It's forcing a conflict in ME3.

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And on a side note... Yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me. :bandit:
(sketch, will color it properly once I'm finished with coloring the cover image for a classmate's RPG adventure)


hahaha, that's great! Man that was mentioned a while ago wasn't it? Incredible lol
Here it comes again

"Pirate Kaidan reporting for duty, prepare to be boarded"

:lol::lol::lol:

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guys...what do you think Kaidan would do if you "cheat"?


I seriously don't want to find out ingame, which is why I've been faithful on all playthroughs, and deleted the character that had Kelly "dancing" for her.  I've thought about it, but I could never bring that character into ME3, because whether Kaidan would be angry or sad or just disappointed, I don't want to see it.  Posted Image

I think the writers will probably give us an ultimatum scene in ME3, like the one in ME1, where you have to choose between love interests.  Kaidan would understand that even though it's only been a few months for Shepard, things have changed, especially after Horizon, and it may have never worked out between them anyway.  Kaidan will probably be sad, and maybe angry, but I don't think he'd ever attack the new LI, or even raise his voice.  And people who think it's a great idea for their new love interest to fight with the old one...Posted Image  How obnoxiously out of character that would be for most of the ME2 love interests.  If those people really liked those characters, they would recognize that making them OOC just to stroke their egos is pretty lame.

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Jhosephine wrote...

Darazelly wrote..

And on a side note... Yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me. :bandit:
(sketch, will color it properly once I'm finished with coloring the cover image for a classmate's RPG adventure)


hahaha, that's great! Man that was mentioned a while ago wasn't it? Incredible lol
Here it comes again

"Pirate Kaidan reporting for duty, prepare to be boarded"

:lol::lol::lol:


Honestly, that sentence kept going through my head the whole time while I sat in school and doddled it on a piece of paper. xD

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fortunesque wrote...

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Is there any way to break up with Kaidan at Horizont ( any dialog option),? Im asking, becouse Im still in " relationship" with him, but I think ( especially after mail from him) that we should go separate ways, In this same time, I don't want to have any new LI for my main Shep which I want to take to ME3 ( while to have new LI looks as a only way to finish my relationship with Kaidan).


There is no way to break up with your ME1 LI. Outside of Horizon, there is no contact with Kaidan; there's absolutely no way to talk things out or break things off.

Crappy writing, if you ask me. It's forcing a conflict in ME3.


exactly..there should be option to break up with Kaidan, so my Shep don't have to be " cheater" or so. While I don't plan for her any ME2 LIs, I hope, that at last there will be option for that in ME3, becouse I think, that Kaidan should ratcher stay with his new girlfriend from Citadele( hmm..Im wonder if this doctor that's doctor Michel?), than try to rebuild his relationship with  my Shep, especially after Horizont  and his lack of trust about her work for Cerberus....

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guys...what do you think Kaidan would do if you "cheat"?


I seriously don't want to find out ingame, which is why I've been faithful on all playthroughs, and deleted the character that had Kelly "dancing" for her.  I've thought about it, but I could never bring that character into ME3, because whether Kaidan would be angry or sad or just disappointed, I don't want to see it.  Posted Image

I think the writers will probably give us an ultimatum scene in ME3, like the one in ME1, where you have to choose between love interests.  Kaidan would understand that even though it's only been a few months for Shepard, things have changed, especially after Horizon, and it may have never worked out between them anyway.  Kaidan will probably be sad, and maybe angry, but I don't think he'd ever attack the new LI, or even raise his voice.  And people who think it's a great idea for their new love interest to fight with the old one...Posted Image  How obnoxiously out of character that would be for most of the ME2 love interests.  If those people really liked those characters, they would recognize that making them OOC just to stroke their egos is pretty lame.


Well said.

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Darazelly wrote...

RGC_Ines wrote...

Is there any way to break up with Kaidan at Horizont ( any dialog option),? Im asking, becouse Im still in " relationship" with him, but I think ( especially after mail from him) that we should go separate ways, In this same time, I don't want to have any new LI for my main Shep which I want to take to ME3 ( while to have new LI looks as a only way to finish my relationship with Kaidan).


I'm pretty certain that there is no such option. I've never heard of it at least.


And on a side note... Yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me. :bandit:
(sketch, will color it properly once I'm finished with coloring the cover image for a classmate's RPG adventure)

it's really cute!!

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RGC_Ines wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

RGC_Ines wrote...

Is there any way to break up with Kaidan at Horizont ( any dialog option),? Im asking, becouse Im still in " relationship" with him, but I think ( especially after mail from him) that we should go separate ways, In this same time, I don't want to have any new LI for my main Shep which I want to take to ME3 ( while to have new LI looks as a only way to finish my relationship with Kaidan).


There is no way to break up with your ME1 LI. Outside of Horizon, there is no contact with Kaidan; there's absolutely no way to talk things out or break things off.

Crappy writing, if you ask me. It's forcing a conflict in ME3.


exactly..there should be option to break up with Kaidan, so my Shep don't have to be " cheater" or so. While I don't plan for her any ME2 LIs, I hope, that at last there will be option for that in ME3, becouse I think, that Kaidan should ratcher stay with his new girlfriend from Citadele( hmm..Im wonder if this doctor that's doctor Michel?), than try to rebuild his relationship with  my Shep, especially after Horizont  and his lack of trust about her work for Cerberus....


Honestly, I think he mentioned the doctor to try to clear the air a little with Shepard. He says that his friends talked him into it and it was nothing serious. That means it was just a casual date or two that meant nothing to him.

I think he still cares quite a bit for Shepard. Just because they had a fight doesn't mean that it's time to call it quits IMO. If they can work things out, then their relationship could be even stronger for it.

Anyway, just something to think about =]

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Darazelly wrote...
I'm pretty certain that there is no such option. I've never heard of it at least.


And on a side note... Yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me. :bandit:
(sketch, will color it properly once I'm finished with coloring the cover image for a classmate's RPG adventure)


Darazelly is back!  And bearing Shenko gifts! :wub:  (Directed at the picture, just to be clear)

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OdScIs wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Shenzi wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Joisan wrote...

OdScIs wrote...

guys...what do you think Kaidan would do if you "cheat"?


I think he would take that as a signal that the relationship is over.  Permanently.  Whether Bioware will have the guts for this considering how much they were pushing us to "cheat" I don't know.


I see him disappear for good then when it's over. No anger, nothing, just that glare of his before he walks off and that'll be the last you see of him. He'll make sure of that.

Dunno really...don't wanna think about it either but I do hope there are some major consequences for cheating, even if a lot of people don't consider it cheating.


I agree with what Jo and Jho have said as far as what should happen, you cheat then the relationship is over.

However bioware could go with the DAO model and just force you to make a choice between the two LIs.



I'm actually leaning toward the DA:O model, despite believing that Meghan deserves to never see him again (in fact that's what she's positive will happen, she thinks he's gone for good).  But they've said they wanted the ME1s and the ME2s to have "equal footing" going into ME3, so I'm thinking Shep will just have to choose.

yeah...but if you cheat it has to be a consecuence...it's not fair that you can cheat and then be againg with Kaidan...not fair for my lonely shep...


Never said Meghan would go back with Kaidan.  She likes her turian and fully expects Kaidan to have washed his hands of her.  Avery's the celibate one, but even she thinks it's over, she's just not over him.

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Jhosephine wrote...

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I'm actually leaning toward the DA:O model, despite believing that Meghan deserves to never see him again (in fact that's what she's positive will happen, she thinks he's gone for good).  But they've said they wanted the ME1s and the ME2s to have "equal footing" going into ME3, so I'm thinking Shep will just have to choose.


Well if it's the DA: O model..you can just give Kaidan a gift and everything is alrighty again :wizard:

"Here Kai kai, have some boxers"
"D'awwwww....I lub you!"


See.


No, model ship.  He and Alistair can play with their toys.

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Sialater wrote...

No, model ship.  He and Alistair can play with their toys.


Now there's a hilarious mental image :lol:

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fortunesque wrote...

RGC_Ines wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

RGC_Ines wrote...

Is there any way to break up with Kaidan at Horizont ( any dialog option),? Im asking, becouse Im still in " relationship" with him, but I think ( especially after mail from him) that we should go separate ways, In this same time, I don't want to have any new LI for my main Shep which I want to take to ME3 ( while to have new LI looks as a only way to finish my relationship with Kaidan).


There is no way to break up with your ME1 LI. Outside of Horizon, there is no contact with Kaidan; there's absolutely no way to talk things out or break things off.

Crappy writing, if you ask me. It's forcing a conflict in ME3.


exactly..there should be option to break up with Kaidan, so my Shep don't have to be " cheater" or so. While I don't plan for her any ME2 LIs, I hope, that at last there will be option for that in ME3, becouse I think, that Kaidan should ratcher stay with his new girlfriend from Citadele( hmm..Im wonder if this doctor that's doctor Michel?), than try to rebuild his relationship with  my Shep, especially after Horizont  and his lack of trust about her work for Cerberus....


Honestly, I think he mentioned the doctor to try to clear the air a little with Shepard. He says that his friends talked him into it and it was nothing serious. That means it was just a casual date or two that meant nothing to him.

I think he still cares quite a bit for Shepard. Just because they had a fight doesn't mean that it's time to call it quits IMO. If they can work things out, then their relationship could be even stronger for it.

Anyway, just something to think about =]




It wasn't the fight, Fort.  It was the walking away.

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Jhosephine wrote...

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No, model ship.  He and Alistair can play with their toys.


Now there's a hilarious sexy mental image ;)


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I'm sure there will be half a dozen or more clips of a Kaidan-Garrus or Kaidan-Thane confrontation within a week of ME3 being released if that's the way they go. I admit, given previous history it's the most likely route for Bioware to go but I keep hoping they'll find a quad...

What's that they say about insanity again?

Modifié par Joisan, 05 mai 2010 - 08:49 .


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Joisan wrote...

I'm sure there will be half a dozen or more clips of a Kaidan-Garrus or Kaidan-Thane confrontation within a week of ME3 being released if that's the way they go. I admit, given previous history it's the most likely route for Bioware to go but I keep hoping they'll find a quad...

What's that they say about insanity again?



I don't actually expect a confrontation between Garrus and Kaidan.  it's out of character for both. 

Besides, you know how things on the Normandy work, Shep fixes all the problems.

Modifié par Sialater, 05 mai 2010 - 08:50 .


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Sialater wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

RGC_Ines wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

RGC_Ines wrote...

Is there any way to break up with Kaidan at Horizont ( any dialog option),? Im asking, becouse Im still in " relationship" with him, but I think ( especially after mail from him) that we should go separate ways, In this same time, I don't want to have any new LI for my main Shep which I want to take to ME3 ( while to have new LI looks as a only way to finish my relationship with Kaidan).


There is no way to break up with your ME1 LI. Outside of Horizon, there is no contact with Kaidan; there's absolutely no way to talk things out or break things off.

Crappy writing, if you ask me. It's forcing a conflict in ME3.


exactly..there should be option to break up with Kaidan, so my Shep don't have to be " cheater" or so. While I don't plan for her any ME2 LIs, I hope, that at last there will be option for that in ME3, becouse I think, that Kaidan should ratcher stay with his new girlfriend from Citadele( hmm..Im wonder if this doctor that's doctor Michel?), than try to rebuild his relationship with  my Shep, especially after Horizont  and his lack of trust about her work for Cerberus....


Honestly, I think he mentioned the doctor to try to clear the air a little with Shepard. He says that his friends talked him into it and it was nothing serious. That means it was just a casual date or two that meant nothing to him.

I think he still cares quite a bit for Shepard. Just because they had a fight doesn't mean that it's time to call it quits IMO. If they can work things out, then their relationship could be even stronger for it.

Anyway, just something to think about =]




It wasn't the fight, Fort.  It was the walking away.


He probably left before he got even angrier.

Regardless, the whole thing was crappy writing. It's forcing drama in where it doesn't have to be.

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fortunesque wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Sialater wrote...

No, model ship.  He and Alistair can play with their toys.


Now there's a hilarious sexy mental image ;)


fix'd


lol...I went from Awwwww...to....WHOA....:P

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Joisan wrote...

I'm sure there will be half a dozen or more clips of a Kaidan-Garrus or Kaidan-Thane confrontation within a week of ME3 being released if that's the way they go. I admit, given previous history it's the most likely route for Bioware to go but I keep hoping they'll find a quad...

What's that they say about insanity again?


Naw. It'll be Ash-whoever and Liara-whoever. Kaidan doesn't exist in marketing because its canon to kill him and it's canon to be Sheploo and have relations with everyone.

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fortunesque wrote...

Joisan wrote...

I'm sure there will be half a dozen or more clips of a Kaidan-Garrus or Kaidan-Thane confrontation within a week of ME3 being released if that's the way they go. I admit, given previous history it's the most likely route for Bioware to go but I keep hoping they'll find a quad...

What's that they say about insanity again?


Naw. It'll be Ash-whoever and Liara-whoever. Kaidan doesn't exist in marketing because its canon to kill him and it's canon to be Sheploo and have relations with everyone.


I have no idea why, but this just came to mind...hahaha...my mind is a mess :lol:

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Sialater wrote...

Joisan wrote...

I'm sure there will be half a dozen or more clips of a Kaidan-Garrus or Kaidan-Thane confrontation within a week of ME3 being released if that's the way they go. I admit, given previous history it's the most likely route for Bioware to go but I keep hoping they'll find a quad...

What's that they say about insanity again?



I don't actually expect a confrontation between Garrus and Kaidan.  it's out of character for both. 

Besides, you know how things on the Normandy work, Shep fixes all the problems.

probably that's what's gonna happend...in your case (garrus), THey could argue, and in the end, it will be like:
who do you choose shepard?

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fortunesque wrote...

Joisan wrote...

I'm sure there will be half a dozen or more clips of a Kaidan-Garrus or Kaidan-Thane confrontation within a week of ME3 being released if that's the way they go. I admit, given previous history it's the most likely route for Bioware to go but I keep hoping they'll find a quad...

What's that they say about insanity again?


Naw. It'll be Ash-whoever and Liara-whoever. Kaidan doesn't exist in marketing because its canon to kill him and it's canon to be Sheploo and have relations with everyone.


People will still upload recordings of the scene to youtube.  Example: I found 3 videos of the scene where Shepard has to choose between Liara and Kaidan.

And that is what I meant when I said a Kaidan-Garrus or Kaidan-Thane confrontation.  I meant where they force Shepard to choose between them.  Like I said, I would be willing to bet that vids of such a scene would appear on YouTube in short order.

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RGC_Ines wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

RGC_Ines wrote...

Is there any way to break up with Kaidan at Horizont ( any dialog option),? Im asking, becouse Im still in " relationship" with him, but I think ( especially after mail from him) that we should go separate ways, In this same time, I don't want to have any new LI for my main Shep which I want to take to ME3 ( while to have new LI looks as a only way to finish my relationship with Kaidan).


There is no way to break up with your ME1 LI. Outside of Horizon, there is no contact with Kaidan; there's absolutely no way to talk things out or break things off.

Crappy writing, if you ask me. It's forcing a conflict in ME3.


exactly..there should be option to break up with Kaidan, so my Shep don't have to be " cheater" or so. While I don't plan for her any ME2 LIs, I hope, that at last there will be option for that in ME3, becouse I think, that Kaidan should ratcher stay with his new girlfriend from Citadele( hmm..Im wonder if this doctor that's doctor Michel?), than try to rebuild his relationship with  my Shep, especially after Horizont  and his lack of trust about her work for Cerberus....


I really don't think that the Doctor from the Citadel is Kaidan's new girlfriend.  He was set up on a date with her, and the way it sounded in the email, just going for drinks with a woman was a huge step for him.  Considering that Shepard had been dead for two years, that's not unreasonable at all.  And there's no indication that it's Dr. Michel, her email sounded like she's pining for Garrus.

As for Horizon, if you prefer working for the Illusive Man to the Systems Alliance, that's your prerogative.  Kaidan's probably not a good romance option for a renegade leaning character who doesn't want to work with the Alliance.  You should cut him some slack, however, since he does remember how Cerberus was presented in the first game, and even in ME2, this organization is horrible. 

The Illusive Man is using Shepard, and is giving her pretty gifts, and surrounding her with loyal crew members, to lull her into a false sense of security.  This is still the man who led the organization that purposely killed and tortured Marines on Akuze, who killed Kahoku, who tortured Jack, who killed other biotic children in order to experiment on Jack, who tried to commit terrorism on the Migrant Fleet...and so on.  He also lies about Liara, lures Kaidan/Ashley to Horizon as bait for the Collectors, plants rumors that Shepard was alive all this time and working with Cerberus...these are facts that the game gives us.  But we are unable to cut ties with this organization, for the sake of plot. 

After seeing the Horizon scene for the first time, I was upset, but I quickly realized that I was much more sympathetic towards Kaidan's point of view than my own character's in that scene.  In fact, Shepard does and says nothing that would convince Kaidan/Ashley that working for Cerberus is the right thing.  I'm glad that Kaidan and Ashley acted like adults with their own minds, who are loyal to the Alliance, and weren't going to just follow Shepard blindly.  I just wish I could have roleplayed my character as a thinking adult also, who could have ditched Cerberus, or at least questioned their actions more.