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jillyfae wrote...

@Sia: I'm assuming he's Anomen from Baldur's Gate II, which someday I really ought to try and play, but I have a weird mental block about D&D games.


I'd play it, but I'm pretty sure the graphics would annoy me,now. ;)


Oddly enough it never bothers me. Heh..no detail at all in the characters on screen, but the dialogue and story give them all the detail they need. I find the surroundings beautifully done still for such an old game.

Anyway, I'm back on my Kaidan schedule...found a lovely background shot as well. Now to make the choice of adding biotics or not...*giggles*

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Just got one of the shots I needed, thanks again Ki and Shenzi! :) hehe...whooo...and some art by NeitiCora...because it's funny ;)

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lol.

haven't dropped by the thread in a long while. this made my day!

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@ Sia sorry you were never blessed with children. I never had any either and yes it seems as if something is missing.



@ Jho what ever the last one was do the other - if biotics on last pic do without - this way you won't get bored and we will have your wonderful pictures.



Waiting to get shot, nurse went on on an errand. Sigh!

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Haha... yeah the side-effects of awesome games. I realized though, that I am not so much put off by older graphics or anything, but by now I am totally disappointed if I have an RPG and can't have a romance. LoL... it's foolish and ridiculous but still. I'd totally go back to play more Fallout 3 if I had the chance for a decent romance. Hmm... on the other hand, I suppose I could accept a little less romance if there was a decent amount of... 'gutter'.

I'm curious about the Witcher 2, though... they had both in the game and it worked out quite well for me. I just really hope they go back to the original design for Geralt's face... the new one just doesn't cut it.

Ah well... I've had too much coffee... so I better stop typing and start killing something... huzzah...

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@ Sia sorry you were never blessed with children. I never had any either and yes it seems as if something is missing.


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for you, Sia.  I can't have children of my own either barring IVF with a donated egg, so I can appreciate how hard that must be for you :(

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Joisan wrote...

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@ Sia sorry you were never blessed with children. I never had any either and yes it seems as if something is missing.


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for you, Sia.  I can't have children of my own either barring IVF with a donated egg, so I can appreciate how hard that must be for you :(


We haven't given up: I'm being treated for hypothyroidism.  But IVF looks likely.  At the moment, I'm about as fertile as a Grey Warden.

Still pisses me off when I see abused children, though.  But then, I have a soft heart.  I keep bringing home stray animals and allowing friends to rent rooms in our house.  Starting to feel like Shepard and her collecting of strays. :D

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Hey everyone!



@ Sia- I hope you recover quickly and that the injuries aren't permanent. Here's a smoldering gaze Kaidan to help you smile.

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Hey everyone!

@ Sia- I hope you recover quickly and that the injuries aren't permanent. Here's a smoldering gaze Kaidan to help you smile.
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Thank you, Fort!

~goes back her couch~

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Nightodie wrote...

@ Sia sorry you were never blessed with children. I never had any either and yes it seems as if something is missing.

@ Jho what ever the last one was do the other - if biotics on last pic do without - this way you won't get bored and we will have your wonderful pictures.

Waiting to get shot, nurse went on on an errand. Sigh!


Well last two pics were non-Kaidan hehe....will see when the pic is finished if it needs biotics. Somehow the thought of Shepard and Kaidan both flaring up as they share a kiss is just making me squee ;)

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Well last two pics were non-Kaidan hehe....will see when the pic is finished if it needs biotics. Somehow the thought of Shepard and Kaidan both flaring up as they share a kiss is just making me squee ;)


Oooo. Shared bioticness.

*writes down in idea book*

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Jhosephine wrote...

Nightodie wrote...

@ Sia sorry you were never blessed with children. I never had any either and yes it seems as if something is missing.

@ Jho what ever the last one was do the other - if biotics on last pic do without - this way you won't get bored and we will have your wonderful pictures.

Waiting to get shot, nurse went on on an errand. Sigh!


Well last two pics were non-Kaidan hehe....will see when the pic is finished if it needs biotics. Somehow the thought of Shepard and Kaidan both flaring up as they share a kiss is just making me squee ;)


Me, too.  :D

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legbamel wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Nightodie wrote...

@ Sia sorry you were never blessed with children. I never had any either and yes it seems as if something is missing.

@ Jho what ever the last one was do the other - if biotics on last pic do without - this way you won't get bored and we will have your wonderful pictures.

Waiting to get shot, nurse went on on an errand. Sigh!


Well last two pics were non-Kaidan hehe....will see when the pic is finished if it needs biotics. Somehow the thought of Shepard and Kaidan both flaring up as they share a kiss is just making me squee ;)


Me, too.  :D


hehe...pic isn't done yet though it's starting to look finished. Might, just might, finish it later this eve...if Kaidan and Shepard cooperate that is. But they are busy smooching, so it should be easy :lol:

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Hey everyone. Just popping in with a quick question (or series of related questions).



How similar is Kaidan to your Shepard? In what respects are they different? And what effects do you think they have on each other?



Was just pondering this after a friend talked about real love meaning that you don't want to change someone; yet, inevitably, relationships do result in change.

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Kaidan is a stabilizing influence on my Sheps, even the paragon. He doesn't fly off the handle (unless you're on Horizon, the big doofus) and he reminds her to stop and think instead of throwing herself into things before they can get worse (and thus making them worse, sometimes). They're both comfortable leading but Shep doesn't know how else to work. She's been in charge so long and so successfully that she can't imagine taking orders. Kaidan reminds her that she really needs input from others and that getting it doesn't make her weak or stupid. She really, really needs a guy like him around.



That doesn't mean that he wants her to change. I think he gets a kick out of the way she flies on pure adrenaline and wits, even if it scares the hell out of him. She takes chances he never would.

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I think Shepard and Kaidan balance each other in a very good way. Shepard seems to be quick to action. Both a paragon and renegade Shepard can be quite rash at times, while Kaidan is methodical and thoughful.
And sometimes even the savior of the galaxy needs a shoulder to rest her head on. Shepard needs someone who can give her the stability the rest of her life lacks.
And Kaidan needs someone  who isn't intimidated by his biotics. I remember the talk he had about Rahna being afraid of him. He needs a woman who he doesn't has to worry about accidentally hurting or frighten.
And Shepard  needs a man who can walk by her side and don't feel threaten just because the spotlight isn't on him. Kaidan is strong enough in himself to live with that.

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@Estelindis:

What my Shep and Kaidan share: Sincerity when it comes to beliefs and feelings, a strong resolve and the tendency to keep things of the past alive in the present. Not in a bad way though, but mainly as reminder and maybe even an inspiration.



I think my Sheppy is a bit less controlled though, she will let her emotions out when she needs to. So, there will be times when she pouts instead of doing something about the problem. Additionally, my Shepard tends to speak her mind more freely. She'll say if she doesn't like someone, while Kaidan is the type that will try to be a bit more diplomatic.

Besides that though, I think the main effect they have on each other is to give strength to one-another. They know that they can always count on the other. If they fall, there will be a hand to help them up. I also look at them as each other's... morale compass? Both will speak their mind if they have doubts about a decision or something like that.



I won't comment the 'real love' thing. It's too cryptic for my taste and I believe in change simply being inevitable, no matter if within a relationship or personal development.

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fortunesque wrote...

Hey everyone!

@ Sia- I hope you recover quickly and that the injuries aren't permanent. Here's a smoldering gaze Kaidan to help you smile.
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i think this is your favorite pic of Kaidan fort (mine too:P)
btw Hi everyone

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Still here...though lurking while working on a pic. Cute little reaper :lol:

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Estelindis wrote...

Hey everyone. Just popping in with a quick question (or series of related questions).

How similar is Kaidan to your Shepard? In what respects are they different? And what effects do you think they have on each other?

Was just pondering this after a friend talked about real love meaning that you don't want to change someone; yet, inevitably, relationships do result in change.



That's actually something I've been thinking about a lot.  I have two Sheps.  One of whom is good for him, one of whom is oil to his water.  Beyond that, it's been difficult since the differences between Meghan and Avery are subtle.  

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Estelindis wrote...
How similar is Kaidan to your Shepard? In what respects are they different? And what effects do you think they have on each other?

Was just pondering this after a friend talked about real love meaning that you don't want to change someone; yet, inevitably, relationships do result in change.


For my paragon Shepard Gwen, I'd say they're a lot alike, in that they are both somewhat quiet, reserved people, until you get to know them well.  They're also alike in their need to help others, and their loyal natures.

Gwen is more social out of necessity, however, she has always naturally gravitated towards being a leader, and part of that is getting to know the people around you.  Kaidan seems to have a harder time with that, like he doesn't want to impose on people.  Gwen is also more pragmatic, when it comes to doing what needs to be done to get a job done.  She doesn't want to "cut corners", per se, but she doesn't hesitate to get her hands dirty if need be.

I think your friend is right about relationships resulting in change, sometimes it's compromise, which is natural, but sometimes people just adapt to their partners, for better or worse.  What I've been wondering, in terms of ME3, is whether Kaidan will be leaving the Alliance in order to join Shepard, or if the Alliance will finally welcome Shepard back.  I think that first option might require some changes to Kaidan's character, which would worry me...

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The games seem to foreshadow or build up to the Council and Alliance eventually welcoming Shepard back. At the very least - if you defy Cerberus.

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Sorry to interrupt the discussion (which I'll read better when I'm done dorking around) but has someone confirmed flycamming working in DA:O yet? Just curious :)

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Jhosephine wrote...

Kioux wrote...

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Still here...though lurking while working on a pic. Cute little reaper :lol:


Oh no you didn't!!

I was writing down a random scene that came to me for after Virmire... still avoiding going there yet. 

My Shepard is morally very similar to Kaidan.  But emotionally up until she met him she shut others out and was the Commander.  Getting to know him better and liking the outcome made her able to become closer to the crew.  I think she had the same effect on him.

Will love change them. I agree with Ki, there may be some change, some compromise - but in the end they will be

together because they need each other.

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There's a line in Pride and Prejudice where Darcy comments that he was given proper principles, but left to follow them in pride and arrogance. Until Lizzy, of course. One of my Shepards always makes me think of that, as she was taught to do the right thing, save lives, blah blah blah, but she's very cold and calculating about it, w/o much compassion or emotional investment in the people around her. She gets to know them so they're easier to anticipate, not because of any innate friendliness.

She'd never been in danger of cutting corners in the traditional sense, of trying to get to the results w/o considering the consequences, but rather in not taking the emotions of others into account in her calculations. She doesn't need help thinking through things, she needs help feeling things. And Kaidan is a very compassionate individual, so he helps with that.

(For those reading Lost for Words, this is obviously not Ella's problem. Ella is more like legbamel's description, in that Kaidan provides a steadying, calming influence for her temper.)

eta:  and yes, being in love changes people, but they can try and change together, so the relationship gets stronger instead of weaker.  It all depends on the people involved, and how determined they are to fight for their relationship.  Kaidan and Shep are both fighters, so if they wanted to make it work, I'm pretty sure they could.  It all depends on how much they want to, in ME3.

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