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Kioux wrote...

Daewan wrote...

Drive by random whining.
FF.net: can't
write sex scenes. Likes to eat submissions.
AFF.net: no author
notes, no favorites, no subscriptions. Very little feedback.
DA:
also no sex scenes. World's most annoying sign-up form.



I thought I saw a few sex scenes on ff.net... Ah well, I guess once/if I come around to that, I'll just do the double post - one on aff and one on ff...


There aren't supposed to be sex scenes on ff.net but there a lot of people that ignore the rule

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Happy 1400 Yay!!!



Okay this male thing is totally not working, cause I can't get off Kaidan. Yeah this is going to be hard.



Everytime I say something or do something I'm like Zin does that better.



I guess when I get up to the sex scene, well I don't know what I will do. probably AFF because it's pretty detailed then tone it down for FFN ... but I'm not sure.



Hello everyone!!!



morning Fort, did you get any sleep?


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Daewan wrote...
Drive by random whining.
FF.net: can't write sex scenes. Likes to eat submissions.

I've read several sex scenes on ff.net, but maybe those authors are testing the limits of what they're supposed to get away with. Or maybe we're talking about sex scenes that take the more hardcore turn that you're likely to find on aff.net. There's a lot I don't like about ff.net's setup, but it does have probably the largest fanfic readership you're likely to find.

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I love the story and author alters you can setup on ff.net, it always make me happy to log onto my PC and find new fics & updates waiting for me in my inbox :)

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Shenzi wrote...

I love the story and author alters you can setup on ff.net, it always make me happy to log onto my PC and find new fics & updates waiting for me in my inbox :)


Oh yes there is that!
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Haha. I did that with my brother when he created his ME1 carryover game.

He wasn't playing right at all! His vanguard build was a mess! He didn't take the right squadmates and didn't use the powerwheel enough!

My friend refused to use the power wheel. I kept yelling "Overload! Use Overload! My god, you're in Infiltrator, OVERLOAD!" I've been a major power user for both games, the idea that he'd take on the entire galaxy with nothing but his sniper rifle was driving me mad.

Oh right, and then he complained when he couldn't get past this one simulation on Pinnacle Station. I hadn't played the game in a few months, but I kept goading him that I could do it on my first try. It actually took two tries, and I ended up unlocking the pistol achievement that he had been hugely proud of not unlocking throughout his two playthroughs.

I don't think the friendship has recovered fully yet.


Pfft. Shooter players.

That kind of attitude could get someone through in ME2, but ME1 is a different story, especially on higher difficulties.

I'm always using my powers. My vanguard, Kaidan, and Wrex mop the place up :D



Wha--??? Take on the entire galaxy with something besides a sniper rifle? Are you mad? Oh, oh. I get it. You mean use the Cain, too. Oh, phew. I was worried you were talking about something entirely different there for a moment. ;)

@Fort...don't make my Shep introduce you to her Widow. She can be mean. Just ask the Guys. ;)


Actually, my current playthrough in ME1 is my first w/a mShep and I just discovered Assasination. Love that. The power, not the mShep. His VA needs to learn that there are more modes than just monotone. Plus...his butt is definitely not cuter than Kaidan's. I spend most of my time wishing I could put Kaidan at point. 

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Wha--??? Take on the entire galaxy with something besides a sniper rifle? Are you mad? Oh, oh. I get it. You mean use the Cain, too. Oh, phew. I was worried you were talking about something entirely different there for a moment. ;)

@Fort...don't make my Shep introduce you to her Widow. She can be mean. Just ask the Guys. ;)

Oh nononono, the Cain has no finesse. Not like a well aimed Widow to a YMIR mechs face.

My Infiltrator did take a far more weapon-focused approach in ME2, but I was throwing my squadmates powers left and right.

My Team Awesome of ME1 was always Garrus and Kaidan. I don't know why, but I love me some overloading/sabotaging/damping/neural shocking goodness. Far more than using biotics, which I didn't expect going into it given how much I like my mages and Jedi powers before playing ME1.

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JaerWolfe wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

fortunesque wrote...
Haha. I did that with my brother when he created his ME1 carryover game.

He wasn't playing right at all! His vanguard build was a mess! He didn't take the right squadmates and didn't use the powerwheel enough!

My friend refused to use the power wheel. I kept yelling "Overload! Use Overload! My god, you're in Infiltrator, OVERLOAD!" I've been a major power user for both games, the idea that he'd take on the entire galaxy with nothing but his sniper rifle was driving me mad.

Oh right, and then he complained when he couldn't get past this one simulation on Pinnacle Station. I hadn't played the game in a few months, but I kept goading him that I could do it on my first try. It actually took two tries, and I ended up unlocking the pistol achievement that he had been hugely proud of not unlocking throughout his two playthroughs.

I don't think the friendship has recovered fully yet.


Pfft. Shooter players.

That kind of attitude could get someone through in ME2, but ME1 is a different story, especially on higher difficulties.

I'm always using my powers. My vanguard, Kaidan, and Wrex mop the place up :D



Wha--??? Take on the entire galaxy with something besides a sniper rifle? Are you mad? Oh, oh. I get it. You mean use the Cain, too. Oh, phew. I was worried you were talking about something entirely different there for a moment. ;)

@Fort...don't make my Shep introduce you to her Widow. She can be mean. Just ask the Guys. ;)


Actually, my current playthrough in ME1 is my first w/a mShep and I just discovered Assasination. Love that. The power, not the mShep. His VA needs to learn that there are more modes than just monotone. Plus...his butt is definitely not cuter than Kaidan's. I spend most of my time wishing I could put Kaidan at point. 


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@Pacifien...Agreed that the Cain has no finesse. I take a sadistic delight in it's boom factor, however, lol. Plus I combo it w/my Widow at the big bad at the end for a quicker kill.



I have never played ME1 through as an Infiltrator, but it's consistently what I play in ME2. The shooting is so much better. Love my head shots. My first PT in ME1 was as a Vanguard.



I am surprised by the slight differences in dialog playing through as a mShep. I wish there were more bromance dialog with Kaidan, though. I just finished Noveria and they so should have had a chat about Gianni Parasemi (sp), the undercover chick.



My ME1 team was either Wrex or Garrus with a constant Kaidan. Depended on the attitude I was in. In ME2...my team supreme for my Infiltrator is Mordin (if Bioware loves me, in ME3 he will return and sing as he incinerates bad guys) and Samara. I took Garrus and Thane (what was I thinking????) and promised I would never use them as a team again with my Infiltrator.

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I took the discussion when you recruit Liara as a sort of bromance moment. Granted, you get the same thing if you're femShep, but still. I too wish there was bromance with Kaidan, I never really got that vibe from him aside from that one conversation.

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JaerWolfe wrote...
I am surprised by the slight differences in dialog playing through as a mShep. I wish there were more bromance dialog with Kaidan, though. I just finished Noveria and they so should have had a chat about Gianni Parasemi (sp), the undercover chick.

I remember being irritated that I couldn't talk to Kaidan after I left the infirmary during my male Shepard playthrough. What, so a female Shepard can talk to Kaidan and Ashley, but a male Shepard is only interested in listening to Ashley's input? Already thinking with the wrong brain.

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I took Garrus and Thane (what was I thinking????) and promised I would never use them as a team again with my Infiltrator.

Garrus's usefulness as a squadmate seemed to change with the difficulty level. Awesome when playing Normal difficulty. Bullet fodder when playing Insanity difficulty. Thane was actually the opposite, which is ridiculous because his biotic powers are arguably more use to me on the lower difficulties when I don't have to worry about stripping enemy defenses first. Maybe that's how they chose to balance the character with the increased difficulty, powers harder to use, but squadmate harder to kill to compensate.

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Just popping in out of lurker status...



I actually don't really think all that hard about combat skills when taking out a character. I'm just like "Let's take out Jack and Miranda for teh lulz." Then again, that's probably why I play on Casual...

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Collider wrote...

I took the discussion when you recruit Liara as a sort of bromance moment. Granted, you get the same thing if you're femShep, but still. I too wish there was bromance with Kaidan, I never really got that vibe from him aside from that one conversation.


Agreed. It was very odd to be waiting for them to comment on something and not getting any dialog. At which point I decided DAO had completely spoiled me.


Pacifien wrote...

JaerWolfe wrote...
I am surprised by the slight differences in dialog playing through as a mShep. I wish there were more bromance dialog with Kaidan, though. I just finished Noveria and they so should have had a chat about Gianni Parasemi (sp), the undercover chick.

I remember being irritated that I couldn't talk to Kaidan after I left the infirmary during my male Shepard playthrough. What, so a female Shepard can talk to Kaidan and Ashley, but a male Shepard is only interested in listening to Ashley's input? Already thinking with the wrong brain.


I took my mShep as a chance to say all the snarky things to Ash that my fShep would never say to Kaidan. Like the snap about fraternization after they're at the observation window. She's already getting Virmired once I get there...should be next. My mShep is not romancing anyone through ME1. I'm on the fence and leaning toward Jack as a romance for ME2. I'm curious about how they play it.

JaerWolfe wrote...
I took Garrus and Thane (what was I thinking????) and promised I would never use them as a team again with my Infiltrator.


Garrus's usefulness as a squadmate seemed to change with the difficulty level. Awesome when playing Normal difficulty. Bullet fodder when playing Insanity difficulty. Thane was actually the opposite, which is ridiculous because his biotic powers are arguably more use to me on the lower difficulties when I don't have to worry about stripping enemy defenses first. Maybe that's how they chose to balance the character with the increased difficulty, powers harder to use, but squadmate harder to kill to compensate.


I took G & T on the derelict Reaper and died so often I wanted to shoot them myself. I'd be surrounded by husks with scions blue snotting me and no backup anywhere. Took M & S the next time, on Veteran, and didn't have a problem. In ME3, Kaidan better have biotic capabilities near Samara's. She kicked butt.

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Strike wrote...

Just popping in out of lurker status...

I actually don't really think all that hard about combat skills when taking out a character. I'm just like "Let's take out Jack and Miranda for teh lulz." Then again, that's probably why I play on Casual...


I thought more about tacticis in ME1, there I tried to get a good mix of biotics and tech, even if Garrus and Kaidan were my favorites. Together with my adept or vanguard Shep they were unstoppable. But in ME2 I just take the characters I like best which usually means Garrus, Tali and Miranda, and since the DLC came out Kasumi.

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I actually had quite a bit of fun taking the Sniper Trio (my character included).

And for some reason, I always preferred them having the discussion about stupid orders during the Samara quest. I admit, I don't feel the urge or need to actually play on insanity difficulty - I am not an expert player (though I am a passionate one) and I have enough frustration in my life that I don't need even more due to a difficulty setting.



Oh well... *recloaks to read Night's 11th*

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@Lisa H...I am the opposite, oddly enough. I took my buds w/me in ME1 and the best team for my PC in ME2. Of course, I play ME1 for story and ME2 to shoot things. I like Kasumi as a character, but after the tenth time reviving her she got benched in favor of someone else.



@Ki...I have never managed insanity, yet. I have a rule about walking away from the game if my language becomes bad enough to make a sailor blush and Insanity quickly drives me there, lol. There are times on Veteran that I have to walk away.

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@Ki...I have never managed insanity, yet. I have a rule about walking away from the game if my language becomes bad enough to make a sailor blush and Insanity quickly drives me there, lol. There are times on Veteran that I have to walk away.


LoL, yeah I know that feeling. Usually very amusing if sometimes comes to visit me while I'm in the middle of an annoying part of the game. My ex is kinda used to it, so he just sits and smirks... and sometimes he's amazed at the new word-creations I present. I haven't broken a keyboard yet... but I think I was close a few times.
I've died a few times on Veteran, but I won't even try insanity - not after reading some of the comments about it. 
I don't mind a challeneg but as I said.. no need for extra frustration.

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JaerWolfe wrote...
*snip*I'm on the fence and leaning toward Jack as a romance for ME2. I'm curious about how they play it.

Jack's one of the best romances of any game I've ever played. In my opinion.

JaerWolfe wrote...
In ME3, Kaidan better have biotic capabilities near Samara's. She kicked butt.

I've been curious about how strong Kaidan's biotics are really supposed to be in comparison to other biotics. They're considerable, and both Wrex and Garrus mention the Alliance should have never dropped the L2 implants because the results were impressive. So that tells me that Kaidan is a powerful biotic for a human, but does that make him a powerful biotic compared to an Asari that has honed her own biotic skills? Like, could he go toe to toe with Liara?

I got the impression that Samara's biotics were exceptional even for an asari. I don't think there's anything in the game or codex that backs up that belief, but I figured if you're going to convince an asari to follow you on a suicide mission, might as well get the strongest you can. And based on that suicide mission, I know that Jack's biotic abilities match Samara's.

I'm going to say that Jack's biotics surpass Kaidan's on raw power, but Kaidan is better trained at using his biotics and other military skills. It's the age old argument of who would win in a fight: the one who works on raw instinct and never holds back or the one who is patient and waits for an opening. I'd put my money on the latter, but the fun thing about the former is that crazy cosmic accidents can favor them unexpectedly.

So, okay, that's just a long way of me saying I also believe Kaidan's biotic capabilities are near Samara's. If he's just the first generation of human biotics, I wonder how much further they can take it.

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I've been meaning to try Jack's romance, but if it's completely one sided until the pre-suicide mission romance scene, I don't think it's for me.

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@Ki...I have never managed insanity, yet. I have a rule about walking away from the game if my language becomes bad enough to make a sailor blush and Insanity quickly drives me there, lol. There are times on Veteran that I have to walk away.

My first ME2 playthrough was on Normal, because the developers outright tell you that the entire balance of the game is based on Normal difficulty. It went well enough, and since I did rather well with the Insanity difficulty in ME1, I decided to go for it on my second ME2 playthrough. I never went far past Freedom's Progress. Not only that, but I did the mistake of trying NG+ as my introduction into the world of Insanity, which is supposed to be Insanity with an extra plate of crazy.

I've played ME2 enough to take baby steps up to Insanity. And I'm nowhere near as good as the people who post their gameplay videos on the character build forums; I still die quite often and pause frequently. It's also unnecessarily tedious if you're more interested in the story versus the combat. And I never knew why Harbinger was so hated until I had to spend lengthy ten minute battles listening to him trash talk.... though that's how I discovered that Harbinger has some very interesting words about whatever companions are with you during the battle.

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Collider wrote...
I've been meaning to try Jack's romance, but if it's completely one sided until the pre-suicide mission romance scene, I don't think it's for me.

I don't think it is (one-sided, I mean). Jack's very confused as to why Shepard even cares, but she does admit to liking him before you reach the final romance scene. Not only that, but you can roleplay Shepard as either a bit paragon or a bit renegade about the whole thing, and it still will feel like a meaningful relationship.

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Well everyone Night is Falling.

I hope everyone just has a wonderful day (or night) as the case may be (I prefer night ..hmmmm wonder why?)

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NN all

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LoL, Night... we'll see about that. But you have a lovely night and sleep well. Thanks for Chapter 11!!

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Kioux wrote...

LoL, Night... we'll see about that. But you have a lovely night and sleep well. Thanks for Chapter 11!!



Glad you liked it...

OK OK going now / I have criminals to catch tonight / need to be at my best.... beside Chapter 12 needs to be reviewed again during my down time. 


Negative contacts Commander.

I think your going to look smashing in purple...

I'm out

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Pacifien wrote...

JaerWolfe wrote...
*snip*I'm on the fence and leaning toward Jack as a romance for ME2. I'm curious about how they play it.

Jack's one of the best romances of any game I've ever played. In my opinion.

JaerWolfe wrote...
In ME3, Kaidan better have biotic capabilities near Samara's. She kicked butt.

I've been curious about how strong Kaidan's biotics are really supposed to be in comparison to other biotics. They're considerable, and both Wrex and Garrus mention the Alliance should have never dropped the L2 implants because the results were impressive. So that tells me that Kaidan is a powerful biotic for a human, but does that make him a powerful biotic compared to an Asari that has honed her own biotic skills? Like, could he go toe to toe with Liara?

I got the impression that Samara's biotics were exceptional even for an asari. I don't think there's anything in the game or codex that backs up that belief, but I figured if you're going to convince an asari to follow you on a suicide mission, might as well get the strongest you can. And based on that suicide mission, I know that Jack's biotic abilities match Samara's.

I'm going to say that Jack's biotics surpass Kaidan's on raw power, but Kaidan is better trained at using his biotics and other military skills. It's the age old argument of who would win in a fight: the one who works on raw instinct and never holds back or the one who is patient and waits for an opening. I'd put my money on the latter, but the fun thing about the former is that crazy cosmic accidents can favor them unexpectedly.

So, okay, that's just a long way of me saying I also believe Kaidan's biotic capabilities are near Samara's. If he's just the first generation of human biotics, I wonder how much further they can take it.


Kaidan could easily beat Liara if they were in a sincere head to head, but it's an easy call. She's young and inexperienced. Even with her whole SB thing.

I can't remember where, but somewhere on my mShep ME1 playthrough someone says something about Kaidan's biotics being as strong as an Asari's.  I'm also curious because BW can play it a couple of ways...Kaidan says in ME1 that he has always held back after Vyrnus (sp)...so how strong is he, really? If he's been holding back, he hasn't reached his full potential. He's never even pushed it the way Jack always had hers pushed. I really hope ME3 explores this at least a little. I plan on it. Actually already, have, in my current fic.

Jack vs Kaidan...depends. To the death...Kaidan wins. Experience, cool vs hothead, take your pick. He can outthink her, he wins. Jack's power is probably stronger than his, but not by much. If its sparring...K's a gentleman, even w/Jack. He'd look at it as what can he learn from Jack's abilities rather than 'I must win at any cost' which is where Jack would come from.