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[Ecael]

fortunesque wrote...

Kaidan does not expel flatulence.

He expels biotics.

It's a fact.

[stephee]

Ecael wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Kaidan does not expel flatulence.

He expels biotics.

It's a fact.

no wonder Shepard Stands in front of him in an elevator

[legbamel]

Ecael wrote...

fortunesque wrote...
[pic snip]

Kaidan does not expel flatulence.

He expels biotics.

It's a fact.

What, like a mighty wind?

[Ecael]

legbamel wrote...

Ecael wrote...

fortunesque wrote...
[pic snip]

Kaidan does not expel flatulence.

He expels biotics.

It's a fact.

What, like a mighty wind?

He is the original Biotic God.

Niftu Cal is just a wannabe.

[Sialater]

If you want to take a break from wind jokes... A Paragon of Virtue has been updated.

Modifié par Sialater, 28 mai 2010 - 01:34 .

[legbamel]

stephee wrote...

Ecael wrote...

fortunesque wrote...
[snippy snippy]

Kaidan does not expel flatulence.

He expels biotics.

It's a fact.

no wonder Shepard Stands in front of him in an elevator

Hopefully Kaidan would be thoughtful enough to use barrier to contain his...biotics in an elevator.  Well, as long as he's got a breather helmet on his head.

[fortunesque]

We are strange tonight. I can just see it now.



*Ash thread/random browser steps into Kaidan thread*



"Dude... do women really talk about farts this much?"

[Sialater]

Yes, yes we do.

[JaerWolfe]

Lellandra wrote...



I agree with all of it up to the naive part.



I believe Jacob is very practical. He wants to do good so he goes to the place he believes he can help the most. He knows he can't change the Allliance redtape so he moves on. Maybe he thinks he can keep an eye on Cerberus, at least on the cell he's in. He's very honest and open with you from the beggining, a contrast from Miranda that's a **** and guarded waiting for you to prove yourself.



Now the end of the romance was completely botched with the prize line. Also the way they had your Shepard talking to him from the start.



My renegade Shep romanced him after Horizon and if I have the brains I'll write about it one day to see if I can make sense of it all.



Kaidan still my favorite of course. {smilie}

I never got a practical vibe from Jacob, so I'm curious as to where that is coming from. I can see Kaidan as very practical, methodical as well. He thinks about things and works his corners. Jacob always stuck me as more of a 'I'll do this and hope to heck it works.'

I don't think he joined Cerberus to watch them because he's just not that capable. Look at what happened under his watch on the Cerberus base Shepard woke up on. Everyone died but three people.

He's too close minded...you get that from his reaction to the aliens brought on board the Normandy. Where Kaidan is accepting and welcoming of the aliens Shepard brings on board in ME1...including Wrex the Krogan Mercenary, Jacob is almost the exact opposite and has something negative to say about most of them. But he's honest in telling Shepard how he feels about them.

[sagefic]

wow. i got home from work at a weird point in the thread. *catches up to date with the fart topic*

eh...yeah. 

alrighty.....



using it again for your sake, jho.

[Elessara]

I don't think Jacob is naive exactly. He knows Cerberus has done bad things - he even mentions it. He just seems to think that as long as Cerberus doesn't make HIM do bad things then it's all ok - even if other people in Cerberus are off doing bad things. Kaidan on the other hand would never agree to that.

[Pacifien]

JaerWolfe wrote...
I never got a practical vibe from Jacob, so I'm curious as to where that is coming from. I can see Kaidan as very practical, methodical as well. He thinks about things and works his corners. Jacob always stuck me as more of a 'I'll do this and hope to heck it works.'

I think Jacob is more of a realist, which I think often gets confused with being practical. As opposed to Kaidan who I think is far more practical than Jacob, but a lot more of an idealist.

It's interesting how readily they're dismissed as being the same when I can't think of two more different outlooks on how to do things. I suppose the one thing the two men do have in common is that they both don't care to dwell on drama. But while Kaidan is pretty good about not creating drama as well, I think Jacob still has a brash, young attitude where he inadvertently creates drama.

[Lellandra]

JaerWolfe wrote...

I never got a practical vibe from Jacob, so I'm curious as to where that is coming from. I can see Kaidan as very practical, methodical as well. He thinks about things and works his corners. Jacob always stuck me as more of a 'I'll do this and hope to heck it works.'
I don't think he joined Cerberus to watch them because he's just not that capable. Look at what happened under his watch on the Cerberus base Shepard woke up on. Everyone died but three people.
He's too close minded...you get that from his reaction to the aliens brought on board the Normandy. Where Kaidan is accepting and welcoming of the aliens Shepard brings on board in ME1...including Wrex the Krogan Mercenary, Jacob is almost the exact opposite and has something negative to say about most of them. But he's honest in telling Shepard how he feels about them.

I was putting the baby to sleep. She was fighting tonight!

Kaidan for me is the ultimate over thinker. He has to see every side in the situation before he makes a decision. For me that's not being practical.

About the Cerberus base, I don't think he could have done much against inside job. Keeping an eye out was referring more to TIM's antics.

I agree with the alien prejudice part, but that does not interfere with his practicality. I guess he can be a practical bigot.

When he's dealing with his father's death he quickly dismisses Shepard's attempt to help him cope. In his mind what's done is done and all there is left to do is move forward, not talk and dwell on it.

Let me see if I can find the other conversation I'm thinking about. I don't remember all the details.

[Lellandra]

By the way, my argument is in no way trying to prove Kaidan and Jacob are the same.

They are completely different characters with completely different backgrounds.

[JaerWolfe]

Pacifien wrote...

JaerWolfe wrote...
I never got a practical vibe from Jacob, so I'm curious as to where that is coming from. I can see Kaidan as very practical, methodical as well. He thinks about things and works his corners. Jacob always stuck me as more of a 'I'll do this and hope to heck it works.'

I think Jacob is more of a realist, which I think often gets confused with being practical. As opposed to Kaidan who I think is far more practical than Jacob, but a lot more of an idealist.

It's interesting how readily they're dismissed as being the same when I can't think of two more different outlooks on how to do things. I suppose the one thing the two men do have in common is that they both don't care to dwell on drama. But while Kaidan is pretty good about not creating drama as well, I think Jacob still has a brash, young attitude where he inadvertently creates drama.

I agree with both the realist and more especially the 'brash, young attitude'. I have no idea what the age comparison is between Kaidan and Jacob, but Jacob definitely strikes me as younger. Not so much immature as he still has a lot of growing left to do. That's why I find Jack's description of him so apt. Jacob doesn't know who he is.

I can't see Jacob being a good leader, either, more of a lone gun than anything else. But I can see Kaidan as a leader and as a team player and Horizon shows him on his own.

Those that dismiss the two as being the same haven't bothered to get to know either character well.

[fortunesque]

Pacifien wrote...



It's interesting how readily they're dismissed as being the same when I can't think of two more different outlooks on how to do things. I suppose the one thing the two men do have in common is that they both don't care to dwell on drama. But while Kaidan is pretty good about not creating drama as well, I think Jacob still has a brash, young attitude where he inadvertently creates drama.

I agree and I find this difference interesting. In some ways, Jacob more closely resembles Ash in that he'll say what he wants when he wants to say it. This isn't to say that he doesn't mean well; he's just out of line often. Whether or not this stems from Jacob's age or if it's his nature to speak out is another matter entirely.

According to the ME2 site, Jacob is 29 and Kaidan is 35. Miranda is 35 as well.

There are some interesting similarities between Miranda and Kaidan. They're very task-oriented people and they like to keep a tight rein on their self control. And neither of them want to be a project and would prefer to take care of their own problems rather than getting help.

[Nightodie]

Good Morning All the Night Crew is back online....

fortunesque wrote...



We are strange tonight. I can just see it now.

*Ash thread/random browser steps into Kaidan thread*

"Dude... do women really talk about farts this much?"

Sia: Yes, yes we do.


Kaidan fans ridding the galaxy from Cerberus flatulance for 175 years!!!!

Modifié par Nightodie, 28 mai 2010 - 03:41 .

[Nightodie]

fortunesque wrote...

Pacifien wrote...



It's interesting how readily they're dismissed as being the same when I can't think of two more different outlooks on how to do things. I suppose the one thing the two men do have in common is that they both don't care to dwell on drama. But while Kaidan is pretty good about not creating drama as well, I think Jacob still has a brash, young attitude where he inadvertently creates drama.

I agree and I find this difference interesting. In some ways, Jacob more closely resembles Ash in that he'll say what he wants when he wants to say it. This isn't to say that he doesn't mean well; he's just out of line often. Whether or not this stems from Jacob's age or if it's his nature to speak out is another matter entirely.

According to the ME2 site, Jacob is 29 and Kaidan is 35. Miranda is 35 as well.

There are some interesting similarities between Miranda and Kaidan. They're very task-oriented people and they like to keep a tight rein on their self control. And neither of them want to be a project and would prefer to take care of their own problems rather than getting help.

Kaidan says he's 32 in ME 32 + 2 = 34 not 35 - WUWT

Modifié par Nightodie, 28 mai 2010 - 03:44 .

[fortunesque]

Nightodie wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Pacifien wrote...



It's interesting how readily they're dismissed as being the same when I can't think of two more different outlooks on how to do things. I suppose the one thing the two men do have in common is that they both don't care to dwell on drama. But while Kaidan is pretty good about not creating drama as well, I think Jacob still has a brash, young attitude where he inadvertently creates drama.

I agree and I find this difference interesting. In some ways, Jacob more closely resembles Ash in that he'll say what he wants when he wants to say it. This isn't to say that he doesn't mean well; he's just out of line often. Whether or not this stems from Jacob's age or if it's his nature to speak out is another matter entirely.

According to the ME2 site, Jacob is 29 and Kaidan is 35. Miranda is 35 as well.

There are some interesting similarities between Miranda and Kaidan. They're very task-oriented people and they like to keep a tight rein on their self control. And neither of them want to be a project and would prefer to take care of their own problems rather than getting help.

Kaidan says he's 32 in ME 32 + 2 = 34 not 35 - WUWT

Depends on the month he was born in and if he had a birthday on the SR-1. It could be possible.

[TheAzureVanguard]

Kaiden is the BEST

[JaerWolfe]

Lellandra wrote...

JaerWolfe wrote...
snip

I was putting the baby to sleep. She was fighting tonight!

Kaidan for me is the ultimate over thinker. He has to see every side in the situation before he makes a decision. For me that's not being practical.

About the Cerberus base, I don't think he could have done much against inside job. Keeping an eye out was referring more to TIM's antics.

I agree with the alien prejudice part, but that does not interfere with his practicality. I guess he can be a practical bigot.

When he's dealing with his father's death he quickly dismisses Shepard's attempt to help him cope. In his mind what's done is done and all there is left to do is move forward, not talk and dwell on it.

Let me see if I can find the other conversation I'm thinking about. I don't remember all the details.

For me, over thinking is better than a rash judgment any day, but that's opinion and I don't expect everyone to feel the same way.

For me Jacob's biggest failure on the Cerberus base was the loss of life. There should have been plans in place, security of any kind who knew how to deal with mechs. It was a failure of intelligence gathering in detecting Wilson's obvious attitude problem (there were frickin' data pads everywhere and unincrypted audio files, how hard could it be?) and it was a failure of adequate security forces. I don't care that his priority was Shepard...I find it very odd that for an organization that wants humanity to win they have no problem disposing of humans like so much used tissue. But Jacob was willing to sacrifice the many for the one. Kaidan would not justify the means to get to that end. He would have severe issues allowing Shepard to try and justify the same thing and I have only respect for someone who will raise that kind of question in a military environment.

The reaction to his father's death (I killed that jerk, too) that's part of what strikes me as his being young because I don't think it's his father's death his refusing to react to. In his mind his father has been dead for years. It's what his father did before he died that Jacob is claiming is done and he shouldn't dwell on. That offended me because there is an implication, intended or not, that his father's victims should do the same.

[sagefic]

fortunesque wrote...

Nightodie wrote...

*snip*

Kaidan says he's 32 in ME 32 + 2 = 34 not 35 - WUWT

Depends on the month he was born in and if he had a birthday on the SR-1. It could be possible.

this threw me, too, but i think the idea was that ME1 took about a year to complete the mission. he was 32 to start (shep was what? 29? 30?) - 1 year to stop saren + the three months searching for geth puts him at 33. shep is gone for 2 years, when they meet up again in ME2, he's 35. which makes shep 32/33 during me2, possibly 33/34 by the end of it.

i think that's right. feel free to correct my math.

[fortunesque]

sagequeen wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Nightodie wrote...

*snip*

Kaidan says he's 32 in ME 32 + 2 = 34 not 35 - WUWT

Depends on the month he was born in and if he had a birthday on the SR-1. It could be possible.

this threw me, too, but i think the idea was that ME1 took about a year to complete the mission. he was 32 to start (shep was what? 29? 30?) - 1 year to stop saren + the three months searching for geth puts him at 33. shep is gone for 2 years, when they meet up again in ME2, he's 35. which makes shep 32/33 during me2, possibly 33/34 by the end of it.

i think that's right. feel free to correct my math.

You're right. And Shepard is 29 at the start of ME1.

Creepy fact: Zaeed is 4 years older than Kaidan according to the site

[Collider]

Zaeed definitely looks older than he actually is.