Kaidan Alenko Support Thread Part 2
#41901
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 09:32
#41902
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 09:32
Jhosephine wrote...
lol silly posters..gotta love em. Disturbing thing is, if you look at ME2 that whole boob touching thing is in like every conversation. Shepard touches others and they touch her, it's madness!
In the future, people are very friendly?
#41903
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 09:36
FireEye wrote...
Jhosephine wrote...
lol silly posters..gotta love em. Disturbing thing is, if you look at ME2 that whole boob touching thing is in like every conversation. Shepard touches others and they touch her, it's madness!
In the future, people are very friendly?
I don't know if I would call someone touching my boob during conversation friendly though
#41904
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 09:37
Jhosephine wrote...
FireEye wrote...
Jhosephine wrote...
lol silly posters..gotta love em. Disturbing thing is, if you look at ME2 that whole boob touching thing is in like every conversation. Shepard touches others and they touch her, it's madness!
In the future, people are very friendly?
I don't know if I would call someone touching my boob during conversation friendly though![]()
If it was Kaidan you will.
#41905
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 09:46
UrbanPhoenix wrote...
If it was Kaidan you will.
Well if him touching your boob is his way of being friendly, by all means lol
#41906
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 09:48
#41907
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 09:51
@Ecael: staring contest? My coffee just got sweeter.
@J4N3_M3: FShep is definitely an example of a strong woman, but in ME2 she was just stripped from the rests of her femininity.
Take other examples to compare: Deunan Knute was a master commando with strong sense of justice, but she could be a loving partner and shed tears for innocents.
Major Kusanagi would be the most skilled hacker and cyborg, but that didn't stopped her from wearing uniform skirts and sexy lingerie.
Ripley could scream when her honor as a woman was about to be broken.
ME2 FShep is showing her weird colors only around LI's, and wears a dress because someone forced her to. I'm wondering why we have been given an option to wear makeup on FemSheps. For the rest of the game, she's just a different skin for Sheploo, nothing more, unless we turn our imagination on.
I'm making a strange video montage from Afterlife just to see my Fshep in "the" asari outfit. To show how poorly she looks around those pole dancers
(And yes, I do think that both FShep and Deunan look better in uniforms than cyvil clothes. Then again, I'm a weak character looking for a strong example to go after)
Modifié par AkodoRyu, 24 juin 2010 - 09:58 .
#41908
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 09:52
FireEye wrote...
I think it's less a matter of us putting ourselves in Shepard's shoes,
oh i wasn't refering to US as the players in anyway...sorry if that came across the wrong way. I meant the people around Shepard in the game
I was just trying to answer the questions from my PoV.
#41909
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 10:00
J4N3_M3 wrote...
FireEye wrote...
I think it's less a matter of us putting ourselves in Shepard's shoes,
oh i wasn't refering to US as the players in anyway...sorry if that came across the wrong way. I meant the people around Shepard in the gamelike Kaidan and Anderson for example. They saw her with Cerberus and were like WTF? While people like Joker or the two engineers for example rather LEFT the Alliance to work with Cerberus to actually DO something instead of being stuck at some lame ass job that did nothing against the collector's threat at all. So on this PERSONAL level i really don't understand why people IN the game don't trust Shepard more. I mean, of course she comes back and is WITH Cerberus. Of course people are alarmed. BUT why is everyone acting like in medieval times? I was sometimes expecting them pointing their fingers going WITCH WITCH, ya know? I'd expected some more TALK here. And yeah , I know it's a BW thing lol.
I was just trying to answer the questions from my PoV.
Aahh. Okay, I see where you're coming from. And agree completely. Legitimate question that.
Unfortunately, if you could convince the Alliance (come on, man, Hackett emailed me and told me to go pick up dog tags! You guys trust Hackett, right?) that you were still you, you could legitimately leave Cerberus, and the entire game would unravel. I suspect that TIM is supposed to be pulling strings behind the curtain to ensure that does not happen, but it is still annoying.
#41910
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 10:03
AkodoRyu wrote...
@J4N3_M3: FShep is definitely an example of a strong woman, but in ME2 she was just stripped from the rests of her femininity.
Take other examples to compare: Deunan Knute was a master commando with strong sense of justice, but she could be a loving partner and shed tears for innocents.
Major Kusanagi would be the most skilled hacker and cyborg, but that didn't stopped her from wearing uniform skirts and sexy lingerie.
Ripley could scream when her honor as a woman was about to be broken.
ME2 FShep is showing her weird colors only around LI's, and wears a dress because someone forced her to. I'm wondering why we have been given an option to wear makeup on FemSheps. For the rest of the game, she's just a different skin for Sheploo, nothing more, unless we turn our imagination on.
I'm making a strange video montage from Afterlife just to see my Fshep in "the" asari outfit. To show how poorly she looks around those pole dancers
I saw the Asari outfit and I think it even looks horrible on the Asari *coughs* but thats just my opinion
Anyway, I really think, I didn't get most of my point across in the post I made earlier. That's what happens when I try to read through like 10 pages while posting my reply in another tab. Sorry for that.
Also, I really don't know how far along I can consider my Femshep in ME2. Been playing the game itself for 20+ hours I think. And as you can see from my posts, I am going from hot to cold to hot to cold with everything. It is really strange. When I talked to Jacob the first two times, I liked it. Then I went for the flirting and was grossed out. Same happened with Garrus. I would never talk to a guy like that unless it's some dude I pick up in a bar for a one night stand and I won't ever be seeing him again. So that's just like WEIRD!
Anyway, I still think that my FemShep is female enough for my taste.....still! I dont know how or IF that will change throughout the game.
#41911
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 10:20
I never really got the "she's acting like a man!" comments in the first place..
She's not scracthing her belly and making belching noises. She seems rather neutral. Not super manly and not mega girly.
My Shepard is just... Shepard.
What a manly man rumored looking Shadow Broker!
Modifié par Batteries, 24 juin 2010 - 10:23 .
#41912
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 10:28

Kaidan is also manly, yes?
#41913
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 10:32
FireEye wrote...
Kaidan is also manly, yes?
Kaidan is always manly.
But sometimes I think I have too much of a neutral view of life.
#41914
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 10:34
#41915
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 10:41
Batteries wrote...
FireEye wrote...
Kaidan is also manly, yes?
Kaidan is always manly.
But sometimes I think I have too much of a neutral view of life.
he is indeed always manly and if you do then oh well, i do too lol
#41916
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 11:21
#41917
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 11:22
#41918
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 11:29
sagequeen wrote...
hey, anyone know a good kotor fanfic? read jo's today - enjoyed it a lot! (thanks jo!) made me want to read more of the stuff but there's a lot and i'm afraid of sifting through it endlessly...
edit: nm. it's late here. crashing. gnight!
Sending you lots and lots of links for when you wake up :happy:
#41919
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 11:30
J4N3_M3 wrote...
FireEye wrote...
I think it's less a matter of us putting ourselves in Shepard's shoes,
oh i wasn't refering to US as the players in anyway...sorry if that came across the wrong way. I meant the people around Shepard in the gamelike Kaidan and Anderson for example. They saw her with Cerberus and were like WTF? While people like Joker or the two engineers for example rather LEFT the Alliance to work with Cerberus to actually DO something instead of being stuck at some lame ass job that did nothing against the collector's threat at all. So on this PERSONAL level i really don't understand why people IN the game don't trust Shepard more. I mean, of course she comes back and is WITH Cerberus. Of course people are alarmed. BUT why is everyone acting like in medieval times? I was sometimes expecting them pointing their fingers going WITCH WITCH, ya know? I'd expected some more TALK here. And yeah , I know it's a BW thing lol.
I was just trying to answer the questions from my PoV.
I still feel like the people in the game who don't trust Shepard right away are correct in being cautious, while Joker, Chakwas, Tali and Garrus rush into joining an evil organization with seemingly little forethought.
There is no guarantee in the game that Shepard isn't mind controlled, a clone, or has simply become EVIL. My paragon character would never work with Cerberus willingly, and it kind of disgusts me that there is so much hand waving of their actions, even by characters like Jack.
The Council says that they won't get involved because this is a human concern. The Systems Alliance is the human government. It makes NO SENSE that Shepard is unable to go to leaders of the Alliance military after being shot down by the Council, to at least *try* to work with people who don't actively lie to her and send her into traps.
There are some major writing fails in the game, especially concerning Shepard's feelings about Cerberus. It really annoys me, as you can see.
#41920
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 11:48
Reading your fic now Jo, and I'd love a copy of those links as well.Joisan wrote...
sagequeen wrote...
hey, anyone know a good kotor fanfic? read jo's today - enjoyed it a lot! (thanks jo!) made me want to read more of the stuff but there's a lot and i'm afraid of sifting through it endlessly...
edit: nm. it's late here. crashing. gnight!
Sending you lots and lots of links for when you wake up :happy:
#41921
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 11:58
Shenzi wrote...
Reading your fic now Jo, and I'd love a copy of those links as well.Joisan wrote...
sagequeen wrote...
hey, anyone know a good kotor fanfic? read jo's today - enjoyed it a lot! (thanks jo!) made me want to read more of the stuff but there's a lot and i'm afraid of sifting through it endlessly...
edit: nm. it's late here. crashing. gnight!
Sending you lots and lots of links for when you wake up :happy:
Your wish=my command. I'm heading off to breakfast and a long day in the lab but feel free (Sage too if you're around) to pass those on to any other interested parties.
#41922
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 12:22
this isn´t my day
Wow, so much happend here again... It will take me a while to catch up :-)
@ Teen, I agree with what you said about Shepard and I was thinking about that mind controlled thing, too. But then again, Miranda told Shepard, that she wanted to implate a mind control chip, but wasn´t allowed bei TIM, because he feared, that could change Shepard´s personality...
My femshep doesn´t trust anyone, besides her crew (at least after they finished together the suicide mission) And the alliance... Well, that I was asking myself, too. Why couldn´t Shepard just talk to them, that makes no sense... They all leave her pretty much alone. Okay, she is a Spectre, but it didn´t really mean a thing...
I hated it, when Anderson didn´t want to tell femshep about Kaidan. And why didn´t get Anderson with Kaidan in contact, after he had met Shepard? I mean my Shepard had seen Anderson, before she had to go to Horizon...
Arrrg! I stop now, before I´m writing a novel here,,, Sorry, I´m just in a bad mood...
#41923
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 12:25
Well, me too. Because it's comfortable. But that's the reason why I consider her just as other option of appearance for Sheploo. There are of course some differences like Harkin's reaction, this very subtle thing that ME2 lacks of.J4N3_M3 wrote...
Also, I don't see a difference in her behaviour yet compared to how she behaved in ME1. She still sits the way she used to sit in ME1. Crossing her legs the way she does, not like other women do. I do that too.
Still, I love the glare she gives to Nasaana's body on the desk or the way she says "it's not your damned buissness". Lack of some interaction with squaddies like Kaidan makes ME1 Shep and ME2 Shep different for me: I'm willing to believe she is capable of controlling herself to the point she won't have any breakdown, even tolerate Cerberus as a necessary evil.
J4N3_M3 wrote...
She would totally be my type if I was into girls.
Hah, if someone will ever ask me what kind of women I like, I'll definitely say "like Shepard. Becuse she is strong, beautiful and kicks asses". But "that" place in my heart is taken by Shirow's Motoko.
There's something I've been wondering since I knew I was kinda different from my classmates. I could give them the glare of dissaproval while they were painting nails on breaks, yet I'm having problem with presenting myself in public when they are succeeding in their work, life, anything. Of course that's just a matter of my character and a subject for another discussion.
J4N3_M3 wrote...
And like batt said, she's not acting like a man, yet acting too much like a woman would make me as the player not take her seriously at all.
That's why I like to believe that the ME world has no (typical for our world) discrimination against women. Thou I love military stuff and approve women fighting for their countries as men do, I know they still have to prove themselves, some standarts are lowered for them, because our bodies aren't as capable as men's, sometimes women work twice as hard as guys to prove themselves. I like to think we have feminine dress uniforms, because military wants us to represent it too - correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe genetic enhanecement equate both men and women in the Alliance, I don't know if Codex contains this type of info. But that shouldn't completely shut down some of our instincts. "Hey, we still have boobs and nice asses, you can tell even by looking at our armors!".
I don't say I want Shepard suddenly jump into a moulin rouge type of stuff
#41924
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 12:50
AkodoRyu wrote...
Well, me too. Because it's comfortable. But that's the reason why I consider her just as other option of appearance for Sheploo.
although i may sound a bit dumb here but what is sheploo?
AkodoRyu wrote...
I don't say I want Shepard suddenly jump into a moulin rouge type of stuffJust that she could use some charm in fact, not only because we, fans, see things we want to see.
I think I know what you mean. But maybe I still fail to see where she's lacking the charm. Then agan, like I said, I'm still the ME noob so bare with me....
#41925
Posté 24 juin 2010 - 12:58
Shep-loo XD
http://ui23.gamespot...66/ewwwtf_2.jpg




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