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@Batteries: check the latest posts in the Kaidan thread in the group.

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I like Kaidan a lot more than Carth. They have the same voice actor but they are still differently voiced. Can't really describe the difference right now without having a reference. I didn't really like Carth's trust issues. I'm glad that Kaidan didn't any of those. I do wish that Kaidan would have a friendship with M!Shepard though. Sad that he didn't. Although he kind of treats M!Shepard as a former friend on Horizon.

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Batteries wrote...

I think I've read "OMG NO IT'S CARTH11!!" about 8 different times by now. x.x
I guess it's a good thing I played many years ago and couldn't remember voices by the time I started playing ME, if it had that much of an impact.
Then again, I do like Carth, so I guess it wouldn't of been much of an issue for me.


i haven't played kotor in over five years so the kaidan carth comparison baffles me. 

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Honestly, I think they were a bit afraid of making things sound gay or something with an mShep. I do like their little banter about Liara; I wished that there was more of it.



There are subtle differences in how he treats the different gendered Shepards. Out of a romance, he appears to be more relaxed with Shepard and is able to communicate better. With a romance, you can tell that he is a little skittish around femShep because he's so smitten.



Again, it's a very subtle difference I noticed and it generally takes place in the first few sentences that you talk with him.

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A lot of people seemed to like him more playing as a female rather a male, romance or no.

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Not sure if this is true, but apparently he opens to F!Shepard more even without the romance.



I would have liked more "bro" dialog with Kaidan as M!Shepard, but it's too late for that. Hopefully ME3 will have something like that.

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Huh. I didn't know that. Then again, I've never played a fShep that hasn't romanced him XD

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Collider wrote...

Not sure if this is true, but apparently he opens to F!Shepard more even without the romance.

I would have liked more "bro" dialog with Kaidan as M!Shepard, but it's too late for that. Hopefully ME3 will have something like that.


It's the same reason why most of the Carth haters are men.  You miss him opening up to and trusting Revan unless you romance him as a female.

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He does open up to FShep more than MShep overall. There's more dialogue.
Ex. Right after Eden Prime and you wake up, you can only speak to Kaidan in an actual cutscene dialogue if you are a female. As male, you just click on him and he says "Glad to see you're ok Shepard."

MShep: You're a romantic then, Kaidan?
Kaidan: Yeah I read a lot of those books growing up..

^I think most of these manly man's Gaydars would be going off.

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Ah, you're right Batteries. I think you do get to talk to Ashley after Eden Prime as both MShep and FShep, correct? Strange they disallowed you to talk to Kaidan as MShep.



It's the same reason why most of the Carth haters are men. You miss him opening up to and trusting Revan unless you romance him as a female.


Good point.

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Lol well I think the give m!shep and f!shep their human counterparts more dialogue because they know if you are romancing them you are more than likely to save them on Virmire.



I'm sorry but Brian is letting Ashley die.... I can't kill Kaidan he's too good looking. Plus Bri is a renegade in my me1 playyhrough with him...soooo yea

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Kaidan just died(passed out, whatever) on Therum in a very awkward position o_O

"Thought that one had my name on it!"

That is a very awkward thing to also say after you stand back up after being knocked out xD
At least that is what I'm sure he said.

Modifié par Batteries, 30 juin 2010 - 06:27 .


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How'd he die?

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It's the same with Jack in ME2. She doesn't open up to FemShep but to a MaleShep. That's what I didn't really like. I wish, they would treat that equally. I mean, not only in a homosexual way.....Personally I think it is VERY discriminating that FemSheps GET to romance FEMALE characters while MaleSheps HAVE to romance female characters and don't get the chance of romancing a male character at all. Of course, someone could argue that at least lesbian relationships are treated equally and not discriminated but please.....in the end it's all about hot-lesbian-make-out....something most guys dream of. Homosexual relationships after all are not treated equally in the ME universe and I think that's kinda sad.

Besides that, I wish they would treat all dialogues equally, so that if you don't go for the upper or lower option (romance or no romance) you would at least get into some sort of friendship with the other characters. After turning down EVERY romance option in ME2, the entire dialogue stuff got more than boring and it was all about shooting and stuff. For that, I could go back to CS:S or CoD. So for ME3, I wish they change that. Yah, I know, wishful thinking, but hey, one can still hope, no?

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How'd he die?


Not "die", but just lost all his health.
He was on his back with his back arched up, legs crossed, one arm bent behind his back and one sticking up into the air. Creepy.

@Jane... I think I remember reading somewhere that "more RPG elements are coming back into ME3," but I wouldn't be able to grab a link or say who said that.
I do like the ME2 Combat system more than ME1, personally. I doubt they're going to change it either.

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www.joystiq.com/2010/03/13/bioware-designer-talks-about-goals-for-mass-effect-3/

Modifié par Batteries, 30 juin 2010 - 06:50 .


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Batteries wrote...

@Jane... I think I remember reading somewhere that "more RPG elements are coming back into ME3," but I wouldn't be able to grab a link or say who said that.
I do like the ME2 Combat system more than ME1, personally. I doubt they're going to change it either.


oh don't get me wrong....i liked the combat system more than Me1 as well. but after a mission I really had NO ONE to talk to. Everyone turned their backs on me. And that REALLY sucked hamster testicles! 

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Ok Hamster?



I think that is one for the books!

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Nightodie wrote...

Ok Hamster?

I think that is one for the books!


xD I didn't want to find out if balls gets censored or not. rofl....

Edit: well, obviously, it doesn't! :D

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J4N3_M3 wrote...

It's the same with Jack in ME2. She doesn't open up to FemShep but to a MaleShep. That's what I didn't really like. I wish, they would treat that equally. I mean, not only in a homosexual way.....Personally I think it is VERY discriminating that FemSheps GET to romance FEMALE characters while MaleSheps HAVE to romance female characters and don't get the chance of romancing a male character at all. Of course, someone could argue that at least lesbian relationships are treated equally and not discriminated but please.....in the end it's all about hot-lesbian-make-out....something most guys dream of. Homosexual relationships after all are not treated equally in the ME universe and I think that's kinda sad.
Besides that, I wish they would treat all dialogues equally, so that if you don't go for the upper or lower option (romance or no romance) you would at least get into some sort of friendship with the other characters. After turning down EVERY romance option in ME2, the entire dialogue stuff got more than boring and it was all about shooting and stuff. For that, I could go back to CS:S or CoD. So for ME3, I wish they change that. Yah, I know, wishful thinking, but hey, one can still hope, no?


Yes, recuiting Garrus, talking to him after I got him, conversation about his loyalty mission and then a conversation after followed by calibrations after that if you didn't romance was rather lame concidering the history.
But to be fair, out of all the characters I think he had the most dialogue outside the Normandy.
The ending dialogue with Jack as a FemShep felt satifying enough for myself concidering her personality. She's an awesome character.

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Batteries wrote...

J4N3_M3 wrote...

It's the same with Jack in ME2. She doesn't open up to FemShep but to a MaleShep. That's what I didn't really like. I wish, they would treat that equally. I mean, not only in a homosexual way.....Personally I think it is VERY discriminating that FemSheps GET to romance FEMALE characters while MaleSheps HAVE to romance female characters and don't get the chance of romancing a male character at all. Of course, someone could argue that at least lesbian relationships are treated equally and not discriminated but please.....in the end it's all about hot-lesbian-make-out....something most guys dream of. Homosexual relationships after all are not treated equally in the ME universe and I think that's kinda sad.
Besides that, I wish they would treat all dialogues equally, so that if you don't go for the upper or lower option (romance or no romance) you would at least get into some sort of friendship with the other characters. After turning down EVERY romance option in ME2, the entire dialogue stuff got more than boring and it was all about shooting and stuff. For that, I could go back to CS:S or CoD. So for ME3, I wish they change that. Yah, I know, wishful thinking, but hey, one can still hope, no?


Yes, recuiting Garrus, talking to him after I got him, conversation about his loyalty mission and then a conversation after followed by calibrations after that if you didn't romance was rather lame concidering the history.
But to be fair, out of all the characters I think he had the most dialogue outside the Normandy.
The ending dialogue with Jack as a FemShep felt satifying enough for myself concidering her personality. She's an awesome character.


I didn't have ANY ending dialogue with Jack :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

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I got a lot of talk from tali & Jack on my first playthrough, but not my second, now I wonder if it was a glitch, tali did offer to share suit air with me, I was playing a femshep

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Nightodie wrote...

I got a lot of talk from tali & Jack on my first playthrough, but not my second, now I wonder if it was a glitch, tali did offer to share suit air with me, I was playing a femshep


that she did with me as well. but jack eventually got to a point where she told me that I only want to make out with her.

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Morning again ;-)



wow... actually I wanted to stay up earlier, but somehow I fell back to sleep... ;-)

... Who cares... I don´t need to go to work:-)

And now I need my strong mug with coffee and read some ff. Since I´m up to date I think I´ll read about Jo´s Carth and maybe some Drama by Phoenix ;-) I doubt that I´ll write a own story, because I don´t think I´ll be good... So I rather love to read them ... I keep on trying drawing and see how this will develop ;-)

@ Night: Morning, how are you?

Uff. I´m on Zhu´s Hope (in case I spelled it wrong, blame it on the fact I haven´t had coffee yet) and never thaught that Krogans are so hard to kill, at least the wearen´t on casual :( They gave me a hard time and I stopped counting the times I died... But in the end I got them... *giggles*

@ Jane, Morning :-) I feel similar about what you were writing.

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Oh, I liked the combat system after I got used to it... ;-), but I really hope and we really get more rpg moments in ME3 :-)

But the most important thing about ME3 is to get Kaidan back *sighs*

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good morning aslan :) no renovating today?
I'm at work and i think my motivation ran off with a huge glass of booze :D
but at least it's wednesday so the weekend is near!

Edit: just found an accident screenie that made me LOL

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M!Shepard doesn't get much better if you don't romance Jack. You're still told to go away. You need to say "no" to Jack twice, or she'll tell you to "**** off" if you don't romance her.

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J4N3_M3 wrote...

good morning aslan :) no renovating today?
I'm at work and i think my motivation ran off with a huge glass of booze :D
but at least it's wednesday so the weekend is near!

Edit: just found an accident screenie that made me LOL

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I like this one. The pose he's in is nice. =]
 Do you have a less pixelated version?