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BECC4 wrote...

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Because men like to pretend they're being sly or sneaky? :ph34r: 


Haha, so true, bless their little cotton socks, tell me as a man do you actually realise that most of the time we know exactly what you're doing?


You do?!

:?:blink::unsure: *hides the cannon, the flags, and the circus clown*

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fortunesque wrote...


By their definintion of a successful character, Lillith is successful as well.

She incites our wrath, after all. :devil:


And the wrath of one of the women over at Bioware who, no doubt, animated turning Lilith into a smoothie ;)

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Of course it all adds to the risk, ask any woman who's ever fallen for a badboy, men are generally infuriating partly because we can't stay away from them (or is that just me Image IPB).


Where does that leave the cute & manipulative men? :crying:


Looks like I'm gonna have to go start another fight to get the girl <_<

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BECC4 wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

BECC4 wrote...

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BECC4 wrote...

Resulting in, at best a slap, worst well lets just say most men wouldn't try it twice 


Depends on the girl, with some at best it'd turn into a good night, at worst I'll be looking around the lawn for my... :unsure:


I suppose it does at that, but what's wrong with just asking, it's not like she's not gonna notice! Image IPB

Even Kaidan would get a smack for trying something like that


With those eyes, would he?

But hey, its only common politeness to at least ask before plugging away as it where. Otherwise, methinks a kinfe and a certain part of the male form will get to meet in a justifyable way.


Even Kaidan, there are some lines that no man may cross without punishment, that is one of them.


Hence the knife. And the meeting of said man form and said knife. Or worse.

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Jhosephine wrote...

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Perhaps not, but nonetheless it is clear that he was intended to, seeing as how kaiden could not rejoin the normandy.



In all seriousness, there is now way Jacob's dialogue was written to be a female romance option, no man on this planet could possibly be that dense to think a woman would like that, I refuse to believe there are men truely that clueless!


And yet we're discussing Jacob a whole lot in this thread. According to Bioware that would mean they wrote a succesful character. 

:pinched:


I think we are discussing him because he was not what we wanted. If Kaidan had been a LI this time around with romance dialog and a love scene we'd probably never even mention Jacob. He would have been even more forgettable. 

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Jhosephine wrote...

BECC4 wrote...

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Perhaps not, but nonetheless it is clear that he was intended to, seeing as how kaiden could not rejoin the normandy.



In all seriousness, there is now way Jacob's dialogue was written to be a female romance option, no man on this planet could possibly be that dense to think a woman would like that, I refuse to believe there are men truely that clueless!


And yet we're discussing Jacob a whole lot in this thread. According to Bioware that would mean they wrote a succesful character. 

:pinched:


Only when people bring it up, I can honestly say I couldnt' be arsed to find the time to bash him, or go on a hate campaign because I'm just not that bothered.  I wanna know what drugs Bioware was taking when they wrote his lines, but the character is meh.

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MICHELLE7 wrote...

I think we are discussing him because he was not what we wanted. If Kaidan had been a LI this time around with romance dialog and a love scene we'd probably never even mention Jacob. He would have been even more forgettable. 


Indeed.
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Jake71887 wrote...

BECC4 wrote...
Of course it all adds to the risk, ask any woman who's ever fallen for a badboy, men are generally infuriating partly because we can't stay away from them (or is that just me Image IPB).


Where does that leave the cute & manipulative men? :crying:

Looks like I'm gonna have to go start another fight to get the girl <_<


What about the insane, initially shy types? I...I mean...they don't seem to have much lucky compared to said bad boys (aggronant tossers that they are)

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fortunesque wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

BECC4 wrote...

Shepardybcg wrote...
Perhaps not, but nonetheless it is clear that he was intended to, seeing as how kaiden could not rejoin the normandy.



In all seriousness, there is now way Jacob's dialogue was written to be a female romance option, no man on this planet could possibly be that dense to think a woman would like that, I refuse to believe there are men truely that clueless!


And yet we're discussing Jacob a whole lot in this thread. According to Bioware that would mean they wrote a succesful character. 

:pinched:



By their definintion of a successful character, Lillith is successful as well.

She incites our wrath, after all. :devil:


I thought they said the character had to be both hated and loved to be successful...I don't know of anyone loving Lilith...and no one come in with any bad jokes about Kaidan loving her or I'll cut you.:devil:

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Doug84 wrote...

What about the insane, initially shy types? I...I mean...they don't seem to have much lucky compared to said bad boys (aggronant tossers that they are)


The get institutionalized? :whistle:

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We can see that Kaiden has strong morals on the issue, considering that even shepard's influence could not get him to change his mind on cerberus. Btw I am glad cerberus no longer influences the normandy. It seems as though Jacob was supposed to fill in kaiden's spot considering he is the human male you start with in ME2.


Exactly. I'm glad in a way that Kaidan didn't just drop everything to join Shep and Cerberus, I think that would really have gone against everything he stands for and been so horribly out of character.

I wonder who has more haters now, Kaidan or Jacob? I get the impression that Jacob is pretty much the forgotten character of ME2.


I saw someone call Jacob "an even bigger whiner than Kaidan" and of course they had to add "he reminds me of Carth"...:blink:

But I think most people look at Jacob as "okay", but not cool as a female love interest, and not special because he's not an alien and doesn't have tattoos or badass scars.  Apparently human teammates are cool if they have tattoos and scars.

I couldn't get by the **** tone Shep used with Jacob when asking about him.  That was the killer right there.

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So will I, Michelle... so will I. If anyone comes at me with Kaidan/Lilith, I WILL KILL YOU.



I spent two hours in a fangirl chat room last night seeing people listing off crack pairings they'd found in smut fics. Some of them frightened the people doing the listing.

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Jhosephine wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I think we are discussing him because he was not what we wanted. If Kaidan had been a LI this time around with romance dialog and a love scene we'd probably never even mention Jacob. He would have been even more forgettable. 


Indeed.
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*Sighs happily*
Yep, that's definately what was missing in ME2.

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Shenzi wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

crimsonrhodelia wrote...

Shepardybcg wrote...
We can see that Kaiden has strong morals on the issue, considering that even shepard's influence could not get him to change his mind on cerberus. Btw I am glad cerberus no longer influences the normandy. It seems as though Jacob was supposed to fill in kaiden's spot considering he is the human male you start with in ME2.


Exactly. I'm glad in a way that Kaidan didn't just drop everything to join Shep and Cerberus, I think that would really have gone against everything he stands for and been so horribly out of character.

I wonder who has more haters now, Kaidan or Jacob? I get the impression that Jacob is pretty much the forgotten character of ME2.


I saw someone call Jacob "an even bigger whiner than Kaidan" and of course they had to add "he reminds me of Carth"...:blink:

But I think most people look at Jacob as "okay", but not cool as a female love interest, and not special because he's not an alien and doesn't have tattoos or badass scars.  Apparently human teammates are cool if they have tattoos and scars.

I couldn't get by the **** tone Shep used with Jacob when asking about him.  That was the killer right there.


*snarl*  They were trying to make my Shep sound like a ****.  Even the Renegade girl has that nauseating flirty tone.  For the love of God, BioWare...!!!!

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One thing I find interesting about Jacob is that everyone says that he has his stuff together and is like Kaidan.



I find the opposite to be true. He joined Cerberus because he agrees with their current direction. He left the Alliance because it had changed. He'll leave Cerberus if they change directions.



Yeah, he's got convictions, but he changes sides way too much. I think he's a bit naive and confused about the general direction of his life. IMO, Jacob desperately needs a mentor.



This doesn't mean I hate the guy at all. It simply means that I find it very hard to have him as a believable romance.

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Jhosephine wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I think we are discussing him because he was not what we wanted. If Kaidan had been a LI this time around with romance dialog and a love scene we'd probably never even mention Jacob. He would have been even more forgettable. 


Indeed.
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Gosh Jho, your killing me(in a good way)....I keep thinking...what could have been. Absolutely excellent work. Wish you could make it into a gif and make it move. 

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Jake71887 wrote...

BECC4 wrote...
Of course it all adds to the risk, ask any woman who's ever fallen for a badboy, men are generally infuriating partly because we can't stay away from them (or is that just me Image IPB).


Where does that leave the cute & manipulative men? :crying:


Looks like I'm gonna have to go start another fight to get the girl <_<


Cute and manipulative is still badboy, my general rule of thumb is approach all males as hostile, toy with them first, gauge their reaction and then strike ......... wait no, I mean .................*giggles whilst twirling a lock of hair around her finger looking pretty*

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Jake71887 wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

What about the insane, initially shy types? I...I mean...they don't seem to have much lucky compared to said bad boys (aggronant tossers that they are)


The get institutionalized? :whistle:


This would explain why I've had to tunnel my way out of 4 buildings using nothing but plastic utensils :wizard:

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BECC4 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

BECC4 wrote...
Of course it all adds to the risk, ask any woman who's ever fallen for a badboy, men are generally infuriating partly because we can't stay away from them (or is that just me Image IPB).


Where does that leave the cute & manipulative men? :crying:


Looks like I'm gonna have to go start another fight to get the girl <_<


Cute and manipulative is still badboy, my general rule of thumb is approach all males as hostile, toy with them first, gauge their reaction and then strike ......... wait no, I mean .................*giggles whilst twirling a lock of hair around her finger looking pretty*


Wait, what?

*see's the hair twirling, mind goes blank and drooling starts - left hand occasionally darts up to wipe away said drool.*

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Doug84 wrote...

BECC4 wrote...

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Because men like to pretend they're being sly or sneaky? :ph34r: 


Haha, so true, bless their little cotton socks, tell me as a man do you actually realise that most of the time we know exactly what you're doing?


You do?!

:?:blink::unsure: *hides the cannon, the flags, and the circus clown*


Ugh, clowns, freaky!

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BECC4 wrote...

Cute and manipulative is still badboy, my general rule of thumb is approach all males as hostile, toy with them first, gauge their reaction and then strike ......... wait no, I mean .................*giggles whilst twirling a lock of hair around her finger looking pretty*


Oh, here I always assumed badboy was the you know, scarred and bloody after just having been in a brawl, grabs the girl and makes out while putting on his shades... B)

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Jhosephine wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I think we are discussing him because he was not what we wanted. If Kaidan had been a LI this time around with romance dialog and a love scene we'd probably never even mention Jacob. He would have been even more forgettable. 


Indeed.
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Much better Jho, didn't make me think of porn this time *thumbs up*

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I want to see bad boy kaiden :(

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fortunesque wrote...

One thing I find interesting about Jacob is that everyone says that he has his stuff together and is like Kaidan.

I find the opposite to be true. He joined Cerberus because he agrees with their current direction. He left the Alliance because it had changed. He'll leave Cerberus if they change directions.

Yeah, he's got convictions, but he changes sides way too much. I think he's a bit naive and confused about the general direction of his life. IMO, Jacob desperately needs a mentor.

This doesn't mean I hate the guy at all. It simply means that I find it very hard to have him as a believable romance.


Excellent points Fort...Kaidan sounds much more mature or at least that's how I took it..

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MICHELLE7 wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

One thing I find interesting about Jacob is that everyone says that he has his stuff together and is like Kaidan.

I find the opposite to be true. He joined Cerberus because he agrees with their current direction. He left the Alliance because it had changed. He'll leave Cerberus if they change directions.

Yeah, he's got convictions, but he changes sides way too much. I think he's a bit naive and confused about the general direction of his life. IMO, Jacob desperately needs a mentor.

This doesn't mean I hate the guy at all. It simply means that I find it very hard to have him as a believable romance.


Excellent points Fort...Kaidan sounds much more mature or at least that's how I took it..


He is more mature.