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Morning Sia :)

I did a fluff update yesterday if you need a dose of it after dealing with Horizon again.


I might.  I need to write on aPoV and The Rescue.  Neither of which are angsty right now.

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@Sia Well, I think it's too late for me to be a beta reader. T_T XD
Good afternoon everyone!!

Edit: Top of the page!! wheeee

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Sorry, Ods. You can still enjoy it in all it's pain, though! And Meg still has to process the whole thing.

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Sialater wrote...

Sorry, Ods. You can still enjoy it in all it's pain, though! And Meg still has to process the whole thing.

It's ok....:P

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Ps: Loved it Sia!! especially the part when you describe....er....:innocent:
It was really :o

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OdScIs wrote...

@Sia Well, I think it's too late for me to be a beta reader. T_T XD
Good afternoon everyone!!

Edit: Top of the page!! wheeee

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Winde snuggles!  Yay!  Just the thing to lighten the mood B)

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I've been making the rounds of the character threads again with another thought exercise, this one coming off the Jack versus Kaidan discussion from the Jack thread. It's not so much about pitting squadmate versus squadmate, but considering which squadmates would work the best together. Say you had to organize a three-man squad and Shepard was not going to be in it. It's not about what powers you see during the game, as that's just game mechanics. More about what you think a squadmate's strengths are by considering their personality, their history, their strategies, their abilities, and so forth. Compare and contrast with the other squadmates and find that combination that makes each squadmate in the squad work at their best.

Like many squadmates, I know Kaidan's personality makes him easy to work with a wide number of squadmates that we have seen. But some squadmates I think suit him better. For instance, he has that comraderie with Ashley that allows for an almost unspoken coordination that you get from a team that's been working a long time together and have gotten to know each other's quirks. I also think Kaidan would work very well with Samara, they'd approach the battlefield with a well-analyzed approach and a methodical strategy. Also, I think they'd concentrate on coordinating their biotic attacks.

So barring the fact that Ashley is dead by the time you even meet Samara, I think a Kaidan+Ashley+Samara squad would be rather powerful. But then if I do have to take Virmire into account, then I suppose I'd replace Ashley with... Liara perhaps? I never thought teams had to be completely balanced between biotics, tech, and combat like ME1 seemed to stress. I think an all biotic squad could be quite lethal on its own, and Kaidan does have his own tech skills to fall back on should they need it.

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OdScIs wrote...

@Sia Well, I think it's too late for me to be a beta reader. T_T XD
Good afternoon everyone!!

Edit: Top of the page!! wheeee

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OMG SO CUTE! <3

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Hi there, Tat :) Did ya see my new chapter?

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Pacifien wrote...

I've been making the rounds of the character threads again with another thought exercise, this one coming off the Jack versus Kaidan discussion from the Jack thread. It's not so much about pitting squadmate versus squadmate, but considering which squadmates would work the best together. Say you had to organize a three-man squad and Shepard was not going to be in it. It's not about what powers you see during the game, as that's just game mechanics. More about what you think a squadmate's strengths are by considering their personality, their history, their strategies, their abilities, and so forth. Compare and contrast with the other squadmates and find that combination that makes each squadmate in the squad work at their best.

Like many squadmates, I know Kaidan's personality makes him easy to work with a wide number of squadmates that we have seen. But some squadmates I think suit him better. For instance, he has that comraderie with Ashley that allows for an almost unspoken coordination that you get from a team that's been working a long time together and have gotten to know each other's quirks. I also think Kaidan would work very well with Samara, they'd approach the battlefield with a well-analyzed approach and a methodical strategy. Also, I think they'd concentrate on coordinating their biotic attacks.

So barring the fact that Ashley is dead by the time you even meet Samara, I think a Kaidan+Ashley+Samara squad would be rather powerful. But then if I do have to take Virmire into account, then I suppose I'd replace Ashley with... Liara perhaps? I never thought teams had to be completely balanced between biotics, tech, and combat like ME1 seemed to stress. I think an all biotic squad could be quite lethal on its own, and Kaidan does have his own tech skills to fall back on should they need it.


I actually think Kaidan works quite well with Garrus, but that's possibly my own personal canon influencing my perceptions.  After all, for both my Sheps, they were the go-to guys.  As for the third of that unit . . .  Tali is an obvious choice, but I think Mordin would work well, too.

That is, assuming Kaidan and Garrus didn't have to compete to see who was now leading the team given that they're both leaders in their own right by ME2.

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But why do Garrus and Tali compliment Kaidan so well? What is it about their own combat abilities that work best with Kaidan? Or is it simply all about having gained experience in fighting with each other for so long? Outside of the game mechanics, what do they offer each other?

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Pacifien wrote...

But why do Garrus and Tali compliment Kaidan so well? What is it about their own combat abilities that work best with Kaidan? Or is it simply all about having gained experience in fighting with each other for so long? Outside of the game mechanics, what do they offer each other?


Well, the history is a factor.  But Tali's the upclose fighter with her shotgun, Garrus is long range with his sniper rifle.  Kaidan's the midrange fighter.  That's actually the balance I've been preferring in ME2 now, not powers balance.  My Vanguard will usually fill in for whatever position seems to be lacking in the squad (except Long Range, since she always brings Garrus).  

So, if not Tali, then it would be Jack or Jacob for that reasoning.  Since they are both up-close fighters, too.  Though I think Jacob would be better, personality-wise, if you didn't romance him thereby not instigating the rivalry with Garrus.  And I think he'd have too much respect for Kaidan to be a dick about following his orders.  Jack wouldn't endanger herself, but I think she'd forget she was part of a team and go off half-cocked. 

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I agree that Samara and Kaidan would work well together; they both strike me as the sort to be very methodical on the battlefield and they each can give as well as take orders. For a third member, I think Thane would work as well because he also shares that methodical approach and would be equally capable of joining them in close combat or providing long-range sniper support as the situation required. Jack or Grunt, I think, would be liable to go charging in and ruin their carefully orchestrated battle plan.

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Joisan wrote...

I agree that Samara and Kaidan would work well together; they both strike me as the sort to be very methodical on the battlefield and they each can give as well as take orders. For a third member, I think Thane would work as well because he also shares that methodical approach and would be equally capable of joining them in close combat or providing long-range sniper support as the situation required. Jack or Grunt, I think, would be liable to go charging in and ruin their carefully orchestrated battle plan.


That is why you send in Jack and Grunt with... Wrex.  He is an upclose fighter and is a leader.  As for the Kaidan and Samara pairing... I agree.  Personaly I think a pairing of Kaidan + Samara + Legion = awesome.  That team would be all kinds of win.

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I agree with the Kaidan/Samara consensus. I think as the final member, I'd pick Grunt to tank around.



Essentially, you've got a vanguard, a soldier and a sentinel class, so you've got everything covered.

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Oh man, I think trying to control Grunt will test all of Kaidan's leadership skills.

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Wrex riding a nuke in space shooting dragons.



That trumps everything and everyone. Period.



Seriously though, Kaidan and Garrus seemed to work well for me in ME1. Ash was a good compliment too.

Kaidan + Samara would be doom. We'd all go Blue Suns bowling. Except I have no biotics... So alone, so isolated... Like there's a hole where the heart may possibly be.</ripoff>



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Batteries wrote...

Wrex riding a nuke in space shooting dragons.

That trumps everything and everyone. Period.

Seriously though, Kaidan and Garrus seemed to work well for me in ME1. Ash was a good compliment too.
Kaidan + Samara would be doom. We'd all go Blue Suns bowling. Except I have no biotics... So alone, so isolated... Like there's a hole where the heart may possibly be.

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I went blue suns bowling yesterday while playing Grunts recruitment mission.

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I went blue suns bowling yesterday while playing Grunts recruitment mission.

I like skeet shooting.

PULL!

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Me and Jack have fun there. Me and Garrus sit back and snipe them when they are in mid air. Posted Image

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Hi to all the Kaidan fans :D
I found the forums because of the awesome fan art that the members have made. I LOVE all of the shirtless Kaidan art. mmm. Thanks ladies :)
And especially kudos to whoever made that shirtless trio of Kaidan, Alistair, and Carth. Yum.
You are a very talented group :)

I just got into Mass Effect a couple of months ago and am working on ME2 second time through. I love the concept that they have for this series--that the 3 games are all part of one big story. It tears me up how things are between fem Shepard and Kaidan in this game. I'm glad he sent that e-mail or else I would have been depressed through the remainder of the game. This way there is hope and it kept my Kimbri Shepard from falling for Thane and "cheating" on Kaidan (although the way they left it, they are kinda "on a break" Ross from Friends would argue). I don't think Kaidan's reunion with the less faithful Shepards is going to go too great.

Hmmm...Kaidan vs. Jack. I think that though they would not like each other from a personal standpoint, they would work together without too much difficulty. Kaidan is a professional. He would do what is best for the team. He always does. Jack would probably rather tear up a group of enemies rather than some Alliance guy. The problem would come if Jack wanted to harm an innocent or civilian for expediency. Kaidan wouldn't stand for that.

In a straight up fight? Hm...I think it would depend on the situation. Kaidan is very logical and uses his head. Jack uses her gut reaction. It might be a toss up. But I fear that Kaidan might not come out on top.

EDIT:  And which of you did that "Thinking of Horizon" video on YouTube?  It was brilliant!  I'd love to be able to put that on my iPod.

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Pacifien wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...
I went blue suns bowling yesterday while playing Grunts recruitment mission.

I like skeet shooting.

PULL!


Sometimes football is fun also...

CHARGE!!!

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Hi to all the Kaidan fans :D
I found the forums because of the awesome fan art that the members have made. I LOVE all of the shirtless Kaidan art. mmm. Thanks ladies :)
And especially kudos to whoever made that shirtless trio of Kaidan, Alistair, and Carth. Yum.
You are a very talented group :)

I just got into Mass Effect a couple of months ago and am working on ME2 second time through. I love the concept that they have for this series--that the 3 games are all part of one big story. It tears me up how things are between fem Shepard and Kaidan in this game. I'm glad he sent that e-mail or else I would have been depressed through the remainder of the game. This way there is hope and it kept my Kimbri Shepard from falling for Thane and "cheating" on Kaidan (although the way they left it, they are kinda "on a break" Ross from Friends would argue). I don't think Kaidan's reunion with the less faithful Shepards is going to go too great.

Hmmm...Kaidan vs. Jack. I think that though they would not like each other from a personal standpoint, they would work together without too much difficulty. Kaidan is a professional. He would do what is best for the team. He always does. Jack would probably rather tear up a group of enemies rather than some Alliance guy. The problem would come if Jack wanted to harm an innocent or civilian for expediency. Kaidan wouldn't stand for that.

In a straight up fight? Hm...I think it would depend on the situation. Kaidan is very logical and uses his head. Jack uses her gut reaction. It might be a toss up. But I fear that Kaidan might not come out on top.

EDIT:  And which of you did that "Thinking of Horizon" video on YouTube?  It was brilliant!  I'd love to be able to put that on my iPod.


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Oh! I see I was remiss in welcoming the new members! I apologize!



Have a Kaidan!



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Heya Jade! Welcome to the Kaidan thread where it might be, um, hard not to keep your mind from falling into the gutter. ;)

I'm one of the people who don't think those LI confrontations are going to be some all out argument or brawl. Not where Kaidan is concerned, the guy is far too mature for that. I can see there being disappointment on his part if Shepard said she had found another... oh man, now I picture that puppy dog sadness as Shepard tells him that and suddenly she's all "I didn't mean it! Stop looking like that! You! I choose you! Let's get a puppy!"

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@Jade: The shirtless trio is courtesy of Jhosephine. And "Thinking of Horizon" is by Eshaye. To this day one of my favorite Shenko vids even though I've made two of my own.