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And then she went, "Kaidan? OMGEE!!!!!!" *flirty lines* :wub:


lol!! Well that's a better theory then BioWare told her to deliver like that. That just makes me go Posted Image

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It's interesting they got Kaidan so right the first time out and then got Jacob so wrong on their second try. Were they just going for something different or were they perhaps trying in some odd way to keep us from cheating because the reunion they've got planned for with Femshep and Kaidan is so good they don't want us to miss it.( I would like that if that were the case).

I almost think Thane is an experiment. I know nothing about Carth but if Thane's character is so close to Carth it might be that they wanted to know if how the character looked had anything to do with why a person liked them. I mean if Thane and Carth are the same and more women like Carth over Thane then maybe it does have something to do with appearance. A test perhaps for the future as to how they design and create their characters.


I think in some sense the fact that we see these types of characters over and over is some sign that Bioware does listen to us women.

I like Thane as a character but I actually don't see it as "Carth-like." His focus and sensitivities seem more spiritual; contemplative and introspective more than anything else.  Alistair is more Carth-like to me both in terms of being somewhat abandoned or betrayed by family/friends and use of humor, which actually could make sense given that both characters were written by David Gaider. 

Carth (and I did like him) had major trust issues.  He'd been betrayed by a lot of important people in his life and he felt guilty that he'd let his family down. So, like many folks, particularly males, are often  taught, he pushed his feelings away for the most part. And he was conflicted by liking (or loving the female) PC. All his trust issues came to the fore.  And guess what?  Revan isn't exactly who she thinks and says she is either..... (big surprise and we all know how Bioware loves surprises like this!). Much of Carth's dialog was a kind of questioning of the PC along with some lovely fliritatous humor when the PC called him out on his stuff.  But as has been said before, any male NPC who behaves more sensitively than Duke Nukem seems to be considered "whiny."  Posted Image

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social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/1320428/3

Yeah, i keep messing up links.  anyhow, totally open arena to match wits with silly boys that shouldn't splash back on us.

I was entertained

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Star58 wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


It's interesting they got Kaidan so right the first time out and then got Jacob so wrong on their second try. Were they just going for something different or were they perhaps trying in some odd way to keep us from cheating because the reunion they've got planned for with Femshep and Kaidan is so good they don't want us to miss it.( I would like that if that were the case).

I almost think Thane is an experiment. I know nothing about Carth but if Thane's character is so close to Carth it might be that they wanted to know if how the character looked had anything to do with why a person liked them. I mean if Thane and Carth are the same and more women like Carth over Thane then maybe it does have something to do with appearance. A test perhaps for the future as to how they design and create their characters.


I think in some sense the fact that we see these types of characters over and over is some sign that Bioware does listen to us women.

I like Thane as a character but I actually don't see it as "Carth-like." His focus and sensitivities seem more spiritual; contemplative and introspective more than anything else.  Alistair is more Carth-like to me both in terms of being somewhat abandoned or betrayed by family/friends and use of humor, which actually could make sense given that both characters were written by David Gaider. 

Carth (and I did like him) had major trust issues.  He'd been betrayed by a lot of important people in his life and he felt guilty that he'd let his family down. So, like many folks, particularly males, are often  taught, he pushed his feelings away for the most part. And he was conflicted by liking (or loving the female) PC. All his trust issues came to the fore.  And guess what?  Revan isn't exactly who she thinks and says she is either..... (big surprise and we all know how Bioware loves surprises like this!). Much of Carth's dialog was a kind of questioning of the PC along with some lovely fliritatous humor when the PC called him out on his stuff.  But as has been said before, any male NPC who behaves more sensitively than Duke Nukem seems to be considered "whiny."  Posted Image

Duke Nukem was a bit of a b*tch

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

The horizen reunion is the saddest scene in the game :(


 Agreed it was very sad for me,  it also was a big wtf moment from the  words being said. :(

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I agree with the folks here who say that did such a fantastic job with Kaidan as an LI in the first game...

Liara is sweet and pretty and I even tried one playthrough with her as my Femshep's LI....and I just couldn't do it (scrapped that game)......I just...well it just wasn't "there" for me, if that makes sense.

I know it's a game...we all know that...but if I'm playing a role playing game and there's the option of romance, I'm going to go after the type of character that is most similar to the type of person that I'd be attracted to in real life.

Kaidan just fit that bill for me...there's just something about him, the way he looks, the way he talks, the way he acts that makes you want to fall in love with him, run away with him, kill things with him, make mad love and eat stacks of waffles and lots of pie with him, etc...:D

I like Garrus a lot and liked Thane as well, and have had 2 new ME2 playthroughs where I romanced each of them...they were decent and nicely done IMO, but suffice to say, it's just NOT Kaidan...I admit totally that as of now, I'm spoiled and I'm biased and feel that they'd be hard pressed to come up with another LI that impresses and intrigues me as much as Kaidan did/does...

Maybe a space version of Dean Winchester would be nice...specializing in shotguns and sarcastic remarks...eh as attractive as that sounds, it's still not Kaidan...:P

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chem light wrote...

Star58 wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


It's interesting they got Kaidan so right the first time out and then got Jacob so wrong on their second try. Were they just going for something different or were they perhaps trying in some odd way to keep us from cheating because the reunion they've got planned for with Femshep and Kaidan is so good they don't want us to miss it.( I would like that if that were the case).

I almost think Thane is an experiment. I know nothing about Carth but if Thane's character is so close to Carth it might be that they wanted to know if how the character looked had anything to do with why a person liked them. I mean if Thane and Carth are the same and more women like Carth over Thane then maybe it does have something to do with appearance. A test perhaps for the future as to how they design and create their characters.


I think in some sense the fact that we see these types of characters over and over is some sign that Bioware does listen to us women.

I like Thane as a character but I actually don't see it as "Carth-like." His focus and sensitivities seem more spiritual; contemplative and introspective more than anything else.  Alistair is more Carth-like to me both in terms of being somewhat abandoned or betrayed by family/friends and use of humor, which actually could make sense given that both characters were written by David Gaider. 

Carth (and I did like him) had major trust issues.  He'd been betrayed by a lot of important people in his life and he felt guilty that he'd let his family down. So, like many folks, particularly males, are often  taught, he pushed his feelings away for the most part. And he was conflicted by liking (or loving the female) PC. All his trust issues came to the fore.  And guess what?  Revan isn't exactly who she thinks and says she is either..... (big surprise and we all know how Bioware loves surprises like this!). Much of Carth's dialog was a kind of questioning of the PC along with some lovely fliritatous humor when the PC called him out on his stuff.  But as has been said before, any male NPC who behaves more sensitively than Duke Nukem seems to be considered "whiny."  Posted Image

Duke Nukem was a bit of a b*tch


Thoughts of Duke reminded me of the Planet of Babes game cover.  Ugh.  Must go bleach my eyes.Posted Image

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Well, the similarities between Carth and Thane are strictly in their background stories...both had wives killed because of their own professions, both had sons whom they had lost -- Carth's was taken, Thane abandoned his, and both sons grew up to follow in their dad's footsteps in a bad way, making the son's redemption into a quest.



That's quite a bit in common, too much to be just a coincidence...

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BECC4 wrote...

I just popped in to say hi, tried Reading but lots of words and very drunk, needed naked 'kaidan b4 bed :-)

Love u guys!

Ps. No ******


A glass of wine and some hot Kaidan pictures is a great way to spend a few hours before bed :)

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TeenZombie wrote...

Well, the similarities between Carth and Thane are strictly in their background stories...both had wives killed because of their own professions, both had sons whom they had lost -- Carth's was taken, Thane abandoned his, and both sons grew up to follow in their dad's footsteps in a bad way, making the son's redemption into a quest.

That's quite a bit in common, too much to be just a coincidence...


Yeah, I agree with your (it was yours, I believe !) earlier comment that ME cribbed Carth's background for Thane.  However, my thought is that the characters, although they have background commonalities are also different in their responses. Carth was pretty right side and I see Thane as much more shade of grey. Carth felt victimized and blamed others, particularly Revan for what happened to his family; even though he could kick himself pretty well for having failed his family, he generally tended to refocus this on blaming Revan.  Thane seems more accepting of himself  (regret vs. guilt) and accepts responsibility for his actions even though he may have regrets and be working on a form of redemption. 

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<3  Kaidan Alenko:  he doesn't have a dead wife and troubled son. <3

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Sometimes I feel like the only kid here who hasn't played KOTOR.

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TeenZombie wrote...

<3  Kaidan Alenko:  he doesn't have a dead wife and troubled son. <3



Lamo, that would be so bad, if it wasn't so true. 

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He said he fancied someone before, but went mad when someone was hurting her, and killed that person who he was angry at.

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TeenZombie wrote...

<3  Kaidan Alenko:  he doesn't have a dead wife and troubled son. <3



Kaiden! Posted Image

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Star58 wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Well, the similarities between Carth and Thane are strictly in their background stories...both had wives killed because of their own professions, both had sons whom they had lost -- Carth's was taken, Thane abandoned his, and both sons grew up to follow in their dad's footsteps in a bad way, making the son's redemption into a quest.

That's quite a bit in common, too much to be just a coincidence...


Yeah, I agree with your (it was yours, I believe !) earlier comment that ME cribbed Carth's background for Thane.  However, my thought is that the characters, although they have background commonalities are also different in their responses. Carth was pretty right side and I see Thane as much more shade of grey. Carth felt victimized and blamed others, particularly Revan for what happened to his family; even though he could kick himself pretty well for having failed his family, he generally tended to refocus this on blaming Revan.  Thane seems more accepting of himself  (regret vs. guilt) and accepts responsibility for his actions even though he may have regrets and be working on a form of redemption. 

 

Sky from Jade Empire also shares a lot in common with Carth/Thane.  He is a grieving father and widow who needs you to encourage him to give relationships a second chance.

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If I find out that Kaidan is a baby-daddy, I will punch something.



For serious.

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chem light wrote...

Sometimes I feel like the only kid here who hasn't played KOTOR.


I haven't either, so don't feel bad. It also wasn't really anything I would have picked up because I never really liked Star Wars in general so anything connected to it I will generally not touch.

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Star58 wrote...

chem light wrote...

Star58 wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...


It's interesting they got Kaidan so right the first time out and then got Jacob so wrong on their second try. Were they just going for something different or were they perhaps trying in some odd way to keep us from cheating because the reunion they've got planned for with Femshep and Kaidan is so good they don't want us to miss it.( I would like that if that were the case).

I almost think Thane is an experiment. I know nothing about Carth but if Thane's character is so close to Carth it might be that they wanted to know if how the character looked had anything to do with why a person liked them. I mean if Thane and Carth are the same and more women like Carth over Thane then maybe it does have something to do with appearance. A test perhaps for the future as to how they design and create their characters.


I think in some sense the fact that we see these types of characters over and over is some sign that Bioware does listen to us women.

I like Thane as a character but I actually don't see it as "Carth-like." His focus and sensitivities seem more spiritual; contemplative and introspective more than anything else.  Alistair is more Carth-like to me both in terms of being somewhat abandoned or betrayed by family/friends and use of humor, which actually could make sense given that both characters were written by David Gaider. 

Carth (and I did like him) had major trust issues.  He'd been betrayed by a lot of important people in his life and he felt guilty that he'd let his family down. So, like many folks, particularly males, are often  taught, he pushed his feelings away for the most part. And he was conflicted by liking (or loving the female) PC. All his trust issues came to the fore.  And guess what?  Revan isn't exactly who she thinks and says she is either..... (big surprise and we all know how Bioware loves surprises like this!). Much of Carth's dialog was a kind of questioning of the PC along with some lovely fliritatous humor when the PC called him out on his stuff.  But as has been said before, any male NPC who behaves more sensitively than Duke Nukem seems to be considered "whiny."  Posted Image

Duke Nukem was a bit of a b*tch


Thoughts of Duke reminded me of the Planet of Babes game cover.  Ugh.  Must go bleach my eyes.Posted Image


There will be no bleaching of the eyes here.......we have a better remedy....

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 A much better remedy :wub:

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chem light wrote...

Sometimes I feel like the only kid here who hasn't played KOTOR.

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Nope not the only one. I have never played it either

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Hahaha..I wish this remedy was at the doctors office waiting for me...

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Where's his six-pack...?

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Where's his six-pack...?


I've wondered that too. You can clearly see it through his shirt, but in the love scene, they didn't bother to put it in. Then again, you only see his bare chest for 3 seconds tops

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Where's his six-pack...?

few pages back in lady winde's shower picture post...