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Sialater wrote...

Acquaintance.

We're still a minority, ladies, no matter how vocal.


ty. i am a horrible speller. and yes. a minority indeed. though there are other gaming minorities as well. sadly, it seems the default gamer is supposedly white, straight, male, 19 years old, and only likes boobies. *le sigh*

bioware does better than most companies, however. it may not be in the promo material, but they usually slip ins tuff for the non-standard gamer. is why they've won my loyalty as a fan over the years.

edit: top of page kaidan - and a FEMshep:

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Shepard: I *AM* Shepard. and I'm a lady. Say it, punk. Shepard is a LADY.
Kaidan: You'd better say it, man. She gets pissed off when people call her Sheploo.

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I think everyone (not just on this thread, mostly on the other) is missing a bit of what Teen was saying and what I totally agree with...FemShep is shafted not just with no cover but with no art whatsoever. She is not represented. Not in development pics, not in anything. I don't have a cool femshep wallpaper my comp unless a fan makes it. I don't get 'holy ****!' cutscenes with a femshep that I can relate to, I get Sheploo and his side kick cleavage of the week.

Her LIs? Kaidan is a perfect example. Compare the information we have on the female LIs as compared with what we have on the male. Ash vs Kaidan is a perfect example.

I thought Teen represented her point very well and it irritated me to read it degenerated into a male vs female triteness.

Okay, I will go there...there are no words to express how pissed I was when I found out MaleRevan got to kiss Bastila and my FemRevan got nothing from Carth but Sbarge's soulful VA. Bad words were said.

And yes, dammit! I want a cut scene with Kaidan at FemSheps back where they are both kicking ass and taking names. Is that so much to ask?

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FireEye wrote...

Livia wrote...

Haha, I'm working on a fanfic as well... although there won't be too much Kaidan at the beginning of it. I need to find a site to join other than FF since they have a tendency to filter stories. Mine is nowhere near that certain point yet, but when it gets there I've no doubt they'd want a glossed over version and I don't roll that way. xD Any suggestions


Archive of Our Own.  Smaller reader-base, less restrictive rules (and they don't mess with your formatting as badly).  ...FF.N will only pull your stuff if someone reports you, but still...

Thanks, FireEye! Definitely going to sign up here. =)

Haha, yeah, I had a bad experience with FF.N pulling a story written by an awesome author for the 'sexual content' and it was TAME compared to some other stuff I've read... even in published books where romance is not the main theme. I mean granted my fanfic is not going to be a huge smut fest by any means, those are tacky, but I'd rather not take the chance of having it taken down because someone reports it for not glossing over the sex scenes like a Disney movie.

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jilly, i'm one of the female gamers that didn't know you could be a femshep in mass effect until my boyfriend said otherwise.  that's how i ended up playing the game.

i could have missed out on this face...

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and kitty kaidan...

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i wish there was more stuff for femshep.  she unfortunately gets shafted in a lot of ways. in game and out.

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@ jaer. i hear you. i have been trying to collect some video in fraps of all the squaddies looking cool - seriously, no cool intros/fights/anything for kaidan. is sadness to me. gonna have to find some footage of fights, i think. he does *not* just stand around and talk, but to see the cutscenes, you'd think he did. sadness.

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JaerWolfe wrote...

I think everyone (not just on this thread, mostly on the other) is missing a bit of what Teen was saying and what I totally agree with...FemShep is shafted not just with no cover but with no art whatsoever. She is not represented. Not in development pics, not in anything. I don't have a cool femshep wallpaper my comp unless a fan makes it. I don't get 'holy ****!' cutscenes with a femshep that I can relate to, I get Sheploo and his side kick cleavage of the week.
Her LIs? Kaidan is a perfect example. Compare the information we have on the female LIs as compared with what we have on the male. Ash vs Kaidan is a perfect example.
I thought Teen represented her point very well and it irritated me to read it degenerated into a male vs female triteness.
Okay, I will go there...there are no words to express how pissed I was when I found out MaleRevan got to kiss Bastila and my FemRevan got nothing from Carth but Sbarge's soulful VA. Bad words were said.
And yes, dammit! I want a cut scene with Kaidan at FemSheps back where they are both kicking ass and taking names. Is that so much to ask?


I completely agree with her and get where she is coming from. FemShep got random pictures thrown out after the game was released, or just right before.
I :blush:d cuz I knew exactly where the thread would go: down the drain. Fights, arguments ect.
Alistair, Kaidan and Carth all bit the dust on any info last I checked. Did anyone even know Kaidan was an LI before the game release?
Seeing Alistair instead of Sten in that Sacred Ashes trailed would of, imo, made more sense seeing as he does play an important role in the story, like him or not. Morrigan was the poster girl, and plays an important role, so she was there.
I doubt we'll get anything related to Kaidan for ME3 video wise either, like a "Character Reveal Trailer"
I doubt Ash will either, but much better chance than he does. You'll just have to "assume" him into the same trailer and position. :blink:

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I didn't know too terribly much when I bought Mass Effect, just that it was awesome and sounded like I'd enjoy it. I rented it first and just started with the deafult soldier male Shepard, because I assumed that like with a lot of others games I've played, it'd be more fun playing as male and I'd get more out of the story. Unfortunately I only got to the beginning of Therum before something happened to the rental disc... went out and bought the game as soon as I could and started a new game with a FemShep.

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KITTY KAIDAN! btw...I have this Carth picture...as my background for both monitors.... Posted Image

And my dad walks in and goes "is that your boyfriend? Why does your boyfriend have a gun?" That made me laugh...:wub:

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sagequeen wrote...

@ jaer. i hear you. i have been trying to collect some video in fraps of all the squaddies looking cool - seriously, no cool intros/fights/anything for kaidan. is sadness to me. gonna have to find some footage of fights, i think. he does *not* just stand around and talk, but to see the cutscenes, you'd think he did. sadness.


i lurk some threads and one complaint about kaidan was he didn't have a badass cutscene.  that of course proved he was useless in combat.

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UrbanPhoenix wrote...

KITTY KAIDAN! btw...I have this Carth picture...as my background for both monitors.... Posted Image

And my dad walks in and goes "is that your boyfriend? Why does your boyfriend have a gun?" That made me laugh...:wub:


Aww, awesome dad! I don't dare to have shirtless pictures on my monitors; no one in my family would understand. *sighs*

Yeah, I suddenly do feel a part of the minority of female gamers. I try to explain it to my family, and they all stare at me like I'm flaming insane.

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You know, I can't help but think how much it would appease all the shallow 'Kaidan is a whiney Carth clone wannabe that I hate 'cause he's gay' jerks if there were a decent cutscene with him going full biotic kick against something. Or at least shut them up. That argument is so old it's grandchildren have arthritis.



Boy, am I pissy or what today?

Think happy thoughts!!



I'm swirling this around as a line in my next fic...

"You keep hurting my manly feelings like this and my wife is going to beat you up."


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On another note, I wasn't gone thirty minutes, but you lot got talkative! Please don't say I'm murdering the thread... that would make me very sad.

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JaerWolfe wrote...
"You keep hurting my manly feelings like this and my wife is going to beat you up."


Epic. Win!

Also, it's okay to be pissy sometimes. You just need Kaidan.

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siriusrambles wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

@ jaer. i hear you. i have been trying to collect some video in fraps of all the squaddies looking cool - seriously, no cool intros/fights/anything for kaidan. is sadness to me. gonna have to find some footage of fights, i think. he does *not* just stand around and talk, but to see the cutscenes, you'd think he did. sadness.


i lurk some threads and one complaint about kaidan was he didn't have a badass cutscene.  that of course proved he was useless in combat.


Oh, of course. Everybody knows that!

I think if my mom walked in and saw a picture of a shirtless guy with a gun, she'd probably wonder when I started digging guys with guns. In fact, she'd probably wonder when I started to gaga over a single guy in the first place, privately or loud and proud like those twilight fans.

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@Tatooine - My family doesn't get me gaming either. And yes, I feel like a minority girl gamer. BUT! The thing is...my major is in Digital Media...focusing on 3D Art aka Video Game art....soo....yea...

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UrbanPhoenix wrote...

@Tatooine - My family doesn't get me gaming either. And yes, I feel like a minority girl gamer. BUT! The thing is...my major is in Digital Media...focusing on 3D Art aka Video Game art....soo....yea...


Oooh! You design the games, and I'll write them! :o

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JaerWolfe wrote...

You know, I can't help but think how much it would appease all the shallow 'Kaidan is a whiney Carth clone wannabe that I hate 'cause he's gay' jerks if there were a decent cutscene with him going full biotic kick against something. Or at least shut them up. That argument is so old it's grandchildren have arthritis.

Haha, yes, that'd be awesome! I'd pay good money for that cutscene. To all those nay-sayers...

KAIDAN IS NOT AMUSED!!!

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...dunno why but I love his expression here, it's hot. >_>

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ACK double post. Sorreh.

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jillyfae wrote...

Hi thread!
I remember Gaider commenting somewhere that they wouldn't cast Sbarge as another LI on purpose, cause they got too much flak for it happening twice. Doesn't mean they wouldn't cast him as a villain or NPC or somesuch... that could be entertaining. (And would probably inspire some crack-fics where said villain or NPC was suddenly romance-able, just cause of the voice.)


I think we need to "storm the castle" and offset all the Sbarge/Carth/Kaidan haters and let Bioware know that there is also a dedicated fan following out there for his voicework.

@Jillyfae:  Nathan Fillian as Alistair?  That would have been cool!  Just watched Firefly for the first time a couple of months ago.  Only the good die young...
--And I've read that Sbarge has done villain stuff.  Tried to watch a clip from YouTube, but...ummm...he's not really an attractive guy so it kinda freaks me out to hear Carth/Kaidan coming out of his mouth.  Posted Image

//okay what does "smexy" mean?

Okay...the male/female gamer thing.  How about they market a RPG with romance.  For the female demographic, you can only pick up the Sbarge LI character if you play as a female.  They've done companions like that before.  You'd only get a certain character if you were light side or dark side, or male or female.  And then those whiny-a**'d jerks who ****** and moan about not wanting to hear Sbarge's voice don't have to worry about it.  They won't have him in the game.

Hmmm...and I usually play as a paragon/light side character.  Just have trouble playing a baddie.  But I'd turn in a second if that would get me a Sbarge LI in a game.  That would be interesting...

jaederwolfe
Okay, I will go there...there are no words to express how pissed I was when I found out MaleRevan got to kiss Bastila and my FemRevan got nothing from Carth but Sbarge's soulful VA. Bad words were said.
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You know, I can't help but think how much it would appease all the shallow 'Kaidan is a whiney Carth clone wannabe that I hate 'cause he's gay' jerks if there were a decent cutscene with him going full biotic kick against something. Or at least shut them up. That argument is so old it's grandchildren have arthritis.

Yeah.  Don't even get me started there.  they get a romantic private kiss.  FemRev gets to a love declaration in front of the entire crowd 20 ft from Carth and no kiss.  Posted Image

On the Kaidan biotic kick:  Frak yeah!
That would have been cool to have a flashback of him taking down his instructor.

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For the KotOR PC gamers amongst us: http://www.cjt0202.n...rth_romance.php

For the Xbox ones... buy a copy of the PC version? :whistle:

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JaerWolfe wrote...


I'm swirling this around as a line in my next fic...
"You keep hurting my manly feelings like this and my wife is going to beat you up."



Please with Kaidan on top put that in SOMEWHERE.

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I tried to do that. For some reason it just crashed my computer every time I got to that scene. grrr

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@ Jade: Do I smell conflicting mods? *gasp!* I hate those. I had a major KotOR mod conflict once that made all the clothing textures turn white. So everybody was wearing blocky white suits. Carth didn't look very handsome like that.

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Sialater wrote...

JaerWolfe wrote...


I'm swirling this around as a line in my next fic...
"You keep hurting my manly feelings like this and my wife is going to beat you up."



Please with Kaidan top put that in SOMEWHERE.


Ironically, before the FemPC vs MalePC topic came up, I had this scene playing in my mind with Kaidan meeting someone from his past, who served with him, who would be a big drunk HeMan and spout every single argument I've ever heard against Kaidan. The whole 'whiney' 'gay' bit as well as being reminded of someone else completely different. That line cropped up then and no worries. It will be used once I get down to writing it. I keep picturing Kaidan with a half smile/smirk as he says it.

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ours is like a Best of SW games edition or something, so perhaps that caused some issue. But I didn't have any other mods on there.



But speaking of unfairness--they guys could have Bastilla run around in skimpy underwear and Carth had a sleeveless shirt and shorts. What the?

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Jade5233 wrote...

ours is like a Best of SW games edition or something, so perhaps that caused some issue. But I didn't have any other mods on there.

But speaking of unfairness--they guys could have Bastilla run around in skimpy underwear and Carth had a sleeveless shirt and shorts. What the?


Ohhh, yeah, the Best Of causes problems. I know this because a friend has that and uses a save-game editor to do stuff like mods. The stand-alone KotOR disc doesn't, though.

And I KNOW! That was epically unfair. Thank heaven for Carth clothing mods that allow him to run around in tight pants and no shirt... :wub: