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[FireEye]

sesheta255 wrote...

I do wonder how Cerberus knows about Shep & Kaidan in the first place anyway, unless one of the old Normandy crew spilled the beans, or they had someone on board the original Normandy.

I blame Joker.

Edit: Top of Page, needs groping.  I mean, needs Kaidan.

Modifié par FireEye, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:21 .

[RPGmom28]

jillyfae, I adored your Joker/Kaidan notes on Deviant Art. I added you to my watch list there.

[sesheta255]

Yeah Joker was the one who came to mind but I didn't want to accuse him unjustly, lol

[Sialater]

I think it was a matter of convenience. The Virmire Survivor was the only vulnerable member of your team at the time. They didn't have to KNOW you had a thing going on with them, they were just the only ones available for the trap.



However, it was nice of both of them to confirm it with that email.

[sesheta255]

well TIM did say that shepard should put her past relationships behind her after Horizon, but then he may have heard the conversation with Kaidan and put 2 & 2 together

[UrbanPhoenix]

@Night - I can't....I click on Carth and just watch his ass as he runs.....*drools*

[JaerWolfe]

I cheated.

I couldn't help myself. There was an initial attraction...that old thrum of excitement, the thrill of something new that could possibly lead to a long lasting, meaningful relationship. I just...had to. I didn't want to hurt the one I love, but...there was temptation saying 'come taste me, you'll like'. Is it so very wrong to want to have a relationship with more than one?

I love the steady, easy companionship I have with my old love, I really do, but there is something so powerful, so...so...pulsing about my new love.

Please don't judge me.

I hope my Widow will some day forgive me and we can still be friends.

[Jade5233]

fortunesque wrote...

Sialater wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

I'm probably one of maybe two-ish people that blame Shepard for Horizon much more than the VS.

Nope.  It took two people to screw that up.  Just like in any real life fight.

I'm saying that I believe that it's more Shepard's fault than his.

When I play, I'm hurt by his response (both by feeling Shepard's pain and by seeing his), but I'm angered by hers.

And I agree that it takes two.  But if she had been more warm toward him (hell, I don't think it would have taken much--just match how he started off), he wouldn't have blown up like he did.  Was it right of him?  No.  But even Kaidan has limits to his self-control and after 2 years, the poor man finally reached his.
@Giggles:  I guess we just disagree.  I was angry and hurt by his rejection of Shep 1st time through (well, and second), but the depth of emotion he shows in his message gets to me.  Remember, this is a man who never lets anyone in.  He keeps to himself.  Even in ME1 when he opens up to her, he never really comes out and tells her how he feels.  He starts on various occassions.  She knows what he means or where he is going with it.  But he never really says it.  In his message, he lays it all out.  In words and in feeling--everything that's going on with him.  Yes.  Its all jumbled up.  Yes, its a mess.  But its honest and its open.  To be honest, its more that Shepard deserves at that point.  And what does she offer in return?  Nothing  Hell, she doesn't even respond to her mother's e-mail.

Teen Zombie:
So while it was wrong for Kaidan to go off and not listen, there is NO way to actually make him listen, which makes Shepard wrong, too. This is the way they wrote him out for this chapter, and while it sucks, I have to accept it, and hope that his role is better in the next game.

I like Jilly's fic where she runs him down and makes him listen.

@sesheta:  I wouldn't worry too much about the Citadel doctor.  Would she have an absolutely gorgeous man sitting across from her at dinner?  Yes.  But it likely was a miserable date.  He's been mourning his girlfriend for 2 years and this is the first social contact he's had.  You think Shepard didn't come up (Perhaps not by name).  You don't think he felt guilty the entire date for "cheating" on a woman that had been dead for 2 years?
I think that doctor likely isn't going to be talking to the friends who set her up on that date for at least a week.

@Kassy:  I felt sick, too.  Good thing that a pity frak wasn't an option at that point in the story.  Kimbri was devastated and pissed at the same time.  Until the message came.

Cerberus is into intelligence collecting.  You don't think there were rumors galore flying around about Shep and Alenko no matter how careful they thought they were being?  It didn't have to come from one of the squad.  Any of the crew could have easily noticed.  And how is it that Kaidan's picture is on the desk already when Shepard first walks in.  Cerberus knows.  I don't think they needed Kaidan's letter to find out.  But I certainly don't like the thought that little miss pissy-spandex-pants riffled through it before passing it along--and Chambers, too.
Ugh.  I wondered if Shep not sending any replies to anything had something to do with not trusting Cerberus/Miranda/Kelly.

[Jade5233]

JaerWolfe wrote...

I cheated.
I couldn't help myself. There was an initial attraction...that old thrum of excitement, the thrill of something new that could possibly lead to a long lasting, meaningful relationship. I just...had to. I didn't want to hurt the one I love, but...there was temptation saying 'come taste me, you'll like'. Is it so very wrong to want to have a relationship with more than one?
I love the steady, easy companionship I have with my old love, I really do, but there is something so powerful, so...so...pulsing about my new love.
Please don't judge me.
I hope my Widow will some day forgive me and we can still be friends.

With whom?

Don't forget that Uldina/Anderson isn't clean in this business either.  They knew that Shepard would want to see Kaidan (even if just from close friendship).  They are trying to trap Cerberus.  Then they find out the Shep is with Cerberus.  They don't exactly give him any intel or anything do they?  Nope.  And TIM just happens to get info that Kaidan is on Horizon?  You don't think it possible that Alliance command leaked that intel?  They left him out there like a worm on a hook.

Modifié par Jade5233, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:42 .

[Sialater]

"Did you see us argue?"



"Well, no..."



"Then it's a trap!"

[UrbanPhoenix]

Shavon wrote...

I blame Joker, too!

Seriously, I read here mostly, so sorry to just barge in with an opinion, again, lol!

I'm sorry I have to disagree. I can't blame Joker. He's a man that could hardly stand up. The only thing he is really good at is piloting. So after everything he's been through with the Normandy, I can understand why he tried to stay her. I'd do the same. 

[Kassy B]

Sialater wrote...

"Did you see us argue?"

"Well, no..."

"Then it's a trap!"

Lol @ Serenity reference. 

Anyhoo, yes, I'm sure Cerberus knew about Shepard/Kaidan.  That would certainly explain the picture in Shep's room.  Although I've written (and read different ff's) of how the picture gets there, it's still a mystery in game.

[Nightodie]

JaerWolfe wrote...

I cheated.
I couldn't help myself. There was an initial attraction...that old thrum of excitement, the thrill of something new that could possibly lead to a long lasting, meaningful relationship. I just...had to. I didn't want to hurt the one I love, but...there was temptation saying 'come taste me, you'll like'. Is it so very wrong to want to have a relationship with more than one?
I love the steady, easy companionship I have with my old love, I really do, but there is something so powerful, so...so...pulsing about my new love.
Please don't judge me.
I hope my Widow will some day forgive me and we can still be friends.

I don't know Jaer, you cheated on your widow...with a man... I don't think that widow will be able to overlook that...

I mean a man... really ... what were you thinking....

[sesheta255]

@Jaer - how could you. I'm shocked, you shallow harlot you, lmao

@Shavon - feel free to barge in with an opinion, lol. the good thing about this thread is that people can have differing opinions and it doesn't turn nasty. a lot of the opinions aired here are things that I hadn't thought of so it gets the old brain going anyway, lol

@Kassy - yeah I wondered who the hell put the picture in shep's cabin.  I had Joker as the culprit in one of my non random stupidity fics

Modifié par sesheta255, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:49 .

[jillyfae]

Sialater wrote...

"Did you see us argue?"

"Well, no..."

"Then it's a trap!"

<3 You win.  I don't know what you win, but you totally win.

@RPGMom:  Why thank you.  (And @Jade too, since you mentioned the
tackle.  )

@Jaer:  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

[syllogi]

JaerWolfe wrote...

I cheated.
I couldn't help myself. There was an initial attraction...that old thrum of excitement, the thrill of something new that could possibly lead to a long lasting, meaningful relationship. I just...had to. I didn't want to hurt the one I love, but...there was temptation saying 'come taste me, you'll like'. Is it so very wrong to want to have a relationship with more than one?
I love the steady, easy companionship I have with my old love, I really do, but there is something so powerful, so...so...pulsing about my new love.
Please don't judge me.
I hope my Widow will some day forgive me and we can still be friends.

Let me guess, the sexy, sexy Incisor?  I can see the allure.

[Sialater]

jillyfae wrote...

Sialater wrote...

"Did you see us argue?"

"Well, no..."

"Then it's a trap!"

<3 You win.  I don't know what you win, but you totally win.

@RPGMom:  Why thank you.  (And @Jade too, since you mentioned the
tackle.  )

@Jaer:  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

YAY!  I win!  


Shiny.

Modifié par Sialater, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:58 .

[jillyfae]

and on that congratulatory note, I'm going to watch the end of the Philadelphia Story and get some sleep. see y'all later.

[JaerWolfe]

TeenZombie wrote...

JaerWolfe wrote...

I cheated.
I couldn't help myself. There was an initial attraction...that old thrum of excitement, the thrill of something new that could possibly lead to a long lasting, meaningful relationship. I just...had to. I didn't want to hurt the one I love, but...there was temptation saying 'come taste me, you'll like'. Is it so very wrong to want to have a relationship with more than one?
I love the steady, easy companionship I have with my old love, I really do, but there is something so powerful, so...so...pulsing about my new love.
Please don't judge me.
I hope my Widow will some day forgive me and we can still be friends.

Let me guess, the sexy, sexy Incisor?  I can see the allure.

Yep, the M-29 Incisor sniper rifle. I'm conflicted because I love the slow and steady of the Widow but the boom factor of the Incisor is sweet, too.
Love the new Kestrel armor, too. I have a utility belt!! Love how it rides on the hips, too. The chest plate I like because it actually looks like it's supporting and protecting the girls rather than defining them as a possible distraction for teammates and enemies.
Never cheated on Kaidan. Would never. Even to get my romance achievement...which I did...I started my one and only clean ME2 game with no ME1 presave. I hate all the default canon so I'm never going that route again. Not that I'll need to.

[chem light]

Sialater wrote...

"Did you see us argue?"

"Well, no..."

"Then it's a trap!"

Firefly quote FTW

[Nightodie]

JaerWolfe wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

JaerWolfe wrote...

I cheated.
I couldn't help myself. There was an initial attraction...that old thrum of excitement, the thrill of something new that could possibly lead to a long lasting, meaningful relationship. I just...had to. I didn't want to hurt the one I love, but...there was temptation saying 'come taste me, you'll like'. Is it so very wrong to want to have a relationship with more than one?
I love the steady, easy companionship I have with my old love, I really do, but there is something so powerful, so...so...pulsing about my new love.
Please don't judge me.
I hope my Widow will some day forgive me and we can still be friends.

Let me guess, the sexy, sexy Incisor?  I can see the allure.

Yep, the M-29 Incisor sniper rifle. I'm conflicted because I love the slow and steady of the Widow but the boom factor of the Incisor is sweet, too.
Love the new Kestrel armor, too. I have a utility belt!! Love how it rides on the hips, too. The chest plate I like because it actually looks like it's supporting and protecting the girls rather than defining them as a possible distraction for teammates and enemies.
Never cheated on Kaidan. Would never. Even to get my romance achievement...which I did...I started my one and only clean ME2 game with no ME1 presave. I hate all the default canon so I'm never going that route again. Not that I'll need to.

Okay you got me, on the other hand, my achievement is still dark so....

[Jade5233]

Oh! on a weapon. LOL.

You know, I like the Blood Dragon Armor a lot. I just wish that for the cinematic scenes they would take the helmet off so you can see Shepard's face like they do in Dragon Age. But that armor rocks!



Well, night all! Good conversations, today.

[SilverRose208]

Hey KAST!

I just wanted to drop in from the Ash thread and say that I wanted to beat Sheploo with anything I could get my hands on after Horizon. I was literally screaming at him! I 100% blame Shepard for how things went. Ash/Kaidan are so emotional and heartfelt ... and then Shepard's just a block of wood. I think he/she is disgustingly OOC in that encounter - at least in terms of how I view the relationship - but I understand why BioWare did it ... and doesn't make me hate it any less, though, lol.

Also, to JillyFae - I don't think I've ever been around at the same time that you are (hope you still are!), but thanks for your review on one of my FFN stories. I really appreciate it! I love reading the stuff that you guys write - I've become a true sucker for Shenko fics thanks to lurking this thread and visiting the links in Night's signature.

Also, thanks for all the bumps to the Ash thread. We do really, really appreciate it. Things have been weird since the Wooing, and whenever you guys come and give pics and support, it makes everyone smile.