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[chem light]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

The only people who are lawful good are Paladins. I played one who fell in love with an elf servant, and so fell into Neutral Good and lost my best talents. Hated that GM.

Has anyone ever just considered threatening the GM in real life to get what they want?

[Nightodie]

Good Evening All the Night Crew is a bit early tonight.

Welcome Poison... there are a bunch of links down below in my sig for newbies .. The Fan Fic's which are wonderful these are mostly our Authors that write about Kaidan, and our Artists that are awesome!!!

Ref: the Suicide mission... To me it doesn't matter if Kaidan knows before had that it is a suicide mission - once it is known that the Normandy has gone throught the Omega 4 relay it is known then that it is a suicide mission... Remember no ship has ever returned and at that point Kaidan has now way of knowing about the IFF even if there is a spy on the Normandy- because even the Normandy had no way of knowing if they could get back safely - It was all conjecture.

The minute Kaidan and for that matter Anderson and the Council hear that the Normandy has gone through the relay then know that the chances of survival are slim. No ship has ever returned... none. IMHO of course.

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Have a Great continuation of whatever everyone.... yeah strange mood tonight... I know...

Carry On!!!

Modifié par Nightodie, 17 juillet 2010 - 02:48 .

[Giggles_Manically]

chem light wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

The only people who are lawful good are Paladins. I played one who fell in love with an elf servant, and so fell into Neutral Good and lost my best talents. Hated that GM.

Has anyone ever just considered threatening the GM in real life to get what they want?

I didnt have to he got replaced by someone with experience since D&D was created. Awsome guy ran a drunken dwarf engineer named Brafk. Awsome times I wish I hadent moved but oh well.\\

[FireEye]

Joisan wrote...

I like it better than the new system in 4th edition, but don't even get me started on D&D 4th edition.

... I kinda want to know, but I also really don't want to know. 

So I'll post this instead:

[sapphyreelf]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

The only people who are lawful good are Paladins. I played one who fell in love with an elf servant, and so fell into Neutral Good and lost my best talents. Hated that GM.

Depending on the world you are playing in, a Paladin could follow whichever alignment is befitting his god. The more "generic" D&D keeps that Paladins have to be Lawful Good though.

Also, more than just Paladins are Lawful Good. I've played a Fighter that ended up getting shifted from Chaotic Good to Lawful Good. And. unless your Paladin had taken specific vows to be celibate or abstain from falling in love, that shouldn't have been a reason to justify a severe shift in alignment. At best, it should have just required an Atonement.

*clears her throat and squelches her inner D&D nerd*

And I agree. Kaidan would be NG.

[sapphyreelf]

FireEye wrote...

Joisan wrote...

I like it better than the new system in 4th edition, but don't even get me started on D&D 4th edition.

... I kinda want to know, but I also really don't want to know. 

So I'll post this instead:

4th Edition really shines if you have a group that is willing to (a) take the time to learn to play it and ( still roleplay within the new mechanics.

It's not bad, but it's different. We've had a very enjoyable game going on for over a year. But like any game, it really depends on the group. (And it helped that we learned the new system as we went along making it easier to work together as a group in character.)

[chem light]

Man, I need some local nerds. I wants to learn D&D.

[FireEye]

Kaidan would be Neutral Good.  Ashley would be Chaotic Good.  Garrus would be Chaotic Good.  Wrex would be True Neutral or Chaotic Neutral (probably True Neutral, since he keeps his word).  Tali would be... uh... kinda... Lawful Neutral, among the quarians at least?  Liara would be True Neutral or Neutral Good.

Joker would be Chaotic Good.  Chakwas would be Neutral Good.  Pressly would be Lawful Good and take a shift to Neutral Good at the last minute.  Anderson would be Neutral Good.  Udina would be Lawful... Neutral?  Good?  Evil?  ...Jenkins would be... Chaotic Neutral?


... is this really how you spell Neutral?  It looks... wrong. 

Modifié par FireEye, 17 juillet 2010 - 02:55 .

[Giggles_Manically]

sapphyreelf wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

The only people who are lawful good are Paladins. I played one who fell in love with an elf servant, and so fell into Neutral Good and lost my best talents. Hated that GM.

Depending on the world you are playing in, a Paladin could follow whichever alignment is befitting his god. The more "generic" D&D keeps that Paladins have to be Lawful Good though.

Also, more than just Paladins are Lawful Good. I've played a Fighter that ended up getting shifted from Chaotic Good to Lawful Good. And. unless your Paladin had taken specific vows to be celibate or abstain from falling in love, that shouldn't have been a reason to justify a severe shift in alignment. At best, it should have just required an Atonement.

*clears her throat and squelches her inner D&D nerd*

And I agree. Kaidan would be NG.

Sadly my Paladin tossed out his codebook after his "Brothers" killed villagers for following an older god who required very small amount of  bloodlettings for harvest time( like a pinprick) but since no one backed down I killed three others to try and stop them.

Besides the vagrant powers where different but awsome. I miss that campaign since acting as a group Jimeny Cricket as I got called was fun.

[sagefic]

 off topic: hard core makes me feel like an idiot some days. i have a lot of near death moments like this one:



i HATE that corridor on korlus. no freakin cover.

on topic: i just checked my fraps movie of anderson and no where does shep say she's going through the relay at all, nor does it come up. so far as i can tell, if you pick the "paragon" option, she simply says there are collector attacks and she thinks they're connected to the reapers, and she is with cerberus to investigate. if you pick the middle option, she gets distracted by arguing about saren and soverign. i think the rengade is her defending cerberus. so it seems to me that she never gets into the suicide mission nature with it, becuase it neatly steps around her mission altogether and gets off on a tangent about if the reapers are real or not.

so, going back to the earlier discussion, it's possible anderson doesn't know that investigate means go through the omega 4 relay and taken on on their own turf. even if he does, i highly doubt he tells kaidan. anyhow, my take is that kaidan, anderson, all of them, don't realize what she's about to do. why she doesn't tell them? dialog magic? or pride? or worry for them worrying? not sure.

Modifié par sagequeen, 17 juillet 2010 - 02:58 .

[Jean]

www.platformnation.com/2010/07/16/five-things-mass-effect-2/

oh look, first time I heard him called a crybaby.

[chem light]

Udina is lawful evil. He follows rules for his own gain, not the benefit of humanity as he should given his position and authority. Tali isn't neccesarily lawful. She wants you to hide the truth from her own tribunal in defense of her father's memory. That's a pretty strong chaotic good act methinks.



Oh I like this alignment game.

[fortunesque]

Even if Anderson knew what Shepard was going to do, I doubt he'd tell the VS. He didn't tell them or Shepard that he'd talked to either one, so obviously he wants to keep the VS to himself.

[sapphyreelf]

@Sage: Is it sad that I'm trying to peer through the blood in the screenshot to figure out where you are at? LOL

[fortunesque]

chem light wrote...

Udina is lawful evil. He follows rules for his own gain, not the benefit of humanity as he should given his position and authority. Tali isn't neccesarily lawful. She wants you to hide the truth from her own tribunal in defense of her father's memory. That's a pretty strong chaotic good act methinks.

Oh I like this alignment game.

I took an alignment quiz as Faith Shepard and I found that she's lawful evil... 

[FireEye]

sagequeen wrote...
why she doesn't tell them? dialog magic? or pride? or worry for them worrying? not sure.

My Shepard didn't want them to know.  She didn't want to contact them in the first place, she just wanted to disappear after the Collectors were dealt with (which was the last mission the Alliance gave to her). 

[sagefic]

sapphyreelf wrote...

@Sage: Is it sad that I'm trying to peer through the blood in the screenshot to figure out where you are at? LOL

lol, not at all. it's that corridor on korlus that the week old krogan opens for you. as you come down the pipe, there are two mercs with shields and there is NO cover.

in game, i'm actually at....horizons.

starting playing now. i will likely come out crying and in need of fanfiction. 

[Collider]

Let's see...

Kaidan - Lawful Good (Neutral Good if made "Renegade")
Ashley - Neutral Good (Lawful Good if made "Paragon," Chaotic if "Renegade")
Garrus - Chaotic Good
Wrex - Chaotic Neutral
Tali - Neutral Good
Liara - Lawful Good (??? in ME2)

Jacob - Neutral/Chaotic Good
Miranda - Lawful Neutral
Mordin - Chaotic Good
Jack - Chaotic Evil
Grunt - Chaotic Neutral
Samara - Lawful Neutral
Thane - Chaotic Good
Legion - True Neutral (robot)
Zaeed - Chaotic Neutral
Kasumi - Chaotic Neutral

Udina - Lawful Neutral
Anderson - Neutral Good

Just my two cents.

Modifié par Collider, 17 juillet 2010 - 03:09 .

[FireEye]

chem light wrote...

Udina is lawful evil. He follows rules for his own gain, not the benefit of humanity as he should given his position and authority. Tali isn't neccesarily lawful. She wants you to hide the truth from her own tribunal in defense of her father's memory. That's a pretty strong chaotic good act methinks.

Oh I like this alignment game.

True on Tali.

And... uh... yeah, it's fun applying game mechanics to different mediums. 

[chem light]

I still maintain Kaidan is Neutral good, otherwise he would have respected Shepard's need to steal the Normandy but remained behind.



And Udina=evil. I don't care how much make up you put on him. EViillll.. Mostly, because I was really mad that I felt sorry for him at the beginning of ME1 and then he stabbed me in the back.

[Giggles_Manically]

Anderson super punching him was epic though.

[Collider]

I still maintain Kaidan is Neutral good, otherwise he would have respected Shepard's need to steal the Normandy but remained behind.

Good point.

And Udina=evil. I don't care how much make up you put on him. EViillll.. Mostly, because I was really mad that I felt sorry for him at the beginning of ME1 and then he stabbed me in the back.

They should make Udina more of a sympathetic character in ME3. Right now he's kind of a jerk in most ways.

[Nightodie]

fortunesque wrote...

Even if Anderson knew what Shepard was going to do, I doubt he'd tell the VS. He didn't tell them or Shepard that he'd talked to either one, so obviously he wants to keep the VS to himself.

Well the VS is lovable so....

Pet?

[FireEye]

chem light wrote...
And Udina=evil. I don't care how much make up you put on him. EViillll.. Mostly, because I was really mad that I felt sorry for him at the beginning of ME1 and then he stabbed me in the back.

His evil even made Kaidan make the angry face.

[fortunesque]

Nightodie wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Even if Anderson knew what Shepard was going to do, I doubt he'd tell the VS. He didn't tell them or Shepard that he'd talked to either one, so obviously he wants to keep the VS to himself.

Well the VS is lovable so....

Pet?

No, Shepard. I don't think you understand...