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Jenova65 wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Has anyone here seen this interview yet? The first 2 answers I really don't like........that's not cool BW :-/

And there is also this

OT: If Kaidan doesn't make an appearance in the Liara DLC (likely), do you think he'll find out that you've dealt with the Shadow Broker and send you an (answerable!) E-Mail (think Alpha Protocol)?

Bleurgh, I blame EA for that..................... b*******! 

I doubt there will be anything on Kaidan in it, ffs, Kasumi doesn't even know about the VS and she seems to know everything....<_<


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I'm not expecting to see Kaidan in the DLC, if he is I'll be pleasantly surprised but I've learned the hard way not to get my hopes up.

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Systemlord Baal wrote...
OT: If Kaidan doesn't make an appearance in the Liara DLC (likely), do you think he'll find out that you've dealt with the Shadow Broker and send you an (answerable!) E-Mail (think Alpha Protocol)?


Even an unanswerable email would be great, but we most likely won't get that much.

I will be playing the Liara DLC with a tiny spark of hope that there is some mention of the Virmire Survivor, but I know rationally that it's a very slim chance.

As for the Thane discussion, I agree with the thought that romancing a man who may die when you've just gotten out of a relationship with another guy is tacky.  So personally, unless I had a single character set aside, I wouldn't attempt it.  I also *hate* the idea that Bioware created a character who abandoned his wife and child, and then abandoned his child AGAIN when his wife died, and they say that they made him for the ladies.  I can understand the idea of a character who has made lots of mistakes, and needs to atone, but leaving your kid behind isn't something I can get past.  Maybe I'm too sensitive as a mom...

Anyway, no more analyzing other LIs, I don't want to offend anyone...

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Shenzi wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Has anyone here seen this interview yet? The first 2 answers I really don't like........that's not cool BW :-/

And there is also this

OT: If Kaidan doesn't make an appearance in the Liara DLC (likely), do you think he'll find out that you've dealt with the Shadow Broker and send you an (answerable!) E-Mail (think Alpha Protocol)?

Bleurgh, I blame EA for that..................... b*******! 

I doubt there will be anything on Kaidan in it, ffs, Kasumi doesn't even know about the VS and she seems to know everything....<_<


Morning.  Posted Image 

I'm not expecting to see Kaidan in the DLC, if he is I'll be pleasantly surprised but I've learned the hard way not to get my hopes up.

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That is a nice edit :wub: Morning, Shen! :D

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Good afternoon everyone :)

I have just arrived at home from work and that means for me: it´s weekend ;)


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Hey I would even be happy if Liara was still interested & asked about Kaidan! Something!

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Hello Aslana. I'm at home, too since a few minutes ago, so it's weekend for me, too - yay ^^

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Systemlord Baal wrote...

Hello Aslana. I'm at home, too since a few minutes ago, so it's weekend for me, too - yay ^^


And you know what´s best... my husband and the girls are gone camping at the North-Sea (father/daughters time)... That means I have a lot of time to lurk in here, finaly move on in ME1 and can go on with writing or drawing... :) I bet Kaidan will keep me busy...lol...

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That's cool, I don't have anything keeping me from the forums/ME, too. I'm on a new ME1 run as I'm capturing footage for my vid. The intro is just about finished, now I just need more material to work with xD

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JaerWolfe wrote...

I didn't like the whole Liara Kaidan Shep thing...I don't speak to Liara at all in ME1 for fear I'll accidentally trigger it again. I wouldn't like a Thane, Kaidan, Shepard triangle, either. Can't see Kaidan going for it at all.


I go to Therum last, when I'm in an 'avoiding asari' sort of mood.  Poor Liara... thinks she's hallucinating, then gets the entire plot of the game dumped on her, and you only get the 'embrace eternity' line with her once.

(Not to be mean to the Liara fans, I normally think she's adorable, but she gets a bit repetitive in the post-mission briefings if you pick her up first.)

My Liara-romancing Shep was highly traumatized by being ignored on Illium too, so I hope the Shadow Broker DLC is good.

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I just knew that "Lair of the Shadow Broker" won't be available in Poland and few other European countries. YAY US!







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That really suxx and what's this about "technical difficulties" - WTF?

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Systemlord Baal wrote...

That really suxx and what's this about "technical difficulties" - WTF?


My guess is that localisation isn't profitable for EA or we're thrid world counties and nobody cares.
Well I wouldn't mind if we were assured it will be compatibile with our version. But while buying the game were not even warned we won't be able to play in English (INT) version without tinkering in few game files (I play with English dub.+Polish sub.). There is no in-game option to change between language.

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In Germany there only the PC version had the option to change the language (before the installation). XBox version was German only.

If it's "just" a localisation problem, I'd say they'll at least release the English version of it if possible.

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See this is the attitude I just don't get.  I shouldn't be penalised by having Kaidan non existant in ME2 just to satisfy the petty jealousy of other people (because someone might actually get more screen time in game),  who either a) chose not to romance Kaidan and miss out on how awesome he is for whatever reason, or B) were so shallow and fickle that they dropped their pants for the first person who looked at them because Kaidan had the audacity to raise his voice and stick to his principles rather than follow Shepard blindly.

I'd also like to point out that this is actually the Kaidan thread and whilst we do discuss other LI's in comparison to Kaidan, I think that if you want to tell everyone how great you think a particular LI is (other than Kaidan), then you should take it to the appropriate thread.
I am not trying to point the finger at anyone or accuse the person I quoted of this.  I am merely pointing something out.  I am afraid I am not as elequant or diplomatic in my way of speaking/thinking as other people.


Yes, as I've said, Kaidan is awesome and one of the rougher romances. You're not getting punished, you're being tested. Plot wise, this is how Bioware feels the story should go with the ME1 LI right now. Perhaps I should have worded what I said better but please don't take it as a petty, jealousy type thing. I don't think too many people would have thrown a jealousy fit if Kaidan, Ashley, or Liara had rejoined the group. I know I wouldn't have cared. They are pre-existing characters after all and ME2 LI are overall secodary except for Tali and Garrus. I don't see many people getting mad about Tali and Garrus having existed since the first game, but they were minor characters in the first. I wouldn't have cared either way and was surprised at the time of my first playing that Kaidan wasn't joining.

This thread was discussing and comparing other romances and a person in particular I felt misunderstood part of the dialogue with Thane. I just wanted to clarify that Shepard doesn't respond like she's going to rape Thane, sorry. I never said he was better than Kaidan, I'm not here to promote Thane. I was actually avoiding saying anything about the romance despite several commits against him, but most of those comments were about appearance and simply not liking the romance. People have the right to see Thane as the creature from the black lagoon with a fast romance. I did say I prefered him for my Shepard. Kaidan just doesn't work right for the personality in my head I have for Shepard. Nothing more.

I still love Kaidan. I do believe this isn't a Kaidan only as a love interest thread right? Can't Kaidan be a buddy? Or am I wrong. Should I get out now before I'm pummuled for wanting to keep him in the friend zone. I just want to get other perspectives on his personality is all.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 23 juillet 2010 - 02:00 .


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There are plenty of people on the thread who like Kaidan as a pal. Most of them are guys, but I have at least one Shepard I'm trying to keep him in the friendzone for.

Please don't think this is an LI only thread.

Modifié par Sialater, 23 juillet 2010 - 02:08 .


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@ Lucky Thirteen - You are not wrong as Baal and Nick can tell you we accept all Kaidan interests ... you are welcome here. Friend or LI



I like Thane as a squadmate and friend.. I don't like him as a LI - and yes I am the It's a lizard person...But as you said it's a personal choice.



That said all my Shepards stay loyal to Kaidan... but I think that my Shepards would look at Thane as a very good friend.

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@Lucky Thirteen:

I thought you made a great point regarding Thane's romance, and the way they're developing a longer story-arc for the ME1 LI's. And yes, this is supposed to be a Kaidan thread for all players, not just the romance. (And I try not to bash the other characters, but I guess frustration levels are high, with no new info incoming until ME3, and the thread does get a bit negative, sorry about that. Well, except for complaining about Jacob's romance, cause no one can figure out what BioWare was trying to do with that one. ^_~)

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My main Shepard's kaidan's friend. there's (understandably) a lot of a LI talk here, but we still talk about him outside of romance too.

Modifié par Collider, 23 juillet 2010 - 02:12 .


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I have no idea who made this one, it just cracks me up (and I'm one of the few who romanced him)



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Okay, Kaidan was exposed to eezo in utero, that's how he got his biotics. Do all humans react to the exposure? I know there can be medical difficulties regarding the exposure, like terminal cancer, probably other nasty bits. Everything I've read in the Wiki so far says that humans can only be biotics if they're exposed in utero, but it says nothing about what the exposure does to the mother.

Would Kaidan's mother have had any long/short term effects from the exposure?

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I'd like 2 learn about Kaidan's family, like Ash.

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JaerWolfe wrote...

Okay, Kaidan was exposed to eezo in utero, that's how he got his biotics. Do all humans react to the exposure? I know there can be medical difficulties regarding the exposure, like terminal cancer, probably other nasty bits. Everything I've read in the Wiki so far says that humans can only be biotics if they're exposed in utero, but it says nothing about what the exposure does to the mother.
Would Kaidan's mother have had any long/short term effects from the exposure?



Unfortunately, it's never said.   Maybe they're sterile afterwards?

#49748
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@TZ: Concerning Thane leaving his child behind - seeing that his wife got killed because of him (basically) I can understand it. Keeping his child at a distance might be his way to keep him safe, or at least trying to. Additionally, having those flashbacks around his son, about assassinations might not be very supportive to Thane's plan to keep him as far away from his footsteps as possible (not that it worked as we all know).

Is it the best way, maybe not, but I can understand his motives - or at least the way I interpret him.



Oh and one thing that came to my mind - I know it is childish, but some part of me would love to cross paths with Rhana (once Shepard and Kaidan are back together) and parade (in a very subtle way) that lovely specimen of a man in front of her, telling her without words 'And you could have had this... he's mine now!'

I know Rhana shouldn't be much of an issue anymore, but I just can't forgive her for hurting Kaidan.... that's all and my randomness just turns off and I'll try to go and drown myself in coffee.


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I've come across a couple fics that assumed sterility, or other fertility complications. (Not that necessarily makes much sense, as lots of things are bad for babies and don't do much to their moms, but... *shrugs*)



I have problems with this theory because Kaidan seems so much like a big brother personality wise. Not completely sure why he strikes me that way, but he does. (And I think I vaguely recall chem agreeing w/me, so at least we're not alone?)

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Rana wasn't actually in a relationship with him, though. IIRC.